Problem is, the longer we wait the more the prices go up because selling clubs know our desperate need.
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If it is right that Woodward leaked Moyes sacking to the press without telling Moyes first, that is disgusting behaviour. I know Moyes was a disaster, but this club should have behaved with some class. Obviously not Woodward's way. He is a clown.
Word going around the private forums is that LVG is going apeshit behind the scenes due to the lack of incoming transfers...
One thing I will say, if this is true, LVG will say it if things don't happen in two weeks
One thing I will say, if this is true, LVG will say it if things don't happen in two weeks
What private forums? I only ask cos I don't know what they are.
I hope it's true, it'll put some serious pressure on Woodward then to actually do something and the current status quo is unacceptable
Who could blame him.
I'd actually love him to come out and give the responsible persons a bit of stick.
Not sure whether to believe that though.
In any other line of work you'd be sacked for doing such a bad job for such an important company.
Credible sources apparently....As I said though, we'll find it soon enough if it's true
If true then watch us make some deadline day panic buys again.
We pay under 20m a year on interest payments regarding the debt now. and the debt itself is bassically irrelevent due to our revenue. The money is absolutely there for a 150-200m splurge if we needed to.
Is he doing much wrong in the Glazers' eyes?
United can't be in for both Di Maria and Vidal, the money is simply not there for both of them.
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Not really sure we were ever going to spend £200m this window, but the money is there, with revenue increasing and interest payments on the debt down to just over £20m annually.
Compared to previous dealings, yes he should be. Since he's got the position, we've payed 4 million over a buyout clause for Fellaini, he took 18 months to nail down a deal for a BUYOUT CLAUSE for Herrera, Mata was forced out of Chelsea so it was hardly a miracle that we got him, Shaw is the only good buy I'd say, he was expensive but that was always going to be the case.
It was SAF and Gill that arranged Mata if you believe the rumours.
Backs my point up even more xD.. I mean Jesus Christ, I could fly around the world getting players for buyout clauses, the man is an idiot.
It's not a warchest, Ed is still looking for a hammer to break open his piggy bank.
The Swansea game was our blessing in disguise, and LvG does really know now what he can expect from his squad in EPL. Taking into account the financial importance of our deal with Adidas, I am sure Glazers are ready to spend big. Edward has enough money at his disposal, unfortunately, the time is ticking away too fast now. I expect us to overpay but get the transfers done before September.
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What's the point in always whoring out the United name to the highest bidder if you still balk at paying a few million in agent fees? The excuses keep piling up and this is looking like the 3rd window under Woodward's watch that has resulted in our needs not being met.
And even if by some miracle we do actually bring in players we need, surely Big Ed has shown his transfer incompetence for the last time. A CEO with such a record of screwups and poorly made of investments in 1 year at any other major company would be long gone
And even if by some miracle we do actually bring in players we need, surely Big Ed has shown his transfer incompetence for the last time. A CEO with such a record of screwups and poorly made of investments in 1 year at any other major company would be long gone
They do not even treat the fans with any respect, so what hope does Moyes have?
We have an inept chief executive, with an ownership making tons of money, but will not break the bank when it is needed. In their eyes 120 million since summer 2013 is enough money to invest in the squad
That was completely ridiculous but was overlooked in the joy of Moyes leaving. I hope someone had a word with him.
Do the owners not realise that if they sign one or two big name players they will shift loads of shirts? They could get some the money back immediately.
I hardly think the Glazer's give a shit about buying glamorous players to please fans when Woody has just secured the biggest shirt sponsorship deal in the history of the sport. The Manchester United "business" is doing better than ever!
Judge the club on what they DO and not what you read in the papers. Since the Glazer's took over the transfer windows have been no more than a bargain hunt or acts of desperation.
i was under the impression shirt deals don't work like that...Nike pay United a set price each year, so if they sell an extra 100,000 shirts with Vidal on the back it makes no difference.
Yup.
I would imagine Nike would love us to sell even more shirts, so they get the money back for their deal. They don't give us the money for nothing. We might get the money for putting names on shirts.
And that would matter to us why? Considering we've already agreed a deal with Adidas?
The business maybe doing well, the squad is not in good shape though
I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories. So-I don't think it's because the Glazers are cheap.
