30m for Delap or 55m for him? Sure he'd have a bigger salary, but for me this is a no brainer
Viktor Gyökeres
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30m for Delap or 55m for him? Sure he'd have a bigger salary, but for me this is a no brainer
He's not joining us over Arsenal
Wouldn't be too sure. Arsenal seems to be unsure whether they want him or Sesko. We have Amorim. The chances he joins us are slim, but wouldn't rule out completely.
Give him a reason to think about it, instead of just accepting it. He is simply a 80-100m player as in his position there are not so many good players around. If you are getting him for 55m just give him a sign on bonus and whatever Arsenal is paying him.
Yeah that's a fair summary. Of course we should try if there's any chance
It's like we learned absolutely nothing
Yea I wouldn't solve it with the paying more strategy (wouldn't work anyway). Just let Amorim have a talk and if we can't convince him, move on.
He is Europe's golden boot holder, you go out there and do whatever it takes to ensure you sign this player to help you compete at the highest level.
Honestly, if he wants to come here to be a major part of the rebuild and to play for the shirt we should go for it. If we can only draw him with money, it won’t end up will. We need to stop overpaying for players - both transfer fee and wages.
It would be perfectly normal if he wants to go to Arsenal instead of us. There are other ways to rebuild the side without splurging on one guy.
It would be perfectly normal if he wants to go to Arsenal instead of us. There are other ways to rebuild the side without splurging on one guy.
Paying salaries through the nose has been an absolute disaster for us and plays a huge role in how we got where we are
£54m is hardly splurging these days
No the fee is totally fine, but you just know we'll be linked to some vastly overpriced players and the 'sign at all cost' crowd rears its head
Make it a sign on bonus instead of a salary as the transfer fee is not that big. He is a 100m player going for 55m.
That’ll be a bugger if he gets neither then
I would rather pay 55m for him than 50m for Semenyo or 70 for Mbeumo.
Yeah Ruben needs to do what Keegan did with Shearer in 96 if we can beat Spurs on Wednesday
IMO, there is quite a lot of risk with Gyokeres when you look at the big picture. He's had an amazing season but this is a league where Bas Dost hit 30+ goals and that just introduces uncertainty. He's also 27 this summer and probably wants a five year contract at big wages. So if he turns out to be a decent-but-not-all-that-great player in the PL then two summers from now you're looking at a 29-year-old on wages that make him nearly impossible to move.
I think the gamble makes sense for Arsenal because the team is right on the verge of winning the biggest trophies and a striker that can bag goals is the obvious missing element. And the club is in a very good position financially so Arsenal could carry this kind of albatross contract if it came to that. United are further away from big things and in a more precarious financial position, you should be spending the money on a Sesko or Ekitike if you're going big on a striker.
I think the gamble makes sense for Arsenal because the team is right on the verge of winning the biggest trophies and a striker that can bag goals is the obvious missing element. And the club is in a very good position financially so Arsenal could carry this kind of albatross contract if it came to that. United are further away from big things and in a more precarious financial position, you should be spending the money on a Sesko or Ekitike if you're going big on a striker.
Just the one season? Last season he had *checks notes* 43 goals and 15 assists in 50 games. That's two incredible seasons in a row on my counting. He did it last year in Europa, and this year in Champions League too, lest we fear the Portuguese league is a poor measuring stick.
It's not Championship Manager '93 where when a player reaches thirty there's an immediate devaluation. In 2025, top strikers are able to maintain their elite peak form well into their 30's. Conceivably, there's six years of the guy at his physical peak, and that's not factoring that some strikers who aren't solely reliant on pace can stretch big seasons into 35.
Sesko's asking price is more than what Sporting are asking for Gyokeres, and Sesko isn't in anywhere near the kind of form that Gyokeres has been in for a couple of years now. The idea that we should pay more to have a run at Arsenal's long-term CF target, so that Arsenal can have a free run at the ideal target is laughable.
Two footed, good in the air, great at hold up play, making runs in behind and into the channels, great workrate, really decisive finisher….not sure what there isn’t to like about him at 54m. Him and Cunha would be a radical transformation in our attacking potency. Cunha, Amad and Gyokeres with Bruno deep, would be a great attacking platform. Dorgu left and a new RWB who is more like a winger, would radically improve our team. Radically. I was torn between him and Osimhen but feel Gyokeres is more robust, has a better work rate, and is familiar with the system.
A striker is an absolute priority. If we sign him and Cunha, we have a great front three with a great balance of attributes and all in their best positions. No “accommodating”. Then with Garnacho, Zirkzee, and Hojlund as backups, we actually have some decent attacking options for the first time in ages. If we could bring in one other versatile player, like Cherki, we’d be laughing.
A striker is an absolute priority. If we sign him and Cunha, we have a great front three with a great balance of attributes and all in their best positions. No “accommodating”. Then with Garnacho, Zirkzee, and Hojlund as backups, we actually have some decent attacking options for the first time in ages. If we could bring in one other versatile player, like Cherki, we’d be laughing.
at the reported £50-£55M I'd prefer this deal over the £30M on Delap
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I see it the opposite way. We need players at their peak, as we have loads of young players. Gyokeres wouldn’t require massive wages, well paid yes, but not your 300k a week type signing. We could give him a 4+1 deal, which would carry him through to 31. So we’d have him for his best years, and in the interim we are developing the likes of Hojlund and Zirkzee. I see few other better options on the market for what we need.
