This is what I thought.
Was it a penalty?
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Happens all the time but because it was such a dramatic dive it looked more like a pen..
Stonewall- Lloris done that last year penalty was given
Nope.
Without a doubt
Goalkeepers are protected so much and given so much leeway to foul that, based on precedent, he'd have to walk up to the player and punch him to give away a penalty in the area; the only exceptions are when the ball's on the ground and they trip the attacking player. In the air, it's pretty much fair game.
Was a peno, he was so far behind the ball. Just heard ETH claim there was a touch on the way in, after Onana made his move, but reckon he knows that it's a pen deep down.
We were fecking lucky tonight, not including the pen.
We were fecking lucky tonight, not including the pen.
Outrage on Talk Sport and talk of controversy on BBC so imagine my shock seeing the highlights and the sort of foul that regularly goes unpunished
There's no anti-United agenda though!
Should be a pen in my opinion but based on precedent then it's not clear cut. Keepers seen to get away with it more often than not
There's no anti-United agenda though!
Should be a pen in my opinion but based on precedent then it's not clear cut. Keepers seen to get away with it more often than not
I think so. Onana clattered two players, he was nowhere near the ball and I can’t understand why it wasn’t given.
All I can say is I can see why Wolves wanted one. Onana was late on a challenge and took out the player
The argument is it was an aerial challenge, eyes on the ball, 50/50 challenge.
Onana didn't foul the heading player, their own player clattered the header.
Onana didn't foul the heading player, their own player clattered the header.
I think it should be a penalty.
But rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly) goalkeepers get a ridiculous amount of leeway in situations like that, which Onana benefitted from.
But rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly) goalkeepers get a ridiculous amount of leeway in situations like that, which Onana benefitted from.
Yeah, stonewall.
It's obviously a pen, but goalkeepers are basically a law unto themselves. One of those weird intricacies in the game. Like blatantly obstructing a player when trying to force the ball out for a goal kick/throw in. Goalkeepers have clattered the opposing attacker for years and more often than not they have got away with it.
They never give these as pens and they're not about to start now.
I'd he'd prevented either player from getting to the ball it could have been a different story.
I'd he'd prevented either player from getting to the ball it could have been a different story.
If it was given we probably don't have a thread named
Was it a penalty?
Was it a penalty?
They’re hardly ever given but they probably should be.
No. No excessive force and the ball was loose. Just a standard penalty box clash.
Of course not.
I would be howling with laughter if we got away with that. It's a clear pen
Clear pen for me.
Even if you argue that it wasn’t a penalty that’s fine but this idea that it’s being discussed in the media because it’s United is such crap. It’s a MNF game in which this happens in 94th minute. Of course it will be a huge talking point
Love this answer. 100% correct
I honestly don't understand how anyone can think that's a penalty. The attacker has already played the ball before Onana challenges him.
You see keepers get away with these kind of challenges every week in the league. It wouldn't even be a talking point if United weren't involved
You see keepers get away with these kind of challenges every week in the league. It wouldn't even be a talking point if United weren't involved
By the letter of the law - it's probably a penalty, for all the usual reasons (Onana misses the ball and catches the player with quite a bit of force after the ball is played). I think he is helped out by the fact that his hands and arms don't make much contact, but rather his body, so that makes it seem more like a regular "challenge / coming together" of players.
Luckily Mr Magoo was on VAR duty
If a player gets a shot off and then gets hit afterwards, it is never a penalty. In this case, it wasn't even the guy who headed it who got run into. It was the other guy who was also trying to head it. Onano is coming out and making himself big. If the player is touching it around him and he clangs into him, then it's a penalty. But in this case the players shot was not interfered with. He got it off and it was wide. 100% not a penalty. I'm sure some can show examples if this being given, but i'd argue that those calls were probably wrong. Even if they were against us...
Absolutely a pen but I'm definitely not complaining.
Yes. Clear penalty.
It's a pen, if that happened up the other end in the dying seconds we'd be up in arms.
For a second I thought I was on blue moon after reading that.
Since it was Onana, no.
If Sa did it, of course it’s a pen.
If Sa did it, of course it’s a pen.
I'm not even sure if it was the guy who headed it who got hit. There are 2 guys in there. I'm pretty sure it's the other guy who gets hit. EIther way, it was well after the header
Free out. That big tree for Wolves didn't try to play the ball and interfered with the keeper coming for it. Those are always given as a free out.
Similar incident in the spurs game. Player got there first. Nothing given. These aren’t usually given but tend to be a debate when we are the focus.
No. If that’s a penalty there’s no point keepers even trying to catch those any more
Objectively I think that when the keeper comes out and makes an honest attempt but misses the ball and punch the player in the face with the force of a thousand fists, it should be a automatic red card and penalty. I also think the keeper should be allowed to challenge for the ball with the same force as defenders do, and despite the awkwardness of his arms being that high up, it really wasn't that bad. He is allowed to touch the ball with his hands, yet if his hands were down you wouldn't consider the force to be reckless in it self like in a shoulder to shoulder situation. So the question should not be if it looks weird, but if the keeper is using his hands in a dangerous manner that could hurt the player. That should be the rule for these types of situations. Gives you some protection for the keepers but even if you indeed get unlucky, just punching a player in the face or in the head should lead to a red card every time.
No, the keeper got a bit more freedom as they are allowed to use their hands. However they will get penalised if they use to much force. Good decision imo since that’s how they do it and it shows that they actually are consistent.
Penalty. Just like we should have got in first half.
Sa did do it, after Antony lobbed the ball their keeper clattered in to him and it did not even get a VAR check, because these things happen all the time.