If you mean Hannibal it doesn't surprise me that much. He's almost Park like with his work rate.
It's one of the things we are trying to do well. You can say we've been occasionally unlucky with the chances missed and that this will eventually improve over time and as we become a better side. The worrying part, in regard to the effort we put in to press high, is that, thus far, it doesn't translate into any kind of dominance in the attacking half. There's only one zone in the attacking half where we manage to have more touches than the opposition, and that is on the right side and away from the box. On the other hand, we are clearly losing many battles in our half of the pitch in the wide areas where we usually take risks with our positioning. We still look like a counter-attacking side that's trying to step outside its comfort zone. Hopefully, we'll improve.
If Salah and Saka can play as wide forwards and not cause issues for their midfield and defense, then no reason Rashford can't. Let's see now that there's more legs in midfield.
Yep agreed. Although again, I don't think it's as if he's downed tools or completely stopped running as some are claiming. He's still running some, and pressing some. Just not consistently enough, and yes with moments of unproductive body language (mostly directed, I think, at a perception of not getting decisions from refs, which he does need to get over.)
He gets abuser because his work rate is bad, something which you agree so not sure why you feel to say what you said.
You don't have to look hard to find people abusing him for every single aspect of his performance, actually. I'm pointing out that his work-rate can justifiably be criticised, albeit with moderation. But that much of the other criticism is unfair or overly harsh.
I also agree that Rashford gets overly abused in general but the work rate issue does highlight this more so. People tend to assume it’s about attitude and him not caring which I don’t agree with. He was lauded in fact for carrying the team-a couple seasons ago.
Ah yes I'm a software developer and I keep telling my boss I'm not a natural typer, so I don't really do much...
Pressing is basically running + following the managers instructions to know how to do it effectively. A pretty big part of any footballers job is running and following instructions. Saying he isn't a natural at that doesn't really make sense to me. Sounds like a cop out.
Do you think EtH would still select Rashford game after game of he was deliberately not following his instructions???
Basically this in response to the mocking of taking Rashford perspective.
Get HR involved kid….
Of course it’s on the player and it’s up to Marcus to do better. My point was it’s clearly not intentional like I feel the tone of the thread was alluding too. I’m not even sure it’s lazy as I know he cares but as I said before he can perform these tasks when concentrating.
Is Rashford getting abuse? Is he getting booed at Old Trafford? I'm curious to know what kind of abuse he's getting.
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At this point, my theory is that we're somehow the only club in top level football who aren't doping.
Not a bad theory. Or, knowing the geniuses in charge of spending our money, we’re buying the wrong dope. EPO from the middle aisle in Lidl.At this point, my theory is that we're somehow the only club in top level football who aren't doping.
INEOS and Dave Brailsford will sort us out.
0 accountability.
Our workrate improved significantly in ETH’s early days.
You work harder when you're motivated and believe in what you are doing.
Those stats are from our second game of this season. Don’t you think that’s a little premature for players to go on strike over the system/team he’s been using?
Yes but it's also a one off game and it was very clear the system didn't work in the game before. Well it was clear before that because of how frankly silly it was/is.
It’s not just one game though. It’s been exactly the same every time I’ve looked at stats from any game, or series of games, under every manager. This thread is seven years old and 37 pages long. I don’t think there’s been a single post in it with any evidence that we’re matching (never mind exceeding) the workrate of other teams.
Which of our current players was getting outworked under Van Gaal again?
I don’t know, or give a shit, you can see when the thread was started. That’s the time frame I’m talking about. Which is plenty long enough to include even the longest serving members of our squad.
So you're just talking out of your arse?
100% this.
If that was the one and only point I was making in this thread then sure, you can have your win.You're micro analysing the point he's made a bit too hard
To be honest, even if we were literally sprinting around like headless chickens I would be less annoyed. Because then at least I know the players are all giving 100%. What bothers me is that I’ve seen zero objective evidence of that happening.
