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Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!
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That email was a copy paste of Woodward`s words some months ago they didn`t write anything new or anything we didn`t know unless you haven`t been keen over the last few months. For the record if you read my post I said we will defo make a signing or two whether it will be what we want/need(a Sancho esque buy) is the doubt
I`ve personally never seen it cause after 2013 its only summer 2018 our window was REALLY underwhelming your logic would have made sense if we`d have had back to back windows of little or no signings followed by such articles but we`ve never been in such a situation so what you`re saying has actually never happened. You are creating speculation out of thin air.
They clearly stated that it won't be (business as usual) which means not to expect signings like Sancho.
Personally I think signing Sancho just show serious intent to climb the ladder, if we're not going to signs we still need 4 players in 4 different positions. Do we have the funds and resources to find these four players, yes we do. Do they have to be expensive? No. That's why we have scouts for God's sake.
If there are any plans for signings other than Sancho, then what's the delay?
Bit if a joke when you look at Chelsea significantly improving. We were better than them last year and they've already gone up a level or two whilst were resting on our laurels. Closer to Arsenal currently.
I'm this calm because it's clear the club want success as well. I haven't seen anything to suggest others other than irate fans upset because we haven't splashed £200m already!
We need to concentrate on bridging the gap between us and the top, Chelsea are rivals in doing that, but we should concentrate solely on the gap between us and the top two currently.
Chelsea have brought players for the here and now, Ziyech is 27, Werner is 24, Chilwell similar, Silva is experience, all bar Silva should be heading towards their prime, they are going for it this coming season.
I'm not worried so much by Chelsea and their spending, we've seen so many times that buying half a new squad doesn't always work,
This is another reason why United's stance is progressive, it's methodical and lacks the scatter gun approach from previous seasons.
If our first choice isn't available (Sancho) then we need to look to the second choice, but only if it will be of huge benefit to the team. Pointless buying a second choice of he won't bring a huge benefit to the team.
You mentioned the lack of a winning mentality in our fan base, yet you are worried about other clubs, that shows a fearful mentality not a winning mentality.
Just have patience and show a bit of faith in the club, things have changed alot since Moyes.
We shall see. The club must have money to spend because we were very clearly in for sancho. No way we weren't. So the money is there. Maybe not 200m but we are clearly ready to spend.
I wonder if we are just trying work out what we really can do given that we want sancho but maybe can't afford to do much else if we get him. Weighing up what benefits us more, sancho, or 3 other players that provide more depth. Like Grealish or vdb, a young cb and that Bournemouth player, who could cost about as much as sancho on his own.
I wonder if we are just trying work out what we really can do given that we want sancho but maybe can't afford to do much else if we get him. Weighing up what benefits us more, sancho, or 3 other players that provide more depth. Like Grealish or vdb, a young cb and that Bournemouth player, who could cost about as much as sancho on his own.
Like Di Maria defined our season, Like Sanchez defined our season, Like Lukaku defined our season, Like Dalot, etc etc as infinitum...
For every good transfer there's three bad ones.
The strange thing is there's very little info on outgoings too. Sanchez is gone and it looks like a matter of time before Smalling is too but nothing else seems to be happening.
So we shouldn't sign anyone then and when things don't work we can again blame the manager and call for him to be sacked. Rinse repeat cycle while the people in the club who are at the top pulling the strings can keep doing what they have been.
Yes, and those bad transfers did define our seasons: they are the reason why we're still nowhere near challenging for major honours and haven't been for seven years. "Not signing anyone is fine because we made lots of bad signings in the past" is a bizarre way of looking at it.
Understandable if we cant buy Sancho because of the pandemic. But we must have 100-80£ to spare why even discuss Sancho then. Use that cash to buy a CB and a mid, wouldnt be the perfect window but beats waiting for Sancho to happen next year.
Just wait until the spine of our team get injured and Ed sits there with his disgusted look on his face because our team goes to sh*t. His 'it's not my fault g'nor' look.
like Bruno Defined our Season
This is such a frustrating summer. The way this club is run is a total joke.
We are in for 3 players this summer. Sancho, LCB, Grealish.
We are 4 weeks into the window and no way closer to getting a signing.
If we think Sancho negotiations are long, wait until we start with Grealish.. same situation, then Villa will say, we cant get a replacement so sorry, can't have him.
We will end up panic buying Brooks for £40m.
We are in for 3 players this summer. Sancho, LCB, Grealish.
We are 4 weeks into the window and no way closer to getting a signing.
If we think Sancho negotiations are long, wait until we start with Grealish.. same situation, then Villa will say, we cant get a replacement so sorry, can't have him.
We will end up panic buying Brooks for £40m.
Jesus wept!!
Why are people so quick to judge.
I'm saying let's not go in with the scatter gun approach as not every signing works out,
Let the club be methodical and actually think about transfers, which is what they are doing.
