Victor Osimhen | Saudi deal collapse? | Ogden: United decide that he’s not the right profile

[arnoldS]

If he goes to the Saudis he is an ambitionless moron anyway. He could become a cult hero here but I guess you can't have a comfortable life with only 6mil a year. Shame really as he is a fantastic player but like many other before it seems he is a greedy cnut.

 

[croadyman]

If he goes to the Saudis he is an ambitionless moron anyway. He could become a cult hero here but I guess you can't have a comfortable life with only 6mil a year. Shame really as he is a fantastic player but like many other before it seems he is a greedy cnut.

Yeah what a waste of his prime years going there at 26, mind you apparently wanted the move when at Napoli so maybe that says it all

 

[Gandalf]

I'm still not convinced we won't sell one of Garnacho or Mainoo to fund one or two more Amorim style players.

I do think Garnacho is likely to leave, not a great fit in the system where he prefers to play wider than the number 10 role calls for and he lacks the defensive attributes to be a wingback. Napoli still have interest and a hole in their squad from the sale of Kvaratskhelia.

 

[mctrials23]

I do think Garnacho is likely to leave, not a great fit in the system where he prefers to play wider than the number 10 role calls for and he lacks the defensive attributes to be a wingback. Napoli still have interest and a hole in their squad from the sale of Kvaratskhelia.

Wouldn't have any issue with Garnacho leaving. Bigger issue with Mainoo leaving but again, if the right fee comes in...

Mainoo is a good player to have in many systems and can adapt. Garnacho I fear is a bit of a one trick pony and that trick isn't that good.

 

[Ikon]

I'm still not convinced we won't sell one of Garnacho or Mainoo to fund one or two more Amorim style players.

For me, as soon as I heard mention of Osimhen being a possibility, I immediately thought, that will be Garnacho heading out to Napoli then..

 

[Syphon Wallet]

Thanks. That looked bad.

We have had worse moments from our players over the years.
Not saying that behavior is OK, but perhaps we could do with more players again that have that kinda passion and react badly to losses.

 

[aeh1991]

We have had worse moments from our players over the years.
Not saying that behavior is OK, but perhaps we could do with more players again that have that kinda passion and react badly to losses.

It's passion when you look at it in a positive way, I agree. But it will get annoying when he does that during an important game or when we have injury crisis and he gets banned for several games. We can just hope that he gets calmer and shows this passion on the pitch only, without getting sent off.

 

[davidmichael]

I'm still not convinced we won't sell one of Garnacho or Mainoo to fund one or two more Amorim style players.

I don’t see us having a big summer of incoming transfers and it’ll be more upgrading key areas like a striker, a left sided 10, a right wing back, a central midfielder and maybe a keeper if Saudi follow up their reported interest in Onana.

Apparently all of Gyokeres, Cunha, Delap and Frimpong have release clauses or agreements in place to leave their clubs and we seem happy to pay a little more than the release clause of players in other to amortise the fees so in theory we could buy Delap, Cunha and Frimpong for £135 million over 5 years which is more than offset on the yearly balance sheet by selling just Rashford at £40 million so it’s about being clever which if I’m honest is where I worry as we’ve rarely been clever in years.

 

[Tarrou]

I'd have rathered him than delap, but I'm not that excited about either

 

[Ed9]

We have had worse moments from our players over the years.
Not saying that behavior is OK, but perhaps we could do with more players again that have that kinda passion and react badly to losses.

Oh we have had way worse absolutely.
But the video in the link didn't look like passion to me more like cowardice.

 

[croadyman]

For me, as soon as I heard mention of Osimhen being a possibility, I immediately thought, that will be Garnacho heading out to Napoli then..

Then Ornstein poured cold water on interest

 

[Shinjch]

Always thought that the combination of his wage demands and career choices would make it very difficult for top clubs to take the chance on him.

 

[GoldanoGraham]

I think that Oshiman will be tooooo tempted by the Saudi cash….he was prepared to go before so that says a lot about his ambition. He is cash driven and unfortunately for him Woody has now left the building so he won’t get that out of Sir Jim.

Garnacho to Napoli….thats a no go as they just wouldn’t pay the going rate. We should keep him anyways.

Everything we’ve heard and seen of since SJR’s reign signals that Oshiman is not their man….

 

[croadyman]

I think that Oshiman will be tooooo tempted by the Saudi cash….he was prepared to go before so that says a lot about his ambition. He is cash driven and unfortunately for him Woody has now left the building so he won’t get that out of Sir Jim.

Garnacho to Napoli….thats a no go as they just wouldn’t pay the going rate. We should keep him anyways.

Everything we’ve heard and seen of since SJR’s reign signals that Oshiman is not their man….

