Its a good point - and this is coming from someone that didn’t think Garnachos was a penalty.
Should have to watch it at full speed.
I was shocked by the choice of words from official manutd.com
This one is most shoddily applied rule in football. Referees enforce it when they feel like it, and it's hardly ever in situations when it needs to be enforced.
It is quite mental really when you actually think about it that in 2023 a wall is marked out by a ref walking. Why don't they just give the ref a 10 yard measuring tape?!
My intention posting that was actually in relation to the second video. The clearest view showing Rashford being clipped by the keeper which tripped him up.
They would just do as in the sky clip above describing the handball, where the guy describes a completely different version of events than the one we can see unfolding with our own eyes.
And they should increase the length of the footage. When you present a very small (and biased ) sequence of the whole action, on repeat and in slow motion, of course it can influence the ref
Probably still only get 3 mins added time.
The answer to this is Anthony Taylor. Collina’s directive at the World Cup was to cut out time wasting - so there were large amounts of added time given in each match - which I thought was great. One of the matches it was 3/4 matches, despite there being a lot of time waiting - who was the ref for that match? Anthony Taylor.
How much of an authority, if any, does Collina or the FIFA ref chief have on PL refs?
The reason why it doesn't work in the PL as well as it for the most part does in UEFA/FIFA competitions is how VAR is implemented. The English refs fancy themselves the best in the world and were hostile to its introduction and every season since they've chopped and changed how they use it. Ultimately it comes down to ego, many of them don't like to be overruled. I think for the first 1 or 2 seasons some refs didn't allow their decisions to be changed and no Ref even went over to the monitor to see if they'd been wrong.
This is important. At least from our side. There need to be official statements about ABU refereeing that have been since end of Fergie days. We need to speak out and demand cams and mics on referees and in VAR room. We need to have transparency and explanation why so many decisions go against us. Important ones. Same decisions that are barely noticed in other games. We need to bring this up every game. Before and after. Regardless of what score is. Club must say that it is enough now. We should not get bullied anymore.
They might but there's only so far they could stretch the truth every week before it becomes laughable.
And neither do most of the fans
Dermot Gallagher was and forever will be a prat
It doesn't even matter what body part it hits first. That was only a thing between 2019 and 2022 . The guidelines got updated in 2019 to say that if it ricochets of another body part onto the arm it's not a handball
Of course but it isn't the fans job to know the rules inside out.
Wiki says he’s the UEFA head of referees - I’m not sure if it applies to specific leagues or just the European competitions.
Yeah I agree with this - which is frustrating. I think we all acknowledge and appreciate it’s a difficult job - but instead of embracing the changes and technology that can really help them, it really feels like they’re doing whatever they can to get rid of it
No it isn't but they lose a lot of credibility when they complain about rules they don't know or understand
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Obviously, Rashford forced his leg to make contact with the keeper and then tripped on his other leg while doing that.
In second half added time one of the Southampton players went down past the goal line, slowly gets up, trots back on field, and immediately goes down. Was such an obvious time wasting tactic likely taught.
Well perhaps but how deep does one's knowledge of the the rules have to be for their opinion to be credible, when half the time Professional Referees don't seem to know or understand them either, yet it's their full time job and they're making £50-100k per year with the expectation that they should know them?
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Well their first mistake in that situation was not awarding Eriksen a free kick. So the situation only arose because they fecked us over to begin with.
Thank you for posting this. Really puts it into perspective. Really no doubt, not even worthy of discussion any of those clips. Blatant wrong refereeing behaviour right there. How many points you'd think we'd collect if these horrible mistakes wasn't accepted/encouraged. We'd probably be up there with Arsenal right now, such is the margins of the PL. The clips miss a few more penalty incidents but the McTominay penalty is just incredible. How is it possible to not give a penalty, even with bias is beyond me. They simply can't even try to explain how that is not a penalty without exposing some sort of bias.
Yeah that one is unbelievable. It's as blatant a pen as you'll ever see. I was flabbergasted when they didn't give a pen for that.
