if we beat Newcastle - I think 6 wins and a couple of draws from the last 13 will be enough - so we are in a very good position
Who will choke to let Liverpool back in the top 4?
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As long as it's not us...
I'm just praying they don't end up out of the Europa league slots as don't want them getting a free run at the title next season.
Comfortable is an overreach I admit but still think we will finish 2nd and that is not saying United are some dominant team but that teams below us are equally inconsistent.
When I say chelsea is overrated, I say it keeping in mind how you lot especially your attackers have been performing or not performing. I know anything can change in football and we may see werner ziyech suddenly becoming the players they were last season but so far nothing is suggesting they are something to worry about. Tuchel result wise has done decent since taking over but I still feel he would need more time to make this attack click and hence I feel United may finish above you lot.
West Ham 
Why would anyone who's a fan of the Premier League want Everton representing English football in the Champions League?
They would be a waste of a spot for for the PL and just a reason for the PL haters to bump the 'Premier League is overrated' thread on here when they go out, similar story with Leicester, i want the strongest possible English clubs to represent the Premier League in the Champions League so any 4 of City/United/Liverpool/Chelsea/Spurs/Arsenal.
What's the point of this league anymore. The winner is decided thanks to the ineptitude of the others like us and Pool etc. I hate it that 19 teams are just letting City walk away with the title. One gutless performance after the other against City. Watching Arsenal roll over now.
With you on this, like Everton giving everything against us and Pool then lubing up for City midweek. Arsenal looked bet from kick off.
They won't continue to lose so many games. No chance they drop below Europa!
We'll all be delighted with them coming 5th, as long as they go out of Europe and don't steal it ala 2005.
cant care less what people talk about the pl. as it would benefit us when 4 of our closest rivals wont have cl football next year i hope pool chelsea arsenal and tottenham wont get top 4. should be a clear thing imo
We draw too many games and keep dropping points to relegation teams. That's why it is so important we beat Newcastle later as we increase the gap to 9 points.
Anyway I don't think Liverpool will drop out of top 4. They will eventually get their act together and finish 3rd or 4th. Things change too quickly in this league.
This has already aged well.
There is a pattern. Try hard against teams with a legitimate football history, don’t bother against the plastic one
Much as 'some' people want English clubs to fail in Europe though, the PL need to have a strong showing in Europe every year for extra spots.
I'm not like that though, we might be rivals with some domestic clubs in the league but being English and a fan of the Premier League, the way i look at Europe is its us against them.
Leicester got The q/f in their only season in the champs league and the furthest out of the premier league teams that season, despite all and sundry saying they would embarrass the Premier League and harm the coefficient (well mainly Spurs fans ), ( and they beat Seville and knocked them out, yes I’m looking at you Liverpool.) The big 6 fans need a reality check sometimes. New teams in the Champions League keeps it interesting.
Leicester got to the quarter finals of the CL.
How did the other teams do that season again?
If another team other than the "usual 6" gets into the CL spot, it's because they deserve it.
For example, you really think this seasons Arsenal are going to shine a good light on the PL?
Hope it won't be us.
I am a fan of United, don't care for the PL. With Liverpool and Chelsea not in CL, they will miss out on some of their targets, which is even better for us.
It's not just about City walking the title, they deserve to if the other 19 are going to play silly buggers. The situation is made stranger that all traditional big clubs (Spurs, Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool) would rather City wins it than any of the other clubs mentioned. Almost like it's an acceptable anomaly that will self correct in a few years. Like Leicester winning the league once.
yeah so either their meltdown hasn’t been as bad as people make out or our 2nd place (so far) season isnt really an achievement.
6 points is nothing Really.
The CAF summed up.Us.
Ole's at the wheel
United in 2nd place (currently 3rd before tonights game)off the back of a great EL game.
Still in FA Cup too
On course to finish 2nd again and still people are hating on the manager
....& yet 10 points between us and City is a mile off
Guarantee if it were the other way round people would be saying 6 points is a mountain to climb so late in the season and we wouldn’t catch Liverpool....
with the way city are playing it does seem a lot, it will be lucky if they drop any points from here to the end of the season. They’re strolling the league without getting into 5th gear.
it’s depressing that Liverpool have been on free fall for what seems like weeks yet we’re still only 6 points better off than them. It just shows you our season hasn’t really been all that Or anyone’s for that matter.
I just want us to be managed by someone with patterns of play, from a sensible European country who has a beard. Is that too much to ask?The CAF summed up.
