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United Academy Streak - 3883 Consecutive Games

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Very interesting article on espnfc.

Mods may want to sticky this thread and update the counter each matchday. :)

http://www.espnfc.us/club/mancheste...-80-year-streak-for-manchester-united-academy
3,883 games and counting: Rashford continues United academy streak

Marcus Rashford has already followed in the footsteps of Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton, George Best, Ryan Giggs and David Beckham.

But if he is selected by Jose Mourinho to face Tottenham this weekend, it will be a significant milestone for the Manchester United academy that produced them.

A key part of Mourinho's squad at just 19, it is likely Rashford will start at Old Trafford on Saturday. And if he does, it will extend a record the club are particularly proud of beyond 80 years.

Should Mourinho pick Rashford or Jesse Lingard -- or Scott McTominay or Axel Tuanzebe, for that matter -- it will be 3,883 consecutive games that a United manager has selected a youth team graduate in their match-day squad.

It is a run that started on Oct. 30, 1937 -- the 80th anniversary falls on Monday, the day before United face Benfica in the Champions League -- when Tom Manley and Jackie Wassall played in a 1-0 defeat to Fulham.

Rashford, Lingard, McTominay and Tuanzebe are just the latest to pick up the baton.

To put it into context, Everton also have an impressive run of promoting youth team graduates. After United, it is the longest in the Premier League standing at more than 1,000 games over 21 years.

For the round of Premier League matches on the last weekend in August, six teams -- Bournemouth, Burnley, Manchester City, Stoke, Swansea and Watford -- did not include a youth team graduate at all. United beat Leicester 2-0 thanks, in part, to a goal from Rashford.

The record is detailed in Sons of United, a chronicle of United's youth team written by Steve Hobin and Tony Park.

Greater movement of young players between different clubs and countries means there are strict criteria about what constitutes a youth team graduate.

They have to join United before they turn 18, without playing first team football elsewhere, and play for the club's junior teams as part of their development.

It means players such as Lee Sharpe, who played for Torquay before moving to Old Trafford, and Regan Poole, who played first team football for Newport, do not count.

"I use these three criteria as we can hardly claim that we developed the player if they were virtually adults when they joined, had already played first team football somewhere else or went straight into our first team without playing for our academy in some capacity," Park said.

The question, though, is why is it important?

United have the wealth to compete for players with the biggest clubs in the world. It is, after all, easier to spot a Champions League winner at age 25 than at age 15.

After revolutionising the youth setup following his arrival from Aberdeen in 1986, Sir Alex Ferguson won the Champions League in 1999 with four former youth players in his team and another two on the bench.

But Ferguson, and the academy staff at Carrington, will tell you it is about more than just trophies.

"People like Marcus and Jesse, people who know the system, they have to carry the club now," said Nicky Butt, himself a youth team graduate, Champions League winner in 1999 and now head of the academy.

"These players who come in for a lot of money might not know the club or the environment or the area, so it's up to those guys to incorporate them into United and instill those beliefs," Butt added.

"They need to be introducing them to Kath on reception [at Carrington], letting them know how long she's been here at the club.

"They need to recognise the laundry people, the canteen ladies, the chefs, the ground staff and security lads -- they're part of our family and you need to say 'good morning' to them every single day.

"When you come to United, the players are the superstars and the ones everyone wants an autograph from but, when you come into this building, we're all equal. We all have a role and, without one, we don't have a team," Butt said.

The players who have gone before continue to play a key role.

McTominay, who has been training with United since he was five, said after playing in the Carabao Cup win at Swansea on Tuesday: "When you see boys progressing and impressing in the first team, it gives the lads in the academy the motivation to keep pushing forward."

The corridors of the academy building at Carrington are covered with murals of past graduates such as Giggs, Butt and Rashford.

On the noticeboards in the dressing rooms, there is a list of 14 pieces of advice written by Gary Neville.

No.2 is: "Give 100 percent all the time. You have never arrived at Man United so you must maintain a high standard all the time, every day."

No.3 is: "Always remember why you began to play football. You loved it for its own sake and not as a means to get money, fame, girls or cars."