Exactly,
Let's actually think about the signings and take our time like we did with Bruno.
Less scatter gun, more of a thoughtful approach and buy the players we need at a good price rather than for the sake of it at a high price.
Yes, It smells a lot like a club brief; if so, we are in trouble. We need to do "magic tactics" (ignoring that we actually won against most top 6 clubs) and improve Lingard, Jones and Pereira to have some depth and improve the medical facilities .
Please actually read my points above.
So many people on here seem to have their knives out and it's blinding their thought process.
Which is what you hope they are doing. We don't actually know.
Ah yeah, because an elite club wouldn't actually have plans in place!
It's actually churlish to suggest United don't have plans in place, when it's clear they do.
Do they always get it right? No, but it's clear the targets have been in place for a while.
You don't think about signings when the window opens, you have all year to do that. We are not in a position like Liverpool where you are set and only need to add one here and there if the right situation happens, we are like Chelsea, on the up but with big flaws that need addressing.
If we don't make significant signings not only is Ole thrown under the buss after a season of progression, like Mourinho, but it shows the club (Ed) to be incredibly incompetent compared to how other clubs have prepared this window.
Elite clubs have been doing panic buys and scattergun transfers since the dawn of time.
I'm sure there were tons of people in the summer of 2013 who were saying that "an elite club surely wouldn't wait until Fellaini's release clause expires and then sign him for 4m more?" - and yet we did just that.
It's been one month since the window opened, so people have right to question the board. People giving Covid excuses, well covid did not start in July so club should be ready to have alternatives plan ready if Sancho was or is too expensive for them. Even taking away chelsea and what other clubs are doing it is important we strengthen our personnel before the start of the season. We are not in a position where we sign Brooks and expect to look amazing.
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I never said we are thinking about signings during the window.
I actually stated that we had our targets a long time ago.
Why do people just think what chelsea signed are just going to walk in and make them winners again, why ? As we seen better player than bloody werner/chidwell go there and fail miserably, do people suddenly forget the Sheva's, Crespo's, Mutu's, Palmieri, Kepa, Morata etc ?
Why should they question the board?
They should maybe highlight the requirement to get at least two transfers done before the season starts, but I'm sure they are aware of that.
But to question whether the club has a plan, or to suggest that the club is inept is just plan daft right now.
If we are in this situation in three weeks time then yes, you have every right to maintain your stance, until then patience is what's needed.
Yup, and I'm sure we have learnt from our mistake in that summer, contrary to what people on here would believe or like to think.
A methodical approach is what we need right now.
Our targets yes, of course. Getting them here is the point and the criticism addressed at Ed and co. There is still time of course, just talking a "what if" scenario if we end up empty handed and throw another manager to the wolves because you know fans will not have anything other then progression next season, reinforcements or not.
And that just about sums it up perfectly.But why three weeks. Give or take in three weeks we will have our first game of the season. Logically you should have your squad ready before the first game of the season. To not be able to sign one player well before the season starts is a sign of them being inept. I hope they do sign one by end of next week (4th september). AT least then Ole and the player will have time to get adjusted to the squad.
Why does anyone sign anyone then? Weird logic.
Can’t wait to see Ole’s first press conference. It won’t be Jose but I expect some sort of pressure to be applied to Ed and the Glazers.
When is his first press conference?
I believe some of the squad is due back on September 2nd so very soon I suspect.
There's more of a chance of winning when you bring in quality players. That's normally how sports works don't know if you have seen.
Outgoings are just as important as new signings. It's hard to justify spending money on a new player when there's so many surplus to requirements just sitting on the bench and collecting wages.
Getting rid of Sanchez was a good start, but since then there's been no movement. I thought by now we would have seen Smalling sold and one or Lingard or Pereira. There's also the worry that we've gotten nowhere with with incomings so we're keeping these guys for squad depth.
Getting rid of Sanchez was a good start, but since then there's been no movement. I thought by now we would have seen Smalling sold and one or Lingard or Pereira. There's also the worry that we've gotten nowhere with with incomings so we're keeping these guys for squad depth.
It's an opinion piece.
If you're thinking 'well the author might know his shit'
He wrote this last year for The Athletic... (you'll like this)
"Lingard may be the best candidate for the Manchester United club captaincy. Comfortable playing in the midfield three, as a No. 10, a wide forward, or even as a false nine, no player in the Manchester United squad possesses the Englishman’s versatility or his talent for scoring on the big occasions"
Crespo one of the best finishers i have ever seen at Chelsea. Easily. He didnt really flop. He did alright. Re. our signings, i havent seen anyone say they will definitely make us winners again, but they improve us. Werner, Ziyech, Chilwell, Havertz maybe, thiago Silva is certainly improving our squad. Not a debate. And i dont even think we are finished.