So sad to see him leaving Europe at only 26

 

[Ted Lasso]

I don’t see us having a big summer of incoming transfers and it’ll be more upgrading key areas like a striker, a left sided 10, a right wing back, a central midfielder and maybe a keeper if Saudi follow up their reported interest in Onana.

Apparently all of Gyokeres, Cunha, Delap and Frimpong have release clauses or agreements in place to leave their clubs and we seem happy to pay a little more than the release clause of players in other to amortise the fees so in theory we could buy Delap, Cunha and Frimpong for £135 million over 5 years which is more than offset on the yearly balance sheet by selling just Rashford at £40 million so it’s about being clever which if I’m honest is where I worry as we’ve rarely been clever in years.

Jeezus Christ when you put it that way especially becomes a lot easier to stomach Rashford moving on

 

[McGrathsipan]

If he goes to the Saudis he is an ambitionless moron anyway. He could become a cult hero here but I guess you can't have a comfortable life with only 6mil a year. Shame really as he is a fantastic player but like many other before it seems he is a greedy cnut.

Just listen to yourself. Think about him and his financial future and then think about your puny football fan brain.

Of course he'll go to Saudi for a big pay day.

 

[davidmichael]

Jeezus Christ when you put it that way especially becomes a lot easier to stomach Rashford moving on

This is why so many teams try to sell players that are classed as academy graduates for big money as it provides a massive boost PSR wise but my big concern is what happens if Amorim is struggling at Christmas ?

I think if things are the same come then Amorim will be gone and what happens if the next person in charge wants to play with fast wide players that like to run in behind like Rashford or Garnacho and we’ve sold them on to buy players to specifically fit Amorim's system ?

This is why I hate coaches having all the say on transfers and tactics as it means overhaul after overhaul is needed because we have zero continuity with how we play as a club and all the players fit different coaches, only one who’s fitted throughout the past few years is Bruno.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

I don’t see us having a big summer of incoming transfers and it’ll be more upgrading key areas like a striker, a left sided 10, a right wing back, a central midfielder and maybe a keeper if Saudi follow up their reported interest in Onana.

Apparently all of Gyokeres, Cunha, Delap and Frimpong have release clauses or agreements in place to leave their clubs and we seem happy to pay a little more than the release clause of players in other to amortise the fees so in theory we could buy Delap, Cunha and Frimpong for £135 million over 5 years which is more than offset on the yearly balance sheet by selling just Rashford at £40 million so it’s about being clever which if I’m honest is where I worry as we’ve rarely been clever in years.

You are correct. Mount as an example allowed Chelsea to spend £250m - from a PSR perspective.

Good chance PSR is gone next summer and the PL falls in line with other leagues and UEFA.

 

[aeh1991]

This is why so many teams try to sell players that are classed as academy graduates for big money as it provides a massive boost PSR wise but my big concern is what happens if Amorim is struggling at Christmas ?

I think if things are the same come then Amorim will be gone and what happens if the next person in charge wants to play with fast wide players that like to run in behind like Rashford or Garnacho and we’ve sold them on to buy players to specifically fit Amorim's system ?

This is why I hate coaches having all the say on transfers and tactics as it means overhaul after overhaul is needed because we have zero continuity with how we play as a club and all the players fit different coaches, only one who’s fitted throughout the past few years is Bruno.

If you think from a manager's perspective, it makes totally sense to want players that suit his style instead of using players there who don't - which will lead to underperforming. It's a risk but worth taking. We need to build the best squad possible for Amorim. And since you mentioned Bruno, quality players will always be able to adapt.

 

[arnoldS]

Just listen to yourself. Think about him and his financial future and then think about your puny football fan brain.

Of course he'll go to Saudi for a big pay day.

Are you for real? Many footballers choose to earn a bit less to stay in europe and either go for glory or whatever. In fact most are and maybe go for "the big pay day" when their career is essentialy over. Osimhen is 26 years old.

 

[Fox outside the box]

Are you for real? Many footballers choose to earn a bit less to stay in europe and either go for glory or whatever. In fact most are and maybe go for "the big pay day" when their career is essentialy over. Osimhen is 26 years old.

And enough others don't. Everyone is different and like with any other career, each person has their own life going on and differing wants, needs etc.

Easy to talk about when it isn't your life and is a complete fantasy situation to you.

So many online nobodys feel qualified to tell people what they should do with their life and how their next decade should ultimately pan out.

There will be a ton of factors that lead to a decision like this. You're just making it a straight up choice between 'pay day' and 'glory' because you're an outsider, who has no idea who this person is, what their life is etc. So you simplify it down to what you can understand.

Football fans are hilarious, with crazy low emotional intelligence as a demographic. Monkey brain was a great way to put it haha.

