Wot, no transfers? It's all happening now!

[RedNed77]

I'll be honest, I'll be disappointed if we finish up with VdB and Reguilon, even the Reguilon one (to me) seems more like Madrid trying to put pressure on Sevilla to put in a permanent transfer bid rather than just a renewed loan.

I appreciate we needed some depth, but we have two holes at CB and RW which don't look like they are going to be addressed. Its all gone very quiet. 11 days til our season starts and less than 4 weeks until the window closes, those dates are the same for Dortmund too, I assume our chances of Sancho become slimmer when they start their season and vanish entirely once we get within a week or two of the window closing. At what point does this become genuine concern?

 

[romufc]

We still have not addressed our main problem. RW.

We can do whatever we like this window, until we address the RW, we will not progress.

We are going into a season with Rashford Martial Greenwood as our only choices. Playing CL, PL when we know Rashford will get burnt out. Greenwood will be inconsistent. Martial cannot play 60 games up front on his own.

Our options if one is injured is Dan James, then Lingard and Mata if one needs a rest.

I know we shouldn't panic but we have seen what happens without Martial for few games. Why are we not looking to strengthen the attack?

We have 7 CB's in Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Smalling, Jones, Mengi and we want to sign another player in CB when we are short in numbers in attack.

We can get away with this defence, but there is no way we get away with that attack.

 

[youmeletsfly]

We still have not addressed our main problem. RW.

We can do whatever we like this window, until we address the RW, we will not progress.

We are going into a season with Rashford Martial Greenwood as our only choices. Playing CL, PL when we know Rashford will get burnt out. Greenwood will be inconsistent. Martial cannot play 60 games up front on his own.

Our options if one is injured is Dan James, then Lingard and Mata if one needs a rest.

I know we shouldn't panic but we have seen what happens without Martial for few games. Why are we not looking to strengthen the attack?

We have 7 CB's in Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Smalling, Jones, Mengi and we want to sign another player in CB when we are short in numbers in attack.

We can get away with this defence, but there is no way we get away with that attack.

We have 8 CB's, you missed Rojo.
If we don't sign an attacking player this window we're completely fecked.

 

[romufc]

We have 8 CB's, you missed Rojo.
If we don't sign an attacking player this window we're completely fecked.

Exactly. If we spend £30m on a CB, will they really be better than Bailly, Lindelof?

£30m winger e.g. Sarr would be better than Lingard, James for example.

Unless we start playing a 4-1-2-1-2 which is a formation with 2 strikers and 4 midfielders, I cannot see us doing well with the attack. This formation needs alot of coaching, which I do not think ole is capable of.

 

[The Irish Connection]

We still have not addressed our main problem. RW.

We can do whatever we like this window, until we address the RW, we will not progress.

We are going into a season with Rashford Martial Greenwood as our only choices. Playing CL, PL when we know Rashford will get burnt out. Greenwood will be inconsistent. Martial cannot play 60 games up front on his own.

Our options if one is injured is Dan James, then Lingard and Mata if one needs a rest.

I know we shouldn't panic but we have seen what happens without Martial for few games. Why are we not looking to strengthen the attack?

We have 7 CB's in Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Smalling, Jones, Mengi and we want to sign another player in CB when we are short in numbers in attack.

We can get away with this defence, but there is no way we get away with that attack.

All true, although greenwood is a bonus at least. But yeah, we should be shipping out 2 or 3 centre backs even for lower money and saving on wages while getting that right winger. Still time but getting close to the start now.

 

[romufc]

All true, although greenwood is a bonus at least. But yeah, we should be shipping out 2 or 3 centre backs even for lower money and saving on wages while getting that right winger. Still time but getting close to the start now.

He is a bonus but can you imagine the pressure we will be putting on him if he has a string of bad games?

We should not let a 18 year have to deal with that. We need to protect them from pressure, injuries etc.

 

[The Irish Connection]

He is a bonus but can you imagine the pressure we will be putting on him if he has a string of bad games?

We should not let a 18 year have to deal with that. We need to protect them from pressure, injuries etc.

I agree, signing a right winger would take pressure off the whole front 3 really, and we’d actually have a proper one in the squad.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

We still have not addressed our main problem. RW.

We can do whatever we like this window, until we address the RW, we will not progress.

We are going into a season with Rashford Martial Greenwood as our only choices. Playing CL, PL when we know Rashford will get burnt out. Greenwood will be inconsistent. Martial cannot play 60 games up front on his own.

Our options if one is injured is Dan James, then Lingard and Mata if one needs a rest.

I know we shouldn't panic but we have seen what happens without Martial for few games. Why are we not looking to strengthen the attack?

I agree.

Only, like with a game of poker, I will raise you.

