Never dared to get tight either in the first half, terrible defending for the first and second goal.
He was directly at fault for both goals and nearly conceded a last minute penalty. It’s called differently
K Stand is getting overly defensive. A young lad in his 3rd start isn’t shit because of an absolute howler of game, just as Evra and Vidic weren’t after a nightmare start to their United careers.
It genuinely is really shit conditions to play CB in, but that being said I didn't really rate him for the U23s and I haven't rated him for the senior team either.
Who told he was shit? People are saying he was abysmal today - because that’s the truth. It could well be a one-off
We’re agreeing with each pal.
He doesn't play for an elite club!
He was directly responsible for both goals, was absolutely all over the shop positionally the entire first half and lost a huge percentage of his personal duels.
He does, but not for an Elite side.
What makes United currently an elite club?
He was very bad today, a real liability. This is a performance-thread, what else should we discuss here?
Answer the question then, what makes us an elite club?Oh give it a rest man
We’re a fecking shite team currently but let’s not be daft.
Training ground isn’t shite, nor the is the stadium “decrepit” for fecks sake, the stadium has been completely fecking rebuild in the past 30 years man
Thought Mr No Composure was cowardly too. Why he's leaving the kid to be the most dominate CB....
And as long as the likes of him play for the club, we won’t be an elite club. So it’s kind of a catch 22, but ya get what I mean.
Let’s ignore the atrocious mis-control by Garnacho that directly led to the first goal but, yeah, Big Willy was wholly to blame.
And that’s fine. No issue with that. I am not devolving him if any criticism but just this place is so quick to jump on anyone.
True. Maguire needs to focus on his own game. Maguire isnt good enough to captain or coach his teammates. He needs to fully focus on his own job because he just lacks quality to do something extra. Virgil van Dijk plays next to a kid and that kid does okay because van Dijk is able to help him.
We should discuss his performance in a level-headed manner, not try and throw a young kid under the bus who is doing a half-decent job in a position he is learning. He hasn’t been any worse than any other CB we have played this season and people just need to remember that when they are being so heavily critical of him.
An Elite club isn’t about structure, or facilities, it’s about size & reach or so I'm told, guess we should discount City and Chelsea as they aren't big clubs with a sizeable reach, Arsenal and Liverpool are big clubs but not much reach if https://www.stadium-maps.com/facts/epl_facebook_table.html#fbtable if this is to believedAnd as long as the likes of him play for the club, we won’t be an elite club. So it’s kind of a catch 22, but ya get what I mean.
If, and that was debatable, it was a foul then it probably should have been a penalty because he was on the line so technicslly in the box, I think VAR scored one for us this time though I didn't think it was a foul in the first place!
Apart from last week when he also gave a goal away?
Hasn't he been thought of very highly throughout his progression in the academy, just had injuries that curtailed his development? I don't remember either of the other two being thought of as highly.
Not much anyone in that Liverpool team could do to prevent that. He had enough options and decided to just blindly pass it to Bruno who finished it really well.
