https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/uighurs-seek-genocide-charges-against-beijing-cq6hdrjcc
I don't think it's that they're too afraid, more like they couldn't give a feck in the first place.
This is my worry too. Sadly I just don’t see what can be done other than some international ‘pressure’.
Would that deal involve one of his offspring taking a stake in some Chinese real estate project?
Or even the ongoing crapshoot in Yemen.
The Uighurs are a Muslim Turkic tribe. There's plenty of countries with Turkic tribe and Muslim majorities. Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan...
A trade deal, but yeah we’re not exactly trying to avoid another Cold War when we are surrounding them with new missile installations.
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Arabs don't give a flying feck about non-arab muslims. The only non-arab muslim country that can actually help them is pakistan and they're actively deporting captured uighurs to china because china happens to be an ally. So in all probability the uighurs are screwed.
This seems to cover it, which is a scary situation.
We havn't even been able to stop a country like North Korea from comitting genocide, enslaving and terrorizing their own citizens.
Why though? Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan also share a border with China and are also closer in a tribal/ethnic sense to the Uighurs than the Desi people of Pakistan. If anyone should care more to offer these people safe haven, it's surely them?
Not sure what could have actually stopped any of this except an all-out war, including large-scale loss of life among those meant to be liberated? When I comment on an obvious lack of international interest in inner-state repressions of that kind, it's a critical observation, but not a call for that kind of interest.
It's hard to do so when their regime is offered legitimacy and protection from the behemoth that is China, because of some tenuous Communist ties but mostly for fear of a liberated N.Korea falling under a Western sphere of influence like the South.
Inclined to agree.
When I meant "we", I simply meant democratic nations with financial and military muscle. I know that one of the reasons we havn't made an intervention is precisely because it would cause a war where everything could go wrong.
I think the Turks are suffiently fatigued from hosting refugees and migrants. Also being blacklisted by China would go against their economic interests.
How many fronts can Erdogan open? Involvement in Syria and Libya in opposition to Russian interests . In the EU's bad books for wielding Syrian refugees as a political weapon. In confrontation with the US and Trump over weapons acquisitions and Syrian involvement leading to sanctions and an unstable Turkish Lira. Rivalry and tension with Israel-Cyprus-Greece over their proposed Mediterranean gas pipeline.
I know, but that's the "we" I don't agree with. It's just the power bloc I happen to live in, and I don't identify with it or think it actually works that way.
How can they? They're far away, and don't have neither political, economical or military way of projecting their power.
Thought a while whether to answer or not tbh, but the obvious reply for me is:
They're not Muslim because of reliance on other Muslim majority nations. They're Muslim by choice.
The issue is world powers allowed acts of terrorism to morph into human rights violations in the region over decades and some were committing such acts themselves.
What new state though, realistically, who will provide the resources to absorb ~12 million people with a distinct ethnic identity? China has long employed lebensraum-style expansion policies...and wouldn't sanction a mass-migration project or entertain the possibility of ceding even a square inch of valuable land in Xianjing for the creation East Turkestan Republic V2.0 (especially considering that could also have a domino effect in term of galvanizing the Tibetian or Inner Mongolian separatist movements that have plateaued or progressively cooled off). Neighboring Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan would also swiftly reject the idea of a new state to protect their own interests/sovereignty, not least out of fear of devastating retribution from a displeased China. Unfortunately for the Uighurs, they have no genuine allies who can intervene or project any significant form of military/economic influence on the Chinese behemoth, and are going to be pigeon-holed or used as cheap political pawns for the foreseeable future — while having no recourse and bearing the brunt of sinicization.
Yes. And they can become non-muslims by choice also. If its death or conversion the option to choose is conversion, even Islam says so provided in your heart you never converted.
Uighurs should definitely convert out of Islam if it serves their self interests. They're a turkic muslim culture and there are enough Muslims to carry forward their culture.