I'd say to make any serious progression (3rd place and 3 semi's will take some beating with this squad and this schedule) then we would need two new forwards in that front 3.

Ighalo, I like as a fan. But if you're going to loan a player for 6-12 months to fill a gap, then you need someone like Henrik Larsson. A genuine threat. Solskjaer doesn't fancy Ighalo to come on and grab a goal, which he's proved time after time, so he cannot be considered a genuine option imo.

I also don't think we will get away with it defensively. I think a CB is a must if Smalling is being sold. Bailly will go off at the slightest bump, i'll be surprised if Tuanzebe is available much, Maguire won't play every minute again. It's the butt of jokes on twitter, but I seriously think McTominay will end up having to step in this season if we don't strengthen.

 

[romufc]

I agree.

Only, like with a game of poker, I will raise you.

I'd say to make any serious progression (3rd place and 3 semi's will take some beating with this squad and this schedule) then we would need two new forwards in that front 3.

Ighalo, I like as a fan. But if you're going to loan a player for 6-12 months to fill a gap, then you need someone like Henrik Larsson. A genuine threat. Solskjaer doesn't fancy Ighalo to come on and grab a goal, which he's proved time after time, so he cannot be considered a genuine option imo.

I also don't think we will get away with it defensively. I think a CB is a must if Smalling is being sold. Bailly will go off at the slightest bump, i'll be surprised if Tuanzebe is available much, Maguire won't play every minute again. It's the butt of jokes on twitter, but I seriously think McTominay will end up having to step in this season if we don't strengthen.

We need to win a trophy this season. Last season, we got away with playing a weak team in Europa until February and we still had injury issues in the league. Imagine having to play first team players in Europe and the league, no chance this squad can hack it.

Like you said, Ole showed he has 0 trust in the bench, well then he needs to be pushing for players to come in.

I know we need one more CB but it seems like CB or forward and if that is the case, I would rather go forward. If we dont score goals the defence is under more pressure to keep clean sheets, but if we are free scorers, we can outscore some teams.

Against the bigger teams, we will play counter attack anyway, so having men behind the ball making it tough.

 

[Keefy18]

We still have not addressed our main problem. RW.

We can do whatever we like this window, until we address the RW, we will not progress.

We are going into a season with Rashford Martial Greenwood as our only choices. Playing CL, PL when we know Rashford will get burnt out. Greenwood will be inconsistent. Martial cannot play 60 games up front on his own.

Our options if one is injured is Dan James, then Lingard and Mata if one needs a rest.

I know we shouldn't panic but we have seen what happens without Martial for few games. Why are we not looking to strengthen the attack?

We have 7 CB's in Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Smalling, Jones, Mengi and we want to sign another player in CB when we are short in numbers in attack.

We can get away with this defence, but there is no way we get away with that attack.

Well we are clearly trying to sign Sancho to address the RW issue and give us a little more depth.

We do also have Ighalo to give us another option at least til January.

I don't see the issue in our attack at all, we had arguably the best attacking front 3 in Europe last season with their goal involvement. Absolutely we need another option like Sancho I won't argue but our attack has looked very good.

Defence is still the issue for me and hopefully with 4 weeks to go we can still address that.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

We need to win a trophy this season. Last season, we got away with playing a weak team in Europa until February and we still had injury issues in the league. Imagine having to play first team players in Europe and the league, no chance this squad can hack it.

Like you said, Ole showed he has 0 trust in the bench, well then he needs to be pushing for players to come in.

I know we need one more CB but it seems like CB or forward and if that is the case, I would rather go forward. If we dont score goals the defence is under more pressure to keep clean sheets, but if we are free scorers, we can outscore some teams.

Against the bigger teams, we will play counter attack anyway, so having men behind the ball making it tough.

Ah okay, I understand better what you mean now.

Yes I agree. I'd much rather sign 2 forwards before even thinking about the defence. But hopefully we still get 3-4 players including a CB because that's what we'll need to have a better season than last season IMO

 

[croadyman]

Ah okay, I understand better what you mean now.

Yes I agree. I'd much rather sign 2 forwards before even thinking about the defence. But hopefully we still get 3-4 players including a CB because that's what we'll need to have a better season than last season IMO

Would like a CB but after the Upamecano links got squashed there has been absolutely nothing on that front

 

[red4ever 79]

What a boring predictable window so far.

 

[El-Manos]

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Here we go

We don't need transfers any way, it's a myth that transfers define your season.
Yaya Toure and David Silva did not define their 2010-2011 season, and signing Aguero the following season wasn't at all significant!!


Manchester United signing RVP at the beginning of 2012-2013 season also didn't define our season at all.


Someone got briefed again apparently

I agree, what a rubbish article. Absolute nonsense.

 

[El-Manos]

I’m starting to get pissed off. What a joke.