Yeah sounds great! @simonhch I would love to see United line-up like this next season.
--------Gyokeres
- Cunha ------ Amad
---------- Bruno
--------Gyokeres
- Cunha ------ Amad
---------- Bruno
Some players last into their mid 30s, most don't. Statistically in aggregate strikers peak aged 25-29, although where any individual player will fall depends on a million other factors. I'm happy for Arsenal to take a chance on him given the circumstances but if the position of the two clubs were reversed, I would prefer Sesko or Ekitike. I don't think Sesko will sell for anywhere near some of the prices being thrown around, his fee will be similar to Gyokeres and probably on lower wages. Ekitike might be more expensive because I don't think Frankfurt is under much pressure to sell after the fee they got for Marmoush.
I don't think he is. He is good, probably very good but I don't see a 100m player there. 55 sounds really fair
Agree with both points. I think, he is a really good player but I don't think, he is a star. 55 seems pretty fair, but whether we should spend such an amount on a single player should be dependend on the overall budget. I think, there is too much to do right now to just go out and spend big on the latest hype player. This has gotten us into this mess and given the "unwavering" amount of some fans for Amorim, the point that we have Amorim to persuade the Swede is tricky as well. Especially when this reported price is real as I think, this would make him an interesting target for many clubs, most with better starting conditions than Manchster United.
Much better option than delap. But our transfer policy has been.
He must be a hit, give him the wage of one of our best stars. He doesn't work out as planned. We have an underperforming player on huge wages. Can't sell. Goes on loan.
I think oshimen would be my preferred choice.its scary how there aren't many great strikers out there to choose from. Has world football moved on from classic 9's?
He must be a hit, give him the wage of one of our best stars. He doesn't work out as planned. We have an underperforming player on huge wages. Can't sell. Goes on loan.
I think oshimen would be my preferred choice.its scary how there aren't many great strikers out there to choose from. Has world football moved on from classic 9's?
Whoever said he is good in the air I’m afraid he is average in that department despite being tall. He does score headers here and there but it’s not his main strength.
Viktor Gyökeres is one of the best strikers in Europe at the moment. Delap can't even lace his shoes. It would be a shame if we didn't get him. This guy is an absolute machine and he has had a greater impact than even Bruno had in Sporting.We literally have a Sporting fan saying he's the best player he's ever seen playing for them and some of you – and I'm pretty sure most haven't even watched full games – think he's shit just because he plays in the Portuguese league (the same one where we picked up our best player).
Yes absolutely. Bruno is such an asset playing deeper. Alongside a defensively solid CM in Casemiro or Ugarte, I say it’s a good mix. With Mainoo as his understudy and long term successor. We really need someone on the right though. Mazroui and Dalot are decent options there for certain games but our starting RWB needs to be closer to a winger than a defender, that’s how we create overloads and make this system work. I love Amad at RWB but he’s too perfect for the right 10 role to pass that up. We just need an Amad clone for the right. Easy peasy.
Most top players leave Sporting in their teens. Gyökeres turns 27 this summer.We literally have a Sporting fan saying he's the best player he's ever seen playing for them and some of you – and I'm pretty sure most haven't even watched full games – think he's shit just because he plays in the Portuguese league (the same one where we picked up our best player).
Simply have to win Europa League to compete for him
Agents Bruno and Amorim, get to work.
Lindelöf to the rescue
Does he win headers though. Anywhere in the pitch? If so it's very welcome.
It's a bargain literally. He's more like a 80-100m signing. He scored 100 goals in two seasons, that's like completely crazy. We payed 70 million for Hojlund and almost 100 million for Antony.
All of these players were overhyped while Gykores is a finished package ready to deliver in EPL. And our signings from Sporting were traditionally amazing: Ronaldo, Nani and Bruno.
Bruno and Ronaldo just "played" in Portugal but look at what they achieved in Utd. Gyokeres is a special player and a goal machine. We have to get him even if that requires breaking a bank.
Let's win the Europa first, then see
And now..? Bruno was only 1.5 years younger. Those teenagers usually need years until they become useful or they fail to live up to their expectations. If anything, it'd be great to sign a player at his prime for once, after failing with young players too many times inr ecent years (main reason I also embrace Cunha's transfer despite being too expensive for my taste).
If and it’s a big IF we were to get Gyokeres and Cunha then it drastically changes everything up top as a front three of Gyokeres, Cunha and Amad is potentially the best front three in the league and if you put Bruno in midfield orchestrating with overlapping wing backs then it’s as good as it could be for Amorim.
At £55 million and being European Golden Boot holder it’s a no brainer BUT it’s all pointless even talking about until late Wednesday night as it’s all going to depend on beating Spurs and getting CL football next season, makes me angry thinking that we paid nearly £20 million more for Hojlund than what Gyokeres is available for.
At £55 million and being European Golden Boot holder it’s a no brainer BUT it’s all pointless even talking about until late Wednesday night as it’s all going to depend on beating Spurs and getting CL football next season, makes me angry thinking that we paid nearly £20 million more for Hojlund than what Gyokeres is available for.
Feels like wing backs will be an internal solution
But that’s the point. Most quality players leave Sporting at a young age and @Sly was only commenting on Sporting careers specifically. Still not exactly faint praise but you have to consider that Gyökeres was arriving at Sporting at an age where most top academy talents would have already left. It’s not as if he was comparing him to a 26 year old Ronaldo.