And is Sourness right? Can Neves count himself lucky that he isn't currently having life-saving surgery?
Poll please mods.
Poll please mods.
Was it a foul?
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I'd say yeah, but not a clear and obvious mistake and therefore fine for VAR not to overturn it.
Certainly wasn't a leg-breaker.
Certainly wasn't a leg-breaker.
Yes it was a foul but not leg breaking challenge.
The way he was running everywhere to show little scratch on his leg was funny though
The way he was running everywhere to show little scratch on his leg was funny though
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No.
Yes
But, we'll take those luck our way
Souness is talking out of his ass saying it's a leg-breaker, it was not
But, we'll take those luck our way
Souness is talking out of his ass saying it's a leg-breaker, it was not
Thought he pretty clearly hit his shin pad to the point it spun a little on his leg. Not watching Sky so that only comes from a shitty steam, so dubious accuracy there. Thought I heard the contact as well and given the nature of the challenge with a bit of a lunge was just expecting the whistle. Dean let a lot go today so ehh.
Honestly he barely touched him, not a foul for me. Amazing the reaction to this challenge compared to the Bruno one last week which was clearly a foul!
It's a foul but a weak one. The one on Bruno last week was clearer. People acting like pogba almost killed him need to calm downm. Media is insane
Yes it was a foul but not a clear & obvious error that VAR should overturn & certainly not a leg-breaker.
Yea 100%
But there were other wrong decisions, wolves gk to blame for the goal not the ref
But there were other wrong decisions, wolves gk to blame for the goal not the ref
Couldn't care less
It was a foul but we don't want to see goals chalked off for minimal impact, happens all over the pitch.
Ince and Sherwood both think it's a red and a potential career ending challenge,
Ince and Sherwood both think it's a red and a potential career ending challenge,
Never a foul. If you compare it to the one on Fernandes last week where nobody in the media batted an eyelid I can't believe it is even a conversation.
The refs are supposedly wanting to let the game flow, why are we analysing these in microscopic detail?
The refs are supposedly wanting to let the game flow, why are we analysing these in microscopic detail?
Petition to rename this thread to "what is a foul?"
I think the ref didn't give it cos he saw Neves play the ball, see it was going to Varane, look at the ref then go down.
I think the ref didn't give it cos he saw Neves play the ball, see it was going to Varane, look at the ref then go down.
Definite foul. Neves didn’t do himself any favours in his reaction and I think watching how he responded on VAR probably made the ref’s mind up though.
No it wasn’t a foul. Minimal contact if any, ref didn’t give it from 2m away and VAR didn’t over turn it. Feck off Sourness.
Yes, it was a foul for me but a soft one. You win some, you lose some like we saw last week. Some of the reaction from the ABUs is way over the top.
Also, any decision Mike Dean makes is pretty much always the wrong one.
Also, any decision Mike Dean makes is pretty much always the wrong one.
I honestly couldn't see any contact. These situations seems to getting blown up way more when United are involved.
Maybe i just got rose tinted though
Maybe i just got rose tinted though
No. And i'm really liking this more lenient approach by the refs. Didn't think it was a foul on Bruno last week and there wasn't enough force/contact in Pogba's challenge this week
No.
Yeah, it was.
It can be a foul even though the fouled player doesn't feel any pain (like, say, a shirt pull), which I'm sure Neves didn't feel here. Pogba just clipped his shin pad, Neves felt that and dropped after looking at the ref and taking a step. It was far from a leg breaker, but in 100 cases, it'll probably be given 95 times.
It can be a foul even though the fouled player doesn't feel any pain (like, say, a shirt pull), which I'm sure Neves didn't feel here. Pogba just clipped his shin pad, Neves felt that and dropped after looking at the ref and taking a step. It was far from a leg breaker, but in 100 cases, it'll probably be given 95 times.
A grazing touch in a 50-50 challenge. Neves didn't get hurt, took couple of steps and then went down like a daft after looking at ref.
Yes, no doubt it's a foul. Pogba kicked the player, not the ball.
For everyone saying it's a foul, how are you relating that to the rule change, where minimal contact stuff is being let go this season?
did you think the one on Bruno last week was a foul out of interest?
Could have killed him
He could have killed him!
Edit - Hmm.
Edit - Hmm.
No, there was about 3 hours between any contact and Neves going down
Pogba lucky not to see jail time imo
It was an @Eboue surely!
No. Now feck this thread.
I’m going to say yes, though I’m not really geared in my head to see the game through the new lens the refs see it, with more physicality and more flow to the game.
I think Pogba went over the ball and clipped the leg of Neves on the way, the contact was small but I guess it would hurt. But I’m also of the opinion that last weeks on Bruno was also a foul, so regardless of whether you think it’s a foul or not, there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s been consistent.
I think Pogba went over the ball and clipped the leg of Neves on the way, the contact was small but I guess it would hurt. But I’m also of the opinion that last weeks on Bruno was also a foul, so regardless of whether you think it’s a foul or not, there’s no doubt in my mind that it’s been consistent.
Not under the new rules. His studs moved his shin pad a bit and you could see that he didn't even feel it.
I thought we were lucky. It was reckless regardless of how much contact there was. Its not just about the result with a lunge, it's the height and the action.
Yeah. A foul. You could see Neves’ shin guard get twisted round. And he obviously had some sort of gash he was keen to show Mike Dean (one gash to another)
Clear foul for me.
Definitely not.
Last season it would've been. This year possibly not from what the refs are saying, but it has to be consistent across the board.
I thought so, but so was the challenge on Bruno last week. They did say they’d let more go, so it’s alright. Leg breaker? No way!
Didn't touch him.
Nor did Xhaka yesterday.
One is a red, other is a goal for us.
Yeah yeah, but Xhaka was two footed....
Still.
You either call the foul if there is contact, or you call it if there is intention.
Nor did Xhaka yesterday.
One is a red, other is a goal for us.
Yeah yeah, but Xhaka was two footed....
Still.
You either call the foul if there is contact, or you call it if there is intention.