 

[VP89]

I agree, what a rubbish article. Absolute nonsense.

It's Carl Anka, so I'm not surprised.

 

[romufc]

Well we are clearly trying to sign Sancho to address the RW issue and give us a little more depth.

We do also have Ighalo to give us another option at least til January.

I don't see the issue in our attack at all, we had arguably the best attacking front 3 in Europe last season with their goal involvement. Absolutely we need another option like Sancho I won't argue but our attack has looked very good.

Defence is still the issue for me and hopefully with 4 weeks to go we can still address that.

It seems like the fans and media keep saying Sancho is priority in the same way Jack Grealish in January was a priority.. we moved on because of the cost.

I can see us moving on from Sancho now.

I agree our front 3 is very good but was it as good as we think? We played well against Bournemouth, SU and Brighton. Then we struggled against other opposition. I have no doubt they will score goals and look threatening. Rashford playing on an injury should tell you the story though, there is no backup.

We cannot go with Rashford, Martial, Greenwood playing them in the PL, CL, PL, CL week in week out. They will last 2 months before getting injured. We have seen that last season, players will get injured.

 

[AltiUn]

I’m starting to get pissed off. What a joke.

I've just accepted the inevitable at this point. We've briefed how "relaxed" we are all window, yet the season's creeping up on us and we've only managed to add one new player. For a team that struggled with injuries and depth the entirety of the last campaign you'd have thought we'd learned our lesson, apparently not. We've been down this road before, only one man is going to pay for the lack of investment and it certainly won't be Woodward.

 

[croadyman]

It seems like the fans and media keep saying Sancho is priority in the same way Jack Grealish in January was a priority.. we moved on because of the cost.

I can see us moving on from Sancho now.

I agree our front 3 is very good but was it as good as we think? We played well against Bournemouth, SU and Brighton. Then we struggled against other opposition. I have no doubt they will score goals and look threatening. Rashford playing on an injury should tell you the story though, there is no backup.

We cannot go with Rashford, Martial, Greenwood playing them in the PL, CL, PL, CL week in week out. They will last 2 months before getting injured. We have seen that last season, players will get injured.

I can see where you are coming from but convinced we would have had a lot more credible links to alternatives by now if that was the case

 

[Nou_Camp99]

If people could choose either Sancho and nobody else....... or VDB, Reguillon (or another left back), and a centre back. What would you pick?

No doubt that Sancho is the best player in that list but I think signing 3 good players over just 1 very good one hypothetically makes us a stronger team personally. And with the way Greenwood is developing it won't be a disaster not to get Sancho anyway. Greenwood for me might even go on to be a better player. 17 goals in a debut season with limited playing time is scary good.

 

[croadyman]

If people could choose either Sancho and nobody else....... or VDB, Reguillon (or another left back), and a centre back. What would you pick?

No doubt that Sancho is the best player in that list but I think signing 3 good players over just 1 very good one hypothetically makes us a stronger team personally. And with the way Greenwood is developing it won't be a disaster not to get Sancho anyway. Greenwood for me might even go on to be a better player. 17 goals in a debut season with limited playing time is scary good.

Depends if you could also throw something like Bale/Dembele on loan into that second option,if not I am definitely going for the first one

 

[romufc]

I can see where you are coming from but convinced we would have had a lot more credible links to alternatives by now if that was the case

And I get where the fans who are convinced he is coming are coming from too.

My concern is, if this backfires on us, it could ruin the whole season. The negativity in the fan base, the excuses that the manager isnt backed, everything.

Then we will go and panic buy, after coming out and saying we are relaxed in the window.

 

[romufc]

If people could choose either Sancho and nobody else....... or VDB, Reguillon (or another left back), and a centre back. What would you pick?

We have VDB already so, I would go for Sancho.

A LB would be good but CB wise which CB are we going to get? Not Upemacano, so who is left in the market that will be that much better than who we have?

Sancho, will be a massive upgrade to our front line, who else can we sign and say he will be a massive upgrade? No one.

Going into the season, say we lose Rashford in the 3rd week for 4 weeks, and then we will start with James, Martial, Greenwood who will have to play 90 mins every game.

With defence, if Lindelof is injured, Bailly comes in or Smalling. The drop of there is not the same level as Rashford to James or Martial to Ighalo.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Depends if you could also throw something like Bale/Dembele on loan into that second option,if not I am definitely going for the first one

So much better up top but same old issues elsewhere? You can kind of see my point then.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

We have VDB already so, I would go for Sancho.

A LB would be good but CB wise which CB are we going to get? Not Upemacano, so who is left in the market that will be that much better than who we have?

Sancho, will be a massive upgrade to our front line, who else can we sign and say he will be a massive upgrade? No one.

