MyOnlySolskjaer
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It's been mentioned that Beckham ran over 16KM against Greece. What other examples are there of this?
Gary Linekar?
Shit. Sorry, ‘run.’ Dunno.
It's been mentioned that Beckham ran over 16KM against Greece. What other examples are there of this?
Just found a website that listed scientific studies about this topic.
A study in 1952 measured an average distance of 3.3 km per match, one in 1974 found 4.8 km, in 1979 we were at 7.1 km and in the year 2000 a study set the average distance at 10.1 km per match.
A study in 2007 about La Liga and Champions League matches found an average distance of 11.39 km and a record of 13.74 km. A 2009 study about the Premier League established an average distance of 10.7 km.
So I'm very skeptical about someone supposedly running 16 km in 90 minutes some 20 years ago.
Beckham’s average at league level was 14km. So 16km isn’t that far fetched
Yup. Vs England. 16339mI remember Brozovic ran around 16 kms in one of the world cup game but it was in 120 mins.
1 | Leander Dendoncker | WOL | BRI | 07/03/2020 | 13.21km |
2 | Dele Alli | TH | LIV | 11/01/2020 | 13.14km |
3 | James Milner | LIV | SU | 02/01/2020 | 13.11km |
4 | Tomas Soucek | WH | MC | 19/02/2020 | 13.10km |
5 | Bernardo Silva | MC | LEI | 21/12/2019 | 13.07km |
6 | André Gomes | EVE | BRI | 26/10/2019 | 12.91km |
7 | Jack Cork | BUR | MU | 22/01/2020 | 12.79km |
8 | Pablo Fornals | WH | ARS | 09/12/2019 | 12.75km |
9 | Philip Billing | BOU | LEI | 31/08/2019 | 12.71km |
10 | Sean Longstaff | NEW | EVE | 21/01/2020 | 12.69km |
I’m surprised Fernandes isn’t on that list at any point. How about this season perhaps?This was the top 10 last season:
1 Leander Dendoncker WOL BRI 07/03/2020 13.21km 2 Dele Alli TH LIV 11/01/2020 13.14km 3 James Milner LIV SU 02/01/2020 13.11km 4 Tomas Soucek WH MC 19/02/2020 13.10km 5 Bernardo Silva MC LEI 21/12/2019 13.07km 6 André Gomes EVE BRI 26/10/2019 12.91km 7 Jack Cork BUR MU 22/01/2020 12.79km 8 Pablo Fornals WH ARS 09/12/2019 12.75km 9 Philip Billing BOU LEI 31/08/2019 12.71km 10 Sean Longstaff NEW EVE 21/01/2020 12.69km
Rather shockingly, we only have one appearance in the top 100. Fred ran 12.18km vs City, putting him in 78th position.
Some sports use outlier stats like these to identify dopers.
The Beckham figure is likely to be inflated given I'm fairly sure it was a one-off measurement so there's little robustness about the quality of the data. Not that he wasn't capable of covering big distances with his engine and school middle distance running credentials, but for it to be a figure that nobody has got anywhere near since is doubtful.Is it possible that Beckham's numbers are inflated? That tracking technology may not have been as precise back then.
I can provide Bundesliga numbers as a frame of reference. They only started tracking this type of data in 2011. The all-time record since then is 14.7 km by Vladimir Darida...and as far as I know he's way ahead of all other Bundesliga players. Kimmich's record stands at 13.7 km for instance.
Then again there's probably a long-distance runner out there who once played a football match and beat that.
I'd take the old studies with a large pinch of salt for the same reason - unlikely to be any consistency of methodology for the measurement.Just found a website that listed scientific studies about this topic.
A study in 1952 measured an average distance of 3.3 km per match, one in 1974 found 4.8 km, in 1979 we were at 7.1 km and in the year 2000 a study set the average distance at 10.1 km per match.
A study in 2007 about La Liga and Champions League matches found an average distance of 11.39 km and a record of 13.74 km. A 2009 study about the Premier League established an average distance of 10.7 km.
So I'm very skeptical about someone supposedly running 16 km in 90 minutes some 20 years ago.
I’m surprised Fernandes isn’t on that list at any point. How about this season perhaps?
He completed two Marathons in the 2014 world cup.Thomas Muller ran 14 or 15 km in a WC game and that is not unusual for him.
To be fair I'd expect that some positions in the 90's/00's ran more — today teams are usually way more compact. And Beckham was one of the most insanely hardworking runners of all-time, so in such a game, constantly running up and down, I'd say that in a one-off game it's possible.My point is that I doubt this is accurate. A google search yields an old guardian article that makes that claim but there's no actual data from that era that would prove that.
Some present-era PL data I found: last year the record for a single match was 13.21 km by Leander Dendoncker. In 2017 the highest average was 11.97 km by Christian Eriksen.
Good shout, I think Cafu & Zanetti probably ran about 12km per game at least, they were absolutely tireless.I’d love to know how far Cafu ran against us when he basically produced the full back performance I have ever seen back in the day.
Not sure it proves anything, but this says the stats were provided by Opta or Prozone.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Football:+BECKHAM+IS+THE+BEST+BY+MILES;+Our+Captain+Fantastic+ran+and...-a078988042
I also read somewhere ages ago he claimed that he still ran 12 miles a game when he was 36.
I'd take the old studies with a large pinch of salt for the same reason - unlikely to be any consistency of methodology for the measurement.