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Rashford can have no complaints about getting a red there, it may have been accidental but he could have caused serious injury.
 

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They’re often given. Not a red for me though, it’s a total accident and not an aggressive studs-up challenge. It just looks bad. Can’t complain too much about VAR here though because these are given quite often.
 

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Don’t think we have much to complain about with this one. Hit him with studs above the ankle and nowhere near the ball.
Aye it's unlucky as there was clearly no intent but the way it landed it's always a red, we'd be moaning if it wasn't given against us
 

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He is looking at the ball and ffs that is not intentional. Oh my fecking days that’s horrible.
 

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Freeze the image and it looks bad. Watch the video and it’s just an unlucky incident. A player planting his foot next to ball is not dangerous play.
 

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That's unlucky but can't see how anyone could argue it's not a red. Don't need intent for it to be a red.
 

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Don’t think we have much to complain about with this one. Hit him with studs above the ankle and nowhere near the ball.
Rashford isn't looking and moves his foot towards where it lands before the opposition player. Opposition player moves in under Rashford's leg already in motion. Never a red by other standards (Fabinho, Saka, Carroll, etc.). If it was Casemiro, it'd be a 5 match ban this time.
 

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I honestly give up with VAR.

Here’s a slow motion of a player placing his ankle under the oppositions foot.

Red.

Games gone. Whole thing is a fecking joke
 

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But Saka on Bruno in the Arsenal game wasn't even checked despite being at pace and deliberate :lol:
That was my first thought when seeing the Rashford red. They need to stop showing VAR in slow motion and still pictures, it gives a complete incorrect context of what actual happened in real time and makes a milisecond late challenge look a deliberate vindictive act.
 

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You’ve got to use common sense. Anyone with half a brain can see what Rashford was doing there and that it was completely accidental. It wasn’t even a dangerous action, the guys leg appeared underneath him as he stepped across.
 

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Don’t think we have much to complain about with this one. Hit him with studs above the ankle and nowhere near the ball.
We can complain because a similar incident happens almost every game and they aren't picked up by VAR. Not every incident of contact should be a foul.
 

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Classic VAR scenario where no would give an incident even a second thought until the slow mo. Where everything looks worse.
 

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Anyone who has ever played football knows that isn't a red. It's purely an accident
 

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AWB made a great one on one tackle that resulted in their player stamping on AWB’s groin esrly in the first half. It was totally ignored by VAR.
 

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So everyone who’s ever stepped across an opponent to protect the ball should be sent off if someone’s leg moves under them during that movement?
Can't lift your feet off the floor anymore or you're in danger of being sent off for endangering an opponent.
 

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It’s a red, no complaints really. Just wish our players wouldn’t give the ref and VAR a decision to make. Maguire with the handball in the first 20 seconds of the game. It’s moronic.
 

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That’s insane. Incredibly daft decision. Absolutely bizarre. Need to stick together now.
 

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That's unlucky but can't see how anyone could argue it's not a red. Don't need intent for it to be a red.
It just means red cards are a total lottery. Players have to plant their foot, if by random chance someone is in the wrong place then someone is getting sent off. Really there should have to be intent and not send players off just because it looks bad.
 

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Don't think he can argue. They've targeted those sorts. Remember awbs red a fee seasons ago in the CL. Anything on the ankle like that is a red in Europe
It was a joke then and it’s a joke now. You don’t need to ruin a game for those kind of incidents. It’s not something you can take out of the game by punishing it like a two footed tackle. When Rashford decides to plant his leg and protect the ball, the other players foot wasn’t there.
 

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Looked worse in slow motion. Two players going for the ball, no malicious intent from either, just an unlucky landing and coming together. Such incidents are inevitable on a football field, yellow would have sufficed.
 

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Can’t argue with that one, accidental or not could cause a serious injury.

Unlucky, but shouldn’t really ever be giving the ref such a decision to make.
 

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That's unlucky but can't see how anyone could argue it's not a red. Don't need intent for it to be a red.
100% agree! Its not about intent here, or whether it looks worse in slow motion.
Fact is, it is an awfully mistimed and dangerous challenge that could easily have broken an ankle. It's unfortunate for Rashford as he clearly doesn't mean it, but it's a red card, plain as day.
 

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Now, the penalty is a terrible decision. Nothing to say about the red, but that is never, ever a penalty.
 

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There is absolutely no way on Earth Maguire can move away from that. Was it even looked at?