Going into the season, say we lose Rashford in the 3rd week for 4 weeks, and then we will start with James, Martial, Greenwood who will have to play 90 mins every game.

With defence, if Lindelof is injured, Bailly comes in or Smalling. The drop of there is not the same level as Rashford to James or Martial to Ighalo.

That's not part of the game. If you'e going to change the rules like that lets sign everyone ffs. Of course we'd want Sancho too as well as VDB.

But the fact we've got him in already and appear to be trying to get a LB in too then I'm thinking we might not have £108m left over mate.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Would like a CB but after the Upamecano links got squashed there has been absolutely nothing on that front

I don't think we'll get one either.

My only ray of hope is that there wasn't really anything in the VDB rumours 2 days before he was having his medical.

Also, there's always defensive bargains out there to be had. A 21 year old Harry Maguire was sold for £2.5m. Varane went to Madrid for £7m. A 23 year old Van Dijk joined Southampton for £13m. Barcelona got Lenglet for £27m.

Just hope United's scouting is as improved as we're told. Because there's someone out there now who'll be one of the best CB's in 4 seasons time who can be nabbed on the cheap and United need to start identifying them. Vidic was our last great defensive buy, wasn't he? Like 14 years ago now.

 

[romufc]

That's not part of the game. If you'e going to change the rules like that lets sign everyone ffs. Of course we'd want Sancho too as well as VDB.

But the fact we've got him in already and appear to be trying to get a LB in too then I'm thinking we might not have £108m left over mate.

Whoops. I would still have opted for Sancho tbf. We can get players in other positions in another window. I am not sure same can be said about Sancho.

I do agree that we do not have the money to get Sancho, more shall I say we don't want to spend the money.

We are a club with huge debt, we could always take the risk by adding another £100m to the debt for the club rather than for the Glazers. Interests on debt right now is so low, it would not kill the club in the short / medium or the long run considering how we are run.

 

[Keefy18]

It seems like the fans and media keep saying Sancho is priority in the same way Jack Grealish in January was a priority.. we moved on because of the cost.

I can see us moving on from Sancho now.

Possibly, but if we do so be it.

Sarr at Watford has been suggested a few times by supporters and wouldn't be a bad shout. I'm sure we've a few different options on the table anyway and our transfer business under Ole has been quite good thus far so I think he deserves our trust and patience for now.

I agree our front 3 is very good but was it as good as we think? We played well against Bournemouth, SU and Brighton. Then we struggled against other opposition. I have no doubt they will score goals and look threatening. Rashford playing on an injury should tell you the story though, there is no backup.

We cannot go with Rashford, Martial, Greenwood playing them in the PL, CL, PL, CL week in week out. They will last 2 months before getting injured. We have seen that last season, players will get injured.

Absolutely was as good as we think, it bettered Liverpool's front 3 in fairness.

I do agree we need some depth to rest tired legs alright and hopefully we can add to it with a RW. Not sure we will add another CF though with Ighalo here, that would be 6 players for 3 spots if we done that and I can't see it happening.

 

[croadyman]

I don't think we'll get one either.

My only ray of hope is that there wasn't really anything in the VDB rumours 2 days before he was having his medical.

Also, there's always defensive bargains out there to be had. A 21 year old Harry Maguire was sold for £2.5m. Varane went to Madrid for £7m. A 23 year old Van Dijk joined Southampton for £13m. Barcelona got Lenglet for £27m.

Just hope United's scouting is as improved as we're told. Because there's someone out there now who'll be one of the best CB's in 4 seasons time who can be nabbed on the cheap and United need to start identifying them. Vidic was our last great defensive buy, wasn't he? Like 14 years ago now.

Yeah but finding those players is not going to be easy in the little time that we have left

 

[romufc]

Possibly, but if we do so be it.

Sarr at Watford has been suggested a few times by supporters and wouldn't be a bad shout. I'm sure we've a few different options on the table anyway and our transfer business under Ole has been quite good thus far so I think he deserves our trust and patience for now.



Absolutely was as good as we think, it bettered Liverpool's front 3 in fairness.

I do agree we need some depth to rest tired legs alright and hopefully we can add to it with a RW. Not sure we will add another CF though with Ighalo here, that would be 6 players for 3 spots if we done that and I can't see it happening.

I will have patience until the window closes, then we can judge the window.

This is the problem with fans putting these stats without perspective. Liverpool's front 3 have been putting these numbers for 3 seasons in the PL and CL.

Our front 3 have only started together a dozen times? This was a purple patch, we have seen no form of consistency as a unit.

A RW should add quality and depth because Greenwood can play CF if required. James, Lingard, Mata can all do a job on the odd game here and there.

 

[Mr Smith]

I must admit, I am starting to worry about our lack of activity. Not expