The abhorrent racism that is enmeshed and tightly knit throughout clubs in that league would be bad enough, but this:
Third Celtic fan stabbed in Rome after win over Lazio
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50341574
Is pretty much the norm there, too. If the combination of the above were to happen in England with the frequency it does in Italy, we'd be facing another continental ban plus sanctions with none of this kumbayya shite that leads to the square root of feck all year after year. The Eastern Europeans are called out for the savagery and, as close to universally condemned as football has managed in recent times, but Italy? On a literal weekly basis, incidents happen there, which make the recent, highlighted behaviour by the Bulgarians in the international game, look tame. Furthermore, Bulgaria sacked the manager who denied anything untoward was happening amongst their supporters - Italy? Entire towns and rival supporters band together to blame the victims, all of this under the watchful eye of the two aforementioned governing bodies.
As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been a single proper sanction or condemnation put forth regarding the ongoing wild west of Italy where you even get guides on the likelihood of being stabbed in the arse (Rome) than there is actions put in place to eradicate this behaviour.
It's not so much that Italy fly under the radar - akin to a superpower in the real world who just gets a tut and left to their own devices, Italy and Italian football are just given carte blanche to carry on, as is tradition. How? Why?
What will it actually take to bring Italy in line and have them conduct themselves in the manner every other big league does? And how has society there allowed thugs such an entrenched footing? Even at its worst in England, hooliganism and what have you was seen as reprehensible by the masses at large and the government had been scheming on ways to disseminate the hordes. In Italy? Is there any such condemnation, and if there isn't, why is that? The impression given is that being an Ultra is a right old laugh: you get to be racist, violent and live out fantasies with impunity - you're even praised for it by your mayor... what, if anything, is in place to act as a deterrent if society at large, as well as the powers that be, really appear to complicit in harbouring, and indeed, nurturing generation after generation of these morons?
Third Celtic fan stabbed in Rome after win over Lazio
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50341574
Is pretty much the norm there, too. If the combination of the above were to happen in England with the frequency it does in Italy, we'd be facing another continental ban plus sanctions with none of this kumbayya shite that leads to the square root of feck all year after year. The Eastern Europeans are called out for the savagery and, as close to universally condemned as football has managed in recent times, but Italy? On a literal weekly basis, incidents happen there, which make the recent, highlighted behaviour by the Bulgarians in the international game, look tame. Furthermore, Bulgaria sacked the manager who denied anything untoward was happening amongst their supporters - Italy? Entire towns and rival supporters band together to blame the victims, all of this under the watchful eye of the two aforementioned governing bodies.
As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been a single proper sanction or condemnation put forth regarding the ongoing wild west of Italy where you even get guides on the likelihood of being stabbed in the arse (Rome) than there is actions put in place to eradicate this behaviour.
It's not so much that Italy fly under the radar - akin to a superpower in the real world who just gets a tut and left to their own devices, Italy and Italian football are just given carte blanche to carry on, as is tradition. How? Why?
What will it actually take to bring Italy in line and have them conduct themselves in the manner every other big league does? And how has society there allowed thugs such an entrenched footing? Even at its worst in England, hooliganism and what have you was seen as reprehensible by the masses at large and the government had been scheming on ways to disseminate the hordes. In Italy? Is there any such condemnation, and if there isn't, why is that? The impression given is that being an Ultra is a right old laugh: you get to be racist, violent and live out fantasies with impunity - you're even praised for it by your mayor... what, if anything, is in place to act as a deterrent if society at large, as well as the powers that be, really appear to complicit in harbouring, and indeed, nurturing generation after generation of these morons?