And you expect us to see success with Ole for shorter amount of period?
United’s next manager
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Rather Marco Rose TBH
Pochettino looks like he needs a break. I expect he'll take the rest of the season off and look to come back refreshed next year, possibly in Madrid.
This is a natural alignment now - Poch as manager with Ole taking the DOF role. Keeps Ed happy as he won't have a DOF who will upset him and Ole to be fair has made a good start with his signings.
He's not going anywhere. He's here for the season. We better get used to it.
Poch's sacking will only raise more questions about his coaching than answers
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Let's face it, with his severance package why should he rush into a job?
I think this will be the best move for him. I can see him ending up at RM.
Let's face it, with his severance package why should he rush into a job?
Speaking on his appointment, Jose said: “I am excited to be joining a Club with such a great heritage and such passionate supporters.
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GTFOH Jose
... He pissed on our "heritage", apparently all it was, was regularly getting knocked out of the CL. Clown
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GTFOH Jose
... He pissed on our "heritage", apparently all it was, was regularly getting knocked out of the CL. ClownYou are the one who is thinking short term.
We have just started a total makeover with a new manager. In order to get new players Ole had to get rid of a lot of old players, without getting the same amount of players back in. He had to rely on young academy players. That will guarantee you inconsistent results, taking us through some ruff waters.
Thankfully Ole had the guts and backbone to go thru with it, doing the tuff and verry little gratefull job.
And now, after less than a year and only 3 players transferred in, some "fans" start jumping ship.
That is thinking short term ; )
People were asking what's the alternative when you sack Ole, as one of the main defense points of not sacking him - well there you are - you have a good manager and a coach, with PL experience and playing the way United fans would like.
You are ready to walk on it and continue with the rookie manager at helm which inevitable will fail at some point?
If we have any serious ambition we need to appoint Poch now. Klopp was appointed this time of year iirc
The season is pretty much written off in the league. Give him time to impose his style of play. We will hopefully see better football in the back end of the season and may even win the Europa League. It also allows him time to identify what our major weaknesses are and allow us to identify targets to rectify this. We will then be in a much stronger position for next season.
As opposed to missing out on him or waiting until the summer and trying to do all of the above in a preseason
We failed to act when Klopp was available, let's hope we don't make the same mistake again
The season is pretty much written off in the league. Give him time to impose his style of play. We will hopefully see better football in the back end of the season and may even win the Europa League. It also allows him time to identify what our major weaknesses are and allow us to identify targets to rectify this. We will then be in a much stronger position for next season.
As opposed to missing out on him or waiting until the summer and trying to do all of the above in a preseason
We failed to act when Klopp was available, let's hope we don't make the same mistake again
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50480860
"We were extremely reluctant to make this change. It is not a decision the board has taken lightly, nor in haste," said Spurs chairman Daniel Levy.
"Regrettably domestic results at the end of last season and beginning of this season have been extremely disappointing.
"It falls on the board to make the difficult decisions - this one made more so given the many memorable moments we have had with Mauricio and his coaching staff - but we do so in the club's best interests."
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I wonder how that compares with let say Ole's
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I’m cynical to the point where i don’t see success under the present ownership.
I’m not convinced by Poch, I don’t see where he could take us. Spurs didn’t have the same expectation but he did brilliantly. We will be under so much scrutiny, I’m not sure he could cope.
I’m more in Marco Roses camp than Poch but no doubt he will have his detractors
Not me but the Utd board.
I’m cynical to the point where i don’t see success under the present ownership.
I’m not convinced by Poch, I don’t see where he could take us. Spurs didn’t have the same expectation but he did brilliantly. We will be under so much scrutiny, I’m not sure he could cope.
I’m more in Marco Roses camp than Poch but no doubt he will have his detractors
Do we need a DOF who unearths EPL proven players?
You are one argumentative sod
Have you seen who currently manages us.The obsession with Poch as Utd's saviour is unbelievable. Smacks of desperation
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I don’t understand how the two compare without looking at the bigger picture. They felt he wasn’t taking them anywhere further and all the noises he made suggested that he wasn’t happy with the squad, the spending etc. He clearly couldn’t motivate the side . The results are just one facet, it was his squad,his tactics etc. With Ole we know he needs to clear out a whole lot of deadwood
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That game against Spurs will be super interesting now. If Ole beats Jose, will Jose meltdown, if Jose beat Ole will the fans turn their fury on Woodward.
Rose and Nagelsmann most likely won't be available until the Summer at least, maybe won't be available after and there is also Bayern in the picture when it comes to an appealing place to be.