 

[aeh1991]

Osimhen is not playing in the desert YET, so let's discuss it when anything is confirmed. I think the main reason we cooled our interests is that his wage demanda are too high. But who knows what happens if he has a change of mind?

 

[golden_blunder]

Osimhen is not playing in the desert YET, so let's discuss it when anything is confirmed. I think the main reason we cooled our interests is that his wage demanda are too high. But who knows what happens if he has a change of mind?

True and all the Delap talk could possibly be “we’re moving ahead with someone else if that’s your decision”

I hope that unlike last summer, Napoli and osimhen get something done quickly so nothing is dragged on to the last days of the window

 

[Nick.]

I wonder if we got UCL + a sale could we afford his wages

 

[McGrathsipan]

Are you for real? Many footballers choose to earn a bit less to stay in europe and either go for glory or whatever. In fact most are and maybe go for "the big pay day" when their career is essentialy over. Osimhen is 26 years old.

Saudi clubs pay huge money. Not a "bit" more.

4 years of a huge contract will set him up for his whole life.

Why can't people understand this?

 

[FootyGirl88]

 

[Bondi77]

Next stop for Victor will be Saudi then!

 

[The Original]

Next stop for Victor will be Saudi then!

If that quote is true then he would be right to go that way. I've always tried to explain on here that he was never asking for massive wages, just parity with his Napoli earnings, yet a lot of experts kept chiming in with rubbish claims of him wanting mega money in the region of 350 - 500k per week.

What he's asking for works out to about 180k (GBP) per week [edit], which is about standard Premier League pay for a leading striker at a top 10 club. If no one is willing to offer the bare minimum then fair play to Victor for backing himself elsewhere.

However, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that it will be Saudi just yet. He could very well end up staying in Turkey.

 

[Red Shorts]

If that quote is true then he would be right to go that way. I've always tried to explain on here that he was never asking for massive wages, just parity with his Napoli earnings, yet a lot of experts kept chiming in with rubbish claims of him wanting mega money in the region of 350 - 500k per week.

What he's asking for works out to 150k per week which is standard Premier League pay for a leading striker at a top 10 club. If no one is willing to offer the bare minimum then fair play to Victor for backing himself elsewhere.

However, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that it will be Saudi just yet. He could very well end up staying in Turkey.

Is 12m EUR net equivalent to that? Can't do the math.

 

[The Original]

Is 12m EUR net equivalent to that? Can't do the math.

In GBP it should be - haven't done the math precisely either but I'm sure it would be around that.

 

[-Supreme-]

If that quote is true then he would be right to go that way. I've always tried to explain on here that he was never asking for massive wages, just parity with his Napoli earnings, yet a lot of experts kept chiming in with rubbish claims of him wanting mega money in the region of 350 - 500k per week.

What he's asking for works out to about 180k (GBP) per week [edit], which is about standard Premier League pay for a leading striker at a top 10 club. If no one is willing to offer the bare minimum then fair play to Victor for backing himself elsewhere.

However, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that it will be Saudi just yet. He could very well end up staying in Turkey.

£180k net salary (after tax) so he actually earns close to £400k a week.

 

[LordSpud]

Yeah what a waste of his prime years going there at 26, mind you apparently wanted the move when at Napoli so maybe that says it all

A cynic would say that Bruno Fernandes has wasted his prime years here though.

 

[Cassidy]

£180k net salary (after tax) so he actually earns close to £400k a week.

Doubt its correct. Napoli don’t pay that well unless there is some special tax situation

 

[-Supreme-]

Doubt it’s correct. Napoli don’t pay that well unless there is some special tax situation

Perhaps. I was just correcting the poster comment regarding Romano’s tweet above.

 

[The Original]

£180k net salary (after tax) so he actually earns close to £400k a week.

I'm aware it's net salary... Not sure what you mean to point out... Is a net salary of 180k unusually high?

 

[hellhunter]

I'm aware it's net salary... Not sure what you mean to point out... Is a net salary of 180k unusually high?

Would easily make him our highest earner

 

[-Supreme-]

I'm aware it's net salary... Not sure what you mean to point out... Is a net salary of 180k unusually high?

You said from the same post that £350k - £500k is “mega money”, but surely you didn’t mean net as no one in the PL earns anywhere near close to this amount?

He is on close to £400k a week based on Romano’s tweet and you think this is a standard salary from a top 10 team?

 

[SungSam7]

Nah, move on. When there's questions about his overall ability, there has been drama around him and the fact he's playing in the Turkish for the past season. The club needs to turn in another direction, those wages would be something we will live to regret in 2 years time.

 

[FootyGirl88]

 

[aeh1991]

He's an idiot. Would be a win-win situation if he joined us with a lower salary.