We have been poor, but referees and VAR has cost us at least 5 points

[OldSchoolManc]

I am in no way excusing our poor play this season. I looked at the fixtures through the first few months and thought ‘Not a bad start’.
Obviously, it hasn’t gone that way...
But, I seriously think, that HAD referees and VAR been making the correct decisions, we would have been at least 5 points better off so far.
Opponents getting away with murder and our players booked for minimum and plain wrong decisions.
Why ARE United being treated worse than say, Liverpool or City?

 

[Bulldog United]

VAR is being applied consistently badly across the board. They don't want to overturn anything except very marginal offsides when someones shoulder is 1mm offside.

That challenge from Noble was a blatant red card.

Might as well just use VAR for looking at offsides and accidental handballs from attackers, and nothing else. Nobody likes seeing goals in football anyway.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Next year is our year la'

 

[LuisNaniencia]

Eh?

 

[OldSchoolManc]

I know we’ve been bad, but I’ve found myself more angry at the officials than our own rubbishness.

 

[Treble]

I am in no way excusing our poor play this season. I looked at the fixtures through the first few months and thought ‘Not a bad start’.
Obviously, it hasn’t gone that way...
But, I seriously think, that HAD referees and VAR been making the correct decisions, we would have been at least 5 points better off so far.
Opponents getting away with murder and our players booked for minimum and plain wrong decisions.
Why ARE United being treated worse than say, Liverpool or City?

We got 5 pens in the first 5 games. That's more than City got in 38 games last season...

 

[sullydnl]

We're not being treated worse than anyone else. It's the sort of paranoid delusion you hear from many clubs' fans. Our problems are entirely of our own making.

 

[Raw]

Honestly even if we got those 5 points we'd still look poor getting them, all it would do is paper over the cracks.

 

[mu4c_20le]

There were some dodgy decisions in a very close game

 

[Ace of Spades]

Yeah, not just with us, in general it has been poor. Refuse to overturn blatant wrong calls.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

We're not being treated worse than anyone else. It's the sort of paranoid delusion you hear from many clubs' fans. Our problems are entirely of our own making.

Honestly even if we got those 5 points we'd still look poor getting them, all it would do is paper over the cracks.

I made the disclaimer saying that we’ve been awful, but seriously, we are getting the bad end of the stick from officials.

 

[Heinzesight]

Any gifs of that prick Noble getting away with murder again?

 

[Orestetes]

Enough with the poor excuses. We’re absolutely horrendous as a team, the end

 

[Feed Me]

OP can get to feck

We have a shit manager and players.

End of story.

 

[kiristao]

I agree at least today. If Mata gets a yellow for that clip then how the West Ham CB didn't get a 2nd yellow for stopping Mata from starting a attack is beyond me. Also a stud showing, leg off the ground sliding tackle is not a red apprantly.

 

[acnumber9]

No they haven’t. We can’t even be sure we would’ve scored an earlier penalty against Palace.

 

[The Firestarter]

Mate feck off. We got 4 penalties awarded for 5 games, without that we would be in relegation zone.

 

[dove]

We have been dogshit, not poor. If we keep Ole, it’s gonna get much worse than that.

 

[Relevated]

Remember the season Liverpool hit the woodwork a million times? Yeah they should be league winners by now too.

 

[Harry190]

What about today was wrong? Noble's dive is a 50-50. And we were already down 1-0.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

What about today was wrong? Noble's dive is a 50-50. And we were already down 1-0.

Noble should have been sent off long before he ‘won’ a free kick.

 

[Ish]

I remember the good old days when I used to laugh at such paranoia/excuses on RAWK

 

[OldSchoolManc]

Mate feck off. We got 4 penalties awarded for 5 games, without that we would be in relegation zone.

Genuine penalties, are genuine penalties. We should have had at least 2 more.

 

[Harry190]

Noble should have been sent off long before he ‘won’ a free kick.

Yea, but were 1-0 down already. We weren't gonna score.

 

[tenpoless]

I will never give in to the plague that infected Liverpool fans!

What's next? Jurgen Klopp's fault?

 

[Denis79]

Please, please stop with all the excuses. We hired a lesser manager and gave him a weaker squad. That's what's happening right now, not VAR or poor refereeing.

 

[meamth]

Didn't Fred touched the ball first between Wilshere's legs?


I'm confused.

 

[Tapori]

VAR in this PL has been poorly implemented and we have suffered but it is across the board.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

With all the criticism, could someone please point out where I have said that it’s an excuse for us playing badly?
We have been very poor from the start of the season. All I have done in the original post, is to state the fact that the officiating in our games so far, has been scandalously bad.
Leave the abuse for the ‘performances’ thread. Thanks.

 

[freeurmind]

I am in no way excusing our poor play this season. I looked at the fixtures through the first few months and thought ‘Not a bad start’.
Obviously, it hasn’t gone that way...
But, I seriously think, that HAD referees and VAR been making the correct decisions, we would have been at least 5 points better off so far.
Opponents getting away with murder and our players booked for minimum and plain wrong decisions.
Why ARE United being treated worse than say, Liverpool or City?

Ty is that you?

 

[RyRy11]

If we were better we wouldn’t have to worry about poor decisions either. Frustration should be directed to the club rather than officials.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

Trolls are rife on this forum. I refer to my last post and the OP. I have stated that we are bad.
Officiating has a knock on effect. If you feel that the officials are not playing fair, it grinds you down.
I’ll state again WE HAVE BEEN POOR!

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Where are the 5 points?

Even if Noble got sent off we still wouldn't have won. There was no goalscorers on the pitch for us.

 

[OldSchoolManc]

Where are the 5 points?

Even if Noble got sent off we still wouldn't have won. There was no goalscorers on the pitch for us.

Crystal Palace, 3 points If it was officiated correctly.
Wolves, again, another 2 points.

 

[Eric7C]

I am in no way excusing our poor play this season. I looked at the fixtures through the first few months and thought ‘Not a bad start’.
Obviously, it hasn’t gone that way...
But, I seriously think, that HAD referees and VAR been making the correct decisions, we would have been at least 5 points better off so far.
Opponents getting away with murder and our players booked for minimum and plain wrong decisions.
Why ARE United being treated worse than say, Liverpool or City?

A+ trolling

 

[AshRK]

Cannot blame VAR if we cannot score from penalty or cannot score against 10 man Southampton

 

[gerdm07]

And other clubs can probably claim the same thing except for Liverpool and City. What's your point?

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Crystal Palace, 3 points If it was officiated correctly.
Wolves, again, another 2 points.

How?

We were given pens in both and missed both.

And other clubs can probably claim the same thing except for Liverpool and City. What's your point?

VAR fecked City against Spurs.

 

[Sky1981]

This is embarrasing.

You can argue if it's a cup final. But not getting a red card in a league games? It happens. Get on with it

 

[elmo]

Our lousy performances have costed us more.