Referees keep going with their ManUtd rule. Disgrace.
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Bruno getting a yellow there was a disgrace. He was booked for literally trying to take a free kick. Nothing for the Villa player blocking it.
Yeah that was abysmal
Utterly bizarre
I gave up months ago but somehow its getting worse and finding new bottoms. The Dalot red, and now the Fernandes yellow. Then the stoppage time tonight.
That he can give that yellow and never have to explain it is a broken system.
That he can give that yellow and never have to explain it is a broken system.
How the feck was 9 minutes of ET allowed?
As @SER19 says above, he doesn't even have to explain it either. It's swept under the carpet and will never be mentioned again. Just because it wasn't a game changing decision doesn't make it any less of a disgrace.
Pretty sure it’s classed as unsportsmanlike behaviour as in trying to get the player booked even though the defender was already getting booked.
It’s a booking from 2008 when they tried to clamp down on those cheap yellows overnight, somehow they changed it to the player taking the free receiving the yellow and never looked near it since.
Until tonight
It’s a booking from 2008 when they tried to clamp down on those cheap yellows overnight, somehow they changed it to the player taking the free receiving the yellow and never looked near it since.
Until tonight
And then at some point Fernandes will be suspended for an important game. I don’t understand in what world that was a booking for Fernandes. It’s even more bizarre that the Villa player got away with his part in it.
but its yet another one of those you see every single week, just like dalot, and seemingly only enforced for united. I dont know if these refs get hypersensitive about potentially being accused of united bias or what, but the overcompensation if so, has never been more obvious.
Utterly ridiculous. The amount of time added on seems entirely arbitrary.
I don't think the disallowed goal was off. Was a strange angle they used for the lines.
You could write a thesis on the fernandes yellow
You could write a thesis on the fernandes yellow
To be fair, Digne+VAR check for our disallowed goal took about three minutes. Then Villa were shithousing from the moment the second half began until we made it 2-2. It's just that by the time we got to stoppage time we didn't need it since we'd turned the game around.
No…we were robbed v Fulham and City. We’d just like similar decisions to go for us. Perhaps we need to be more corrupt.You've been robbed
So true. And it will come back to bite us because, due to the nature of Bruno's game, he will rack up the cards.
Since the Liverpool game, we've seen so many posts on here pointing out other players getting away with what Dalot was sent off for in other threads. I'm looking forward to seeing the same after this.
It was off, they showed the picture with the lines from the otherside of the pitch and it looks quite clearly off.
Tbf I thought it was off straight away on first viewing.
It was a very strange angle that was shown. If you stop it in probably any other it won't look off with lines. Same as garnacho vs arsenal away, there was one angle with lines that looked on. In the tv replay just to the eye he looks on
Oh for feck’s sake not this again.
Weird reaction. You can show an angle that shows its off, somebody else can show one where he's level. We can agree that the var decision is final, but its hardly so infuriating to suggest there is a flaw in how and where they draw lines at times. We've seen errors with it plenty of times and offside calls are no different. People seem to think that the offisde lines are as accurate as a ball over the line call- they arent though, theyre a guy with a computer pressing pause and drawing lines at his best estimate
Some people don't understand how perspective works. It's crazy some of what I've read on twitter about lines.
Goes without saying that I want VAR killed with fire but those lines aren’t created by some guy manually trying to line them up with the end line. They’re computer generated and 100% accurate in terms of being parallel with the goal line. The angle you’re looking at them is irrelevant.
Where it all falls apart though is identifying the moment the ball is played. That creates a huge margin of error, which makes knee cap offsides a total farce.
Garnacho against Arsenal was not offside. We should have 3 points from that game.
Yesterday I thought it was but I wouldn’t count out that lines were put at wrong time when ball already left the foot. We got shown one (!) example yesterday from 50 miles obove.
Oh dear…
Problem like in Garnacho case was that lines were drawn at wrong time. It is not when ball leaves the foot. It is first contact before leaving the foot.
Yup as the player can move quite a bit, its only 50fps cameras. The exact moment the foot hits ball won't be captured most likely.
Big grey area.
Yup. And it’s something that flesh and blood linesmen have been getting spot on for decades, as they can listen to the sound of the ball being struck. All done in real time with decisions made instantly to a consistently excellent standard. And we canned all that because of a load of cry babies who can’t handle human error, so we’re living in a dystopia where people argue about lines on a screen and any goal with even a hint of offside takes minutes to ratify. So fecking annoying.
Pep not booked for imaginary flagging towards linesman for allowing play to continue for a close offside, then flagging. A correct application of the current rules. Dissent and not punished, as per the Dalot benchmark.
I think var is at the growing pains stage. We'll probably have near instant and perfect automatic offside detection that'll just buzz the referee's watch or something similar in a decade, which will do away with all this drawing lines charade. I don't think we'll ever go back to the ways. The genie is out of the bottle.
Same here, close but definitely off, on my feed the comentators called it straight away
There's more conspiracies in here than Truth Social and Twitter!
If thats a pen for City why wasnt ours against Spurs?
Because well you know it's not or something.
You’re just trying to catch me out. I can’t win. If I say one is a penalty you’ll say the other should be.
City swarm the ref yet again. 8 players around him within 2 seconds.
It's such a coincidence that the UAE are flying PMGOL referees our to the Middle East to earn half their salary (reported, likely more - see Mancini and Yaya Toure) on private jet, all expenses paid trips to oversee Sunday League level games AND City continue to get favourable officiating decisions.
8 red cards then? Match abandoned? Or have we revised the rules since they were applied to a United player.
I can never understand why they didn't apply the clear and obvious rule to offsides. Pick the nearest frame and best Angle, no lines just a question of has the linesman made a clear and obvious error, anything that looks tight/level go with the linesman's on pitch decision.
“Ref, ref! Do you want that all expenses paid New Years beach trip for you and the family or what?!”
I just cant understand how they claimed ours against Spurs wasnt given because of the close proximity yet the City one tonight that was even closer was given, City also got one awarded against Sheff Utd that was closer proximity than ours against Spurs.