- Mar 15, 2015
These posts are comedy gold, absolutely brilliant I don't think I've read one realistic post.
There has been nothing in Marca that would suggest Pogba is on Real Madrid's list for this summer. Marca's accuracy on Real Madrid transfers is incredible compared to any United source of info. If he runs down his contract and keeps his salary demands on the low side, then they might be interested in summer 2022. We can be fairly certain that Pogba wants to join Real Madrid, given all the comments from his brother. Most of the Juventus articles either assume a player swap or that Juventus will be able to sell unwanted players, without explaining who has the funds to buy them.Interesting that Whitwell didn't talk about Pogba in that article so obviously thinks he either signs a new deal (unlikely) or just stays next season and runs his contract down then leaves as a free agent
Romero, Rojo, Jones, Matic, Andreas Pereira, Mata, Lingard should leave or be sold. Williams, Mengi should be loaned out.Obviously a lot of the focus is on who might come in but that will at least partially dictated by our outgoings.
So who do you think should be sold/let go to cut wages, raise funds and free up squad space? And who do you think will be sold/let go?
Apologies if there's already a thread for this I didn't see.
These are the ones in question. I don't get why we want to keep Mata, who barely plays.Very unrealistic for one window but I think these would be the right moves to make for the players in question. The final cull of the squad, only the strong survive.
Sold or released:
- Henderson or De Gea - pick your no.1 and make bank off the no.2
You can't sell Romero or Mata as their contracts are expiring and you can't even release Rojo seeing as he isn't our player and has not been for several monthsRomero, Rojo, Jones, Matic, Andreas Pereira, Mata, Lingard should leave or be sold. Williams, Mengi should be loaned out.
What part of the phrase "should leave" do you not understand? The only thing you have a right to laugh about is Rojo. The rest are just exposing your folly.You can't sell Romero or Mata as their contracts are expiring and you can't even release Rojo seeing as he isn't our player and has not been for several months
In which currency? Because it's not in pounds.Sell - pogba, martial, lingard, mata, matic, dalot, pereira, Jones, Romero, James, Chong
200million there, to reinvest in the squad on top of the already placed budget.
could potentially give us 300/350million to spend on squad.
get grealish - 90mil. Sancho - 80, ings- 20mil, rice - 70mil and a centre back 50/60mil, trippier -15mil, ings 20mil back up for Cavani
might sound like I’m playing football manager but all these players are gettable for the right price. We just have to pay it.
Cavani, grealish, Bruno, sancho, Greenwood, rashford, Ings and amad would give us possibly the best attack in Europe? Name one defence in world football that would cope with that...
Someone like varane next to maguire, trippier to push and rotate with AWB and rice sat infront of them, we win trophies!
sounds ALOT but how do we catch city if we don’t do this type of business? We have to go big.
I suppose - but Navas has just signed a new deal with PSG.Juventus seems an obvious one.
we really do, we have the potential players, youth.. we have the foundation to be a very good team.. we have to make the right signings this summer and it won’t come cheap.Is this a joke? Not only is he an ex-scouse bastard, but he is no where near the level we should be expecting.
Also; "We have to go big.". Really? Like we have been for the past 7-8 years now? Falcao, Di Maria, Depay, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Mata (at the time a big player), Pogba, Lukaku and Sanchez... I think it's painfully clear that "going big" isn't the approach we need.
Selling martial for £30 million would be criminally poor.DDG - 30 million
Romero -10 million
Grant - Released
Jones - Released
Dalot - 20 million
Mata - Released
Pereira - 15 million
Matic - Released
Martial - 30 million
Chong - 10 million
Thats one Sancho and one Danny Ings. Wont happen though
Would agree with most of that on what we SHOULD do. I would personally keep DeGea though purely as I dont think Henderson has shown enough to justify him being ready, DeGea should be numbe rone with opportunities for Henderson. Not sure he is actually good enough....young, good loan and bougth up through the club isnt reason enough. I would sell VDB though.First team players Fred & Pogba.
Fred is crap and Pogba can't be trusted to play centrally, so he's being shoe horned in out wide. After that - James, Romero, Lingard, Jones, Bailly, Chong, Perreira, Matic, Mata , Dalot, De Gea would be my picks to go.
Could make the guts of 200m there and your only losing 2 real first team players.
Then sign 5 decent players and leave space for a couple of the younger players to fill in as back up if needed.
Reasonable response.The problem with selling players in our position is that they only then add to the list of positions we then need to buy for. Realistically the 6 players we can let leave this summer without worrying about replacing them are
Romero - out of contract, been back in South America all season anyway
Mata - out of contract, his minutes will likely go to VDB here on out
Andreas - he's been out on loan all season and not been missed
Lingard - he's been out on loan for half a season and not been missed
Jones - obviously
Grant - retiring?
Other players you would let go would be
Williams/Dalot - you can't allow both to leave without signing a replacement though. Williams needs to go for the sake of his career even if it's only a loan for a season. Dalot's had a seemingly successful loan in Milan who may want to keep him
De Gea/Henderson - one will leave meaning a number 2 needs to be signed, is that Heaton on a free and if so are we ok with him potentially being number 1 in case of an injury?
Matic - his legs have gone but he's still an option, let him go and you're relying on McFred to play twice a week for the entire season
Then you have the academy players who all need to go out on loan
Garner - Forest for a full season
Mengi - Derby
Levitt - somewhere
Laird - somewhere
Pellistri - somewhere
That's a lot of players potentially leaving the club but in reality it's never that many that actually do
TFM - not sure we can get a transfer fee for someone who left last yearThis is all hypothetical and of course, I don't expect this to happen ( particularly not in one summer window ) but here is my list of the players that I can see possibly leaving the club.
- Andrea Pereira - never good enough, had his chance, market value ~ £10m, wage: £49,000 p/w
- Diogo Dalot - decent spell at Milan, but Ole simply doesn't trust him, market value ~ £10m, wage: £34,000 p/w
- Jesse Lingard - great spell at Hammers can possibly earn him a move, solid player but entering last year of the contract, market value: ~ £15m, wage: £75,000 p/w
- TFM - 23 years old and still don't know what is his best position, market value: ~ £4m, wage: £22,000 p/w
- Phil Jones - no explanation needed, market value: 0, wage: £110,000 p/w
- Sergio Romero - a great servant to the club, but time to go somewhere and actually play before retirement, market value: 0, wage: £68,000 p/w
- Lee Grant - too old for this sh*t, retirement, market value: 0, wage: £30,000 p/w
- Juan Mata - lovely fella, gave us some moments of magic, but no need to extend his contract, market value: 0, wage: £135,000 p/w
- Nemanja Matic - legs gone, could still do a job in less dynamic leagues, market value: ~ £10m, wage: £120,000 p/w
Transfer fees: ~ £49m
Wages: ~ £33.4m p/a
Total: ~ £82.4m
Could possibly go:
- David De Gea: neither of Dean or him would be happy to be no.2 and given his ridiculous wages I would rather let go De Gea than Henderson, market value: ~ £30m, wage: £350,000 p/w
- Paul Pogba: one of our star players, but if he is not gonna commit himself and sign a new contract I could see him leave before his contract expires, market value: ~ £30m, wage: £290,000 p/w
- Anthony Martial: disappointing season, maybe at least possible to go but he has been too inconsistent to justify his wages, still skillful and talented player, market value: ~ £40m, wage: £180,000 p/w
Transfer fees: ~ £100m
Wages: ~ £42.6m p/a
Total: ~ £142.6m
I know that every club has its own deadwood but this shows to me how poorly this club has been run and that these resources ( approximately £225m ) could be reallocated to either strengthen the first team or, for example, to improve facilities.
You pay 85m for your top priority Sancho and then don’t pay him. How are you Jose, looking forward to Rome?Out: 82m
VDB 31m (or swap with Varane*)
Lingard 22m (only to West Ham for special fried price, if we are getting Rice for #)
* Swap Varane for VDBeek- Longshot! (Zidane/Real Madrid wanted him!) If Varane is serious about a new challenge, he will tell them they can get VDB, a young player with future value, who they wanted a year ago, or nothing, as he will run down his contract.
Heaton 0m (Keep both, De Gea and Henderson, for at least one more season).
Varane 31m (or swap with VDB)
Rice 60m #
Sancho 85m (Top Priority. Effective across all 3 Attacking Mid.Positions).
.............................................De Gea (Henderson)
Wan.B (Trippier) - Varane (Lindelöf) - Maguire (Bailly) - Shaw (Telles)
.................................Rice (McTom) - Pogba (Fred)
................Greenwood (Diallo) - Bruno (Sancho) - Rashford (James)
Senior Squad: Heaton, Tuanzebe & Williams (Loan, if we get Trippier).
Also Available: Mengi (L), Laird (L), Garner (L), Mejbri, Shoretire, Elanga, Pellistri (L
PSG just extended Navas, Inter won't pay DDG 350k a week and pay us a fee & finally Juve will, if anything, take Donnarumma on a free transfer this window. DDG won't be sold, nobody can afford the deal and we'd be selling our best goalkeeper. Henderson on the other hand could fetch 30-40m and many clubs could afford his wages after giving us a fee.Juventus seems an obvious one.
PSG just extended Navas, Inter won't pay DDG 350k a week and pay us a fee & finally Juve will, if anything, take Donnarumma on a free transfer this window. DDG won't be sold, nobody can afford the deal and we'd be selling our best goalkeeper. Henderson on the other hand could fetch 30-40m and many clubs could afford his wages after giving us a fee.
Extending Navas doesn't mean they wouldn't get DDG, DDG is better and they can afford two.
You think PSG would consider buying DDG for decent money AND match his current wages - in order to have DDG and Navas fighting it out for the #1 spot?If I were a betting man I'd put money on DDG not being here next season.
So you ignored AC Milan, Inter, Juve?You think PSG would consider buying DDG for decent money AND match his current wages - in order to have DDG and Navas fighting it out for the #1 spot?
Sounds unlikely to me.
Any other realistic takers?
I mean, DDG is a player on huge wages (immense wages for a GK) whose reputation isn't great at the moment.
If Ole has already told DDG he isn't no 1 then I highly doubt he'll spend his career on our bench at his age, especially as it's been known for years that he wants to be closer to family.Fair point, I guess.
But it's a default assumption for a reason. Most players in their (supposed) prime aren't willing to take a significant pay cut.