Neville, a Youth Cup winner, made 602 first team appearances to sit fifth on United's all-time list. The four above -- Bill Foulkes, Paul Scholes, Charlton and Giggs -- were all part of the same production line.

It's the same one Mourinho will benefit from when he picks his team to play Tottenham this weekend.

The same one United hope the manager, whoever it is, can still turn to in another 80 years' time.

Rob is ESPN FC's Manchester United correspondent. Follow him on Twitter @RobDawsonESPN.
 

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I'll read that article tomorrow, busy, anyone who has more time on their hands able to find out who is behind us in that record?
 

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It seemed under threat under Van Gaal at one point. Remember myself starting a thread about it IIRC when only Amos or Johnstone on the bench saved it at one point.

Seems safer now with Rashford and us buying back Pogba and also Lingard being part of the first team regularly.
 

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I'll read that article tomorrow, busy, anyone who has more time on their hands able to find out who is behind us in that record?
Everyone else.
 

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Wonder how long we will keep it up for. Very impressive though, it's much harder to produce first team players for the Academy now given the state of the English players coming through. Hopefully Tunzuabe and TFM (if he counts) make it here, Pereira possibly too. After that, Angel Gomes barring injury and attitude should definitely have a good chance of making it here, he's got unreal ability, great decision making and good physical attributes such as pace and agility. Quite small though.
 

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This is very impressive and fantastic to see. Long may it continue.

It does bring a question though: if this streak covers 80 years, why did we not have any local lads playing in the side in the 1930s? You'd have thought local talent is all they had back then.

EDIT: This is why...

Manchester United’s world-renowned youth system was first established in the early 1930’s with the formation of the Manchester United Junior Athletic Club (MUJACs). The aim of the organisation was to identify, recruit and develop young local footballers with a view to them eventually progressing into the first-team.
 
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This isn’t likely to be affected in the next 3 or 4 years at the very least. Pogba and Rashford are likely to be in he XI or on the bench most games with maybe lingard mctominay tuanzebe and maybe TFM also likely to be in the mix
 

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Pogba isn't mentioned in the article, but several posters have.

Are we sure he counts?
He shouldn't really. He doesn't count as homegrown, so it would be silly if we claimed him as an academy player. Besides, didn't we nab him at like 16? I'm not sure we can take too much credit.
 

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Probably kept asking because se people always give the wrong answer.
I thought it was pretty unanimously decided he wasn't though. To the point where asking the question became an almost bannable offence. These are just a few of dozens...

He's what? 3 months shy of being homegrown? That's annoying.
He's not by about 3 months … it's 3 years "continuously" before the age of 21 Pogba was October 2009 – July 2012 (off the top of my head)
Yep, he'd have made it if not for Le Havres complaint holding up his registration.
Read the last few pages, this has been discussed at length, he is definitely not home grown.
No. he was a year short.
Not homegrown. He missed it by a few months.
I guess if the PL considers him homegrown then it's a moot point anyway.
 

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McTominay, who has been training with United since he was five, said after playing in the Carabao Cup win at Swansea on Tuesday: "When you see boys progressing and impressing in the first team, it gives the lads in the academy the motivation to keep pushing forward."
This is very important also. Players in the academy train and know they actually have a chance to play for United. I`m sure their parents take that into consideration as well.
 

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This is very impressive and fantastic to see. Long may it continue.

It does bring a question though: if this streak covers 80 years, why did we not have any local lads playing in the side in the 1930s? You'd have thought local talent is all they had back then.

EDIT: This is why...

Manchester United’s world-renowned youth system was first established in the early 1930’s with the formation of the Manchester United Junior Athletic Club (MUJACs). The aim of the organisation was to identify, recruit and develop young local footballers with a view to them eventually progressing into the first-team.
There were no youth systems back in the 1930's.

We started ours in 1932 and Tom Manley was the first actual youth player to make his debut but he was in and out of the team so we had runs of 30-40 games and then he would get dropped or injured etc.

It was only in the late 1930's that the system started producing players regularly like Pearson, Carey, Wassall, Hanlon and others...

Then the war happened so once again it was stop/start.

But even during the war, we had youth players start in every first team game...
 

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3910 consecutive games, and our two graduates starting have been two of the best players today.
 

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Title sounds like the sort of event Barry Bennell used to organise.