So-if the money's there, what's the problem?
I think United have been hurt by two factors: (i) Fergie was so successful doing things his way and (ii) that the talent pool is shifting away from England.
First-Fergie was a genius. And so United did well by staying out of his way and allowing him to do his job. So, when his solution for MF was to make Giggs a CM and bring Scholes back from retirement-nobody gave it a second thought.
Problem is that there was no structure in place when Fergie retired to make football-related decisions. The model was to give manager full control-which may work with LVG but was a disaster under Moyes.
Moyes hinted at these issues-and I do think he was on to something regarding United's scouting system-and its need to be improved.
Second is that the pool of talented English players is very shallow. United have great appeal to English players-but I'm not sure that extends to South American, German or African players.
Also-United previously could buy good players from EPL teams. Now United are looking to buy from Serie A, La Liga and the German league-and Woodward looks out of his depth in negotiating with such teams.
Bottom line for me is that United need to build a structure that allows the club to nurture/acquire talent without depending on the brilliance of one man, and cognizant of the complex environment it now faces.
So-if the money's there, what's the problem?
I think United have been hurt by two factors: (i) Fergie was so successful doing things his way and (ii) that the talent pool is shifting away from England.
First-Fergie was a genius. And so United did well by staying out of his way and allowing him to do his job. So, when his solution for MF was to make Giggs a CM and bring Scholes back from retirement-nobody gave it a second thought.
Problem is that there was no structure in place when Fergie retired to make football-related decisions. The model was to give manager full control-which may work with LVG but was a disaster under Moyes.
Moyes hinted at these issues-and I do think he was on to something regarding United's scouting system-and its need to be improved.
Second is that the pool of talented English players is very shallow. United have great appeal to English players-but I'm not sure that extends to South American, German or African players.
Also-United previously could buy good players from EPL teams. Now United are looking to buy from Serie A, La Liga and the German league-and Woodward looks out of his depth in negotiating with such teams.
Bottom line for me is that United need to build a structure that allows the club to nurture/acquire talent without depending on the brilliance of one man, and cognizant of the complex environment it now faces.
It would be very hard to find anyone on the Cafe that would disagree with you.
I feel sorry for the chocolate teapot for being compared to Woody. What a plank he is. Really miss Gill, he got the job done. So much for watch this space. I'll watch this space when he gets sacked. Theres some people that really do not deserve their jobs and EW is one of them.
Which begs the question - is he actually doing a bad job in the eyes of his bosses? Perhaps their perspective is drastically different than our$.
As I've said many times he's just a mouthpiece for the Glazers because they're too important to speak to us fans clearly. Woodward may be good at signing new sponsorship deals but he sure isn't when it comes to signing players. This cannot be allowed to carry on, it's very unprofessional the way we handle our transfer dealings. The club need to either get in someone of the David Gill mould to buy the players or get a director of football in to work along side van Gaal.
Having Woodward in charge of our transfer business is like having the marketing man of Sainsbury's or any other company for that matter because that appears to be the only thing that Woodward is good at.
Having Woodward in charge of our transfer business is like having the marketing man of Sainsbury's or any other company for that matter because that appears to be the only thing that Woodward is good at.
I really think their perspective is the same as ours, but for a different reason.
Failure to maintain a top quality squad will bring poor results. Poor results over an extended period will bring a reduction in the club's ability to generate income from sponsors. This is turn will affect the company's share price, and thus the value of the club.
The Glazers are anything but daft. They know poor performance on the pitch will eventually affect the value of their investment.
And do a Benetiz,we all know how that ended up.
Fixed that for you boss
Is that a pony tail? Love the balding pony tail lookMeet Edward Woodward's bosses:
Literally no-one who has some power in/over our precious club has a clue what makes a good football player. And people are wondering why we fail to bring in better players?
City have had Mangala as a target all summer and who knows how long prior to that. Not the same for us and Rojo. It's an excuse but it's true. You can't have the same expectations.
Our structure restricts us in this extent. We had continuity with Ferguson but now he's gone there have been 3 different managers. The only continuity in terms of targets are the ones we've signed this summer. What's needed is a change of structure to allow this situation to not happen again in the future. We no longer have an all-seeing man in charge.
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