He wasnt sitting on the bench for 2 years. He moved to Real and Leverkusen while can Gaal was here. I dont see how he ruined him in a month time. He ended his United career, but that was already going down before van Gaal
Was Chicharito the last “gem” to be unearthed by our scouts?
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LvG sold him to Leverkusen. He did decently enough for Real, scored a goal in their CL quarter.
Yeah and he scored for fun for Leverkusen in his first season, so how exactly did van Gaal ruin him?
For us. Between doing well for Madrid and Leverkusen, he couldn’t hit a barn door for us and looked bereft of confidence (remember the missed pen in pre season and that LvG look to Giggs?). It was clear LvG didn’t want or rate him so never gave him a proper chance.
In the grand scheme of thing, we got a good fee and he’d end up declining quite fast so it wasn’t a huge loss, however selling him that season while Falcao turned out to be a bust the season before, also selling RvP and relying on Rooney alone as a main striker was suicidal for LvG.
he ruined him for United!
He didint want to be a sub anyway, and he wasnt good enough to start as many games as he wanted. I dont see the issue
To be fair his decline began under Moyes.Moyes clearly didn’t fancy him and he slowly drifted out of the starting 11...
we got rid o a natural goal scorer when we needed one most...
Agree or at least OK with most of your statement except 1 - "...I think it's unfair to say our scouts are bad and fail miserably." We hired dozen of scouts who are being paid regularly, whether as full time staff or per deal. And yet we could only find 1 decent intake every few years. let's say you are a condo sales man and you only make a deal every 2 years, try to say to your boss that you are waiting for the next big deal...
I am not expecting CR, Mpabbe or Messi every 2 seasons, but I am expecting Vidic, Hernandez, Evra, Nani etc every year. We typically buy 2-3 players every season, with at least 1-2 "unknown" to armchair fans, 1 of which must be at least a decent squad player who can at least start on the bench. Since Hernandez, most in-take don't even deserve a bench.
Money has gone mad in football the past 10-15 years. This forces all clubs to look for the next big thing to either save money (big clubs) or make money (small clubs).
This is why no big clubs really finds ''gems'' anymore. Well, not good valued ones anyway. Also social media has played a huge role in exposing genuine talents to the masses. If you really wanted to check who the next best upcoming players are you'd find them with no scouting experience purely based on their online reputation.
Real Madrid and Barcelona spring to mind. They've turned their attention to hot South American prospects. Not exactly ''gems'' as they're well known over there. Not exactly good money either, at £20-40m for a youth signing, it can easily back fire.
This is why no big clubs really finds ''gems'' anymore. Well, not good valued ones anyway. Also social media has played a huge role in exposing genuine talents to the masses. If you really wanted to check who the next best upcoming players are you'd find them with no scouting experience purely based on their online reputation.
Real Madrid and Barcelona spring to mind. They've turned their attention to hot South American prospects. Not exactly ''gems'' as they're well known over there. Not exactly good money either, at £20-40m for a youth signing, it can easily back fire.
Yes and the scout who unearthed him was Mike, the little Phelan.
True enough. One of my first signings as United manager on Soccer Manager back in 2012 when he was at Lyon. Kept track of him since and remember watching him in the Champions League against Arsenal for Monaco.@Damien knew exactly who he was.