Who wants a game of skill, with a formulated game plan and a battle of wills when you can have a shitshow where the team who is favoured in a series of random events wins
VAR and Refs | General Discussion
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Yes, obviously. Nani would never have gotten that red card if there was no Real Madrid player there, players use their feet to stop the ball every game.
For the love of God, get rid of this mess. I've never changed my mind on something so much - I was a big cheerleader for it. What a farce it makes of so many matches. It's almost all that gets spoken about. Nobody knows what's happening half the time. You cant celebrate goals.
I’m still shocked that the defender elbowing Hojlund was not deemed a foul by VAR
Could be interesting with a Caf vote. I honestly can't understand how anyone could still think this has improved the game of football.
Awful officiating all round. Completely ruins the spectacle. This had the makings of a great game and it has turned into a farce.
Oh let's add this to them not getting a 2nd yellow and the ridiculous red for Rashford and the ridiculous pens
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Exactly. If a young talented exciting striker can score 2 goals and still be only the second biggest influence on a match then it's a problem. Just go back to the old world of a man with a whistle and two assistants. Maybe use it for offisde goals and that's it. If neither penalty was given tonight nobody could complain much. Most blatant fouls via tackles are awarded anyway.
And he was already on a yellow!
Are they not endangering an opponent by doing the same action as Rashford then, regardless of whether the other player plants their foot first? It’s either a dangerous action or it isn’t, because as it turns out, the guy isn’t hurt at all.
Indeed. City got a penalty awarded to them the following weekend for a sliding defender closer to the kick than Romero was, and it was a pass attempt not a shot on goal; Haaland missed the spot kick. No one mentioned proximity in the incident, go figure. There was another similar call a week or two later.
The Romero non-decision was egregious, only trailing the Diaz offside call for batshittery from officials.
The proximity thing is a far more sensible way of doing it, in my opinion, but the PL refs are just hopeless at enforcing it consistently.
I don't see why they couldn't just say "not handball if the ball has come from within 1m" and then when they do VAR checks, measure that distance on the image.
I don't know if we have different experiences, but in the thousands of games I've watched and played, making contact has always been an important variable.
I don't think VAR can intervene for yellows, even if it's a second.
That came from a corner that they just guessed over.
Wasn't even a corner, was it?!
The linesman miraculously can tell the ball was out by looking through the post, net and Onana.
But why? It’s a completely random moment that hasn’t hurt the person, wasn’t intentional at all, and happens multiple times a game. That shouldn’t decide a game of football.
Why the game is the way it is? I don't know, I didn't make it.
I've gotten carded for accidentally elbowing people, I've never gotten carded any of the countless times I've elbowed the air.
Couldve been a direct to be honest
But there's always a risk of contact when you shield the ball like that. If it's not endangering the opponent unless the opponent sticks his leg in a particular place trying to challenge you, then it's simply not something that falls under the umbrella of endangering an opponent.
You’ve been red carded for accidentally elbowing someone? We aren’t talking about yellows here.
@AndySmith1990 you sure I’m still rawk? Or do you want to be a man and admit you were wrong?
Just once, but yes. It was a pretty bad hit, broken nose and all.
This foul on Maguire 
Well I’d say you had a poor decision go against you too. It’s a contact sport and accidents will happen.
Possibly the worst decision of the nightThis foul on Maguire
VAR and the absurdity around handball has the game in the absolute pits.
Just a clown show.
Just a clown show.
When are we gonna start pumping money in these people's pockets? Something is seriously going on, there's no way they can be this consistently bad against one team.
Neither should’ve been given. I think that red is very harsh though.
I hate what football has become. The rules, the VAR, it's all shite
VAR is the most corruptible change introduced to football in a long time and I truly believe we're seeing it now. It coincides with huge middle eastern interest in the game too that wasn't there prior. Fixing through a var official is infinitely more possible than through a referee and it is a genuinely plausible explanation for just how bad this sport has become so quickly.
Tell me some broke Lithuanian amateur ref isn't gettable? We have the current 'treble winners' blatantly buying titles and we're supposed to act like it's tinfoil hat time to suggest this rotten sport is corrupt at the very heart of matches.
Tell me some broke Lithuanian amateur ref isn't gettable? We have the current 'treble winners' blatantly buying titles and we're supposed to act like it's tinfoil hat time to suggest this rotten sport is corrupt at the very heart of matches.
VAR was brought in to help the referees make the right decisions and make them quickly.
It hasn't improved the game and has arguably made the game worse. I have finally decided that it is time for it to go.
It hasn't improved the game and has arguably made the game worse. I have finally decided that it is time for it to go.
No wonder people call for everything with a performance like that.
Also it shows, yet again, that this idea that it is only in England that officiating is a mess is a total nonsense. Game needs a reset.
Also it shows, yet again, that this idea that it is only in England that officiating is a mess is a total nonsense. Game needs a reset.
Dreadful referee display in all honesty. Its a cliche but the game truly has gone.
Inexperienced ref from Lithuania btw.
That red card decision can only be made if you ignore what actually happened in real time. An absolute pile of shite that.
Can we start a petition or something? Var doesn’t work in it’s current implementation
The game is in a bad way. Of the three big decisions, i thought all 3 were wrong. Not that it's solely about intent but there was no intent in any of them. At which stage the game becomes a lottery.
A lithuanian construction project manager refereeing a champions league game of that importance. Okay.