We have a real possibility to get a good manager in, being available, without paying a good severance package.
Auto correct.It will go either way, guaranteed
We will be well up to beat them but Jose will set up for counter attacking, it’s his way. Thing is with Kane an Son, he’s better set up than he was st Utd
Agreed. I think Jose will be very dangerous with Spurs' current squad. Hopefully the match will be too early for Jose to fully put his stamp on the team as I think Jose will be successful at spurs, until he falls out with Levy over transfer funds.
For me, we need to be working on drawing up a list of candidates to potentially replace Ole for next season. There's always a slight chance Ole could pull things together, but we have to prepare for the worst. Right now there are two genuinely top managers available in Poch and Allegri. We need to decide if we want either, and start making our initial approaches.
We also need to start reaching out to managers already in jobs but that interest us. I for one would want to be tapping up Marco Rose and his situation.
We also need to start reaching out to managers already in jobs but that interest us. I for one would want to be tapping up Marco Rose and his situation.
Because that will really help right now. If Ole is our manager he needs total support until the day comes where he needs to go. Tapping up other managers now is wrong for everyone. Undermining Ole would be a terrible thing to do.
Well you can compare the two by having a look at the results during the end of last season and the beginning of this season
Would it helps if I also add to it? Ah and I almost forgot ie do we need a DOF to take Giggs advice regarding James?You are one argumentative sod
It will be worse. Posters here continually bash Ole for how we ended last season, so if Poch came in now and kept us limping forward then i can guarantee you most of these same posters would want him gone if he failed to miraculously improve us overnight. Unless you of course hold them to completely different standards and you are a massive hypocrite
Changing the rebuilding philosophy and different playing styles again will only push us back another 3/4 years. keep Ole and let him do the rebuilding Job he has started.
I wonder if Levy was thinking the same thing. Let’s see who’s rebuilding takes place quicker. Ole’s or Jose’s. I guarantee you they finish above us next season if the same managers remain.
How do you guarentee this ?
Poch is wasn’t given 12 months to contribute shite. He earned his years at Spurs which is why it was a hard decision. Half the fan base wouldn’t blink an eye lid if Ole got sacked tomorrow.
Comeback to me in a year or both managers are in-charge. We’ll be where we currently are blaming 3 summer signing transfer window as usual whilst Spurs will look like a solid team.
Jose is a bizarre appointment for Spurs. He failed the rebuilding job badly with us with much more money available so why on earth would they hire him if that is the goal?
Jose will no doubt improve their results in the short term, but considering Joses personality, the financial restraints hes got there and how Levy likes to run the shop i would say there is a cats chance in hell that Jose will "rebuild" them to any extent
Bollocks. First of all some managers have earned their time at a club or even at a new job like Poch. The rest were parachuted to the job due being a former player and having previous stints in Norway and Cardiff.
Of course if a credible manager should have different standard that the one we currently have and is for a reason. Respect and time are earned - not given.
Also according to which standard it is ok United to be on 16 points after 12 games and not call for the manager to being sacked?
I'm not sold on Pochettino as United's next manager. He had years at Spurs and couldn't win one. They never looked like winning the two cup finals they played in under him and they lost an FA Cup semi against United pretty meekly under him too.
I wouldn't bet on it, mate. Some players might not take to Mourinho, and we've seen how this can pan out.
Agree with this.
I hope the board can look at the long term picture and realise that a chance to sign a proven manager doesn't come along often. We should have fired LVG when Klopp was available and now we should be in for Poch.
Agree with this largely.
Pochettino hasn't won anything and has failed at every final hurdle (or before) in doing so. Yes he's done wonders on a small budget but so have other managers and won things. The first time in his 5 year stint at Tottenham he's encountered a divided dressing room and poor results, and he's been completely unable to turn it around, despite a large majority of the players owing him their careers. For me that says a lot about how he fairs when times are difficult and I just don't believe he has the ruthlessness or cutting edge to win league titles.
I'd even go as far to say Rodgers is a better appointment than him. At least he has experienced the expectation of winning and the grind that goes with being top of the league and everyone wanting to beat you. It may only be Scotland but he knows exactly how to keep a team on track and focussed.
It's not a no brainer.
Uprooting the plan YET again isn't the way forward. Picking YET another manager isn't the way forward. Picking one that has never won a thing and doesn't have the mentality to want to win everything is not the way forward.
There are as many question marks over Poch and his ability as there are with Ole.
People point to the whole 'he did wonders with a small budget' but then they did the exact same thing with David Moyes and look how that turned out.