United in 2nd place (currently 3rd before tonights game)off the back of a great EL game.
Still in FA Cup too
On course to finish 2nd again and still people are hating on the manager
If Solskjaer, Moyes and Rodgers finish ahead of Klopp this season, I think I’ll self-combust with laughter.
Please make it happen, football Gods.
Please make it happen, football Gods.
Our meltdown is absolute. Worst home run ever, loss to Everton at home, 16 losses in a calendar year. You name it, we shit it. I looked at Arsenal losing only 1-0 to City tonight and wished we could play like Arsenal right now. That's really bad.
Your latter point applies I'm afraid.
if thats your view ok, for me it is only about united, a cl win of a pl rival is the worst case for me. to be fair though, i am not english.
City are the most professionally managed club in the PL. Ten games into the season they were a crisis club. And all including me we're loving it. And look at them now. Unfortunately not an anomaly any more and they are here to stay. It's up to us and the others to up the standards and give them a fight. Which this year no one has been able to do.
Us!
I called it a few weeks past and Ole ball has crept back into the side and we look lost again.
Ole’s reluctance to drop Martial or hook him will cost us points again.
Chelsea, West Ham, Leicester all playing better than us and getting points. Likewise Everton. No way we finish top 4 playing our mind numbing garbage.
I called it a few weeks past and Ole ball has crept back into the side and we look lost again.
Ole’s reluctance to drop Martial or hook him will cost us points again.
Chelsea, West Ham, Leicester all playing better than us and getting points. Likewise Everton. No way we finish top 4 playing our mind numbing garbage.
Some absolutely awful posts in this thread from our fanbase
They're 9 points behind.
Worth noting that after 25 games last season, Leicester had the same points total and a better GD than they do now, whilst United had one fewer point and a worse GD than Spurs do now - and Spurs even have a game in hand! Things can still change dramatically for the Champions League spots.
That's funny! Tell me, what is history? Is it trophies won or is it relegations, rebuilds, stadium moves etc etc. You sound like a Liverpool fan, always fall back on trophies won as evidence of history. Football existed over a hundred years ago, plastic fan channels didn't.
Anyway, Liverpool won't be top 4, they have lost the aura which makes teams almost accept defeat, city have it now, utd had it in the recent past.
Just took a look at United's remaining fixture and we have a lot of tough fixtures left to play. After that I took a look at Leicester and Chelsea's remaining fixtures, and they both have a lot of tough fixtures still to play too, so I felt better. I don't think West Ham and Everton are realistic contenders. I think they fall away before too long, so as far as I'm concerned its 4 teams fighting for 3 spaces.
Leicester look a strong and resilient side at the moment and they will have learnt from last seasons collapse and I think they will make it. United also should have enough to finish above Liverpool. A 9 point gap with 39 left to play for is pretty sizeable, so I reckon its Chelsea and Liverpool that are most vulnerable.
Going to be a hell of a finish. The Chelsea game next week is huge. We must avoid defeat.
Leicester look a strong and resilient side at the moment and they will have learnt from last seasons collapse and I think they will make it. United also should have enough to finish above Liverpool. A 9 point gap with 39 left to play for is pretty sizeable, so I reckon its Chelsea and Liverpool that are most vulnerable.
Going to be a hell of a finish. The Chelsea game next week is huge. We must avoid defeat.
Tbf i do like Leicester, they've got some good players coming through (Justin/Maddison/Barnes), i just think Arsenal could represent the PL better in the Champions League, like Leicester got some good players coming through, but yeah on reflection part of me wouldn't mind seeing Leicester in the Champions League too much and see how Vardy does in stadiums like the San Siro/Bernabeu (even though i think he could start slowing down next season) and as you say got to the QF last time they was in the Champions League.Leicester got to the quarter finals of the CL.
How did the other teams do that season again?
If another team other than the "usual 6" gets into the CL spot, it's because they deserve it.
For example, you really think this seasons Arsenal are going to shine a good light on the PL?
Would hate to see Everton in the Champions League though, get the feeling they would go out group stage and would be just a waste of a spot for the PL.
Pool are finishing ahead of Leicester and Chelsea.
Really helps we have our (only) goal machine back from a long injury. And the world's absolute best CM back from injury and into in his natural position. And one of the best RBs finally recovered from his long covid. These things matter. It's not all about VvD.
Not sure about Leicester, but they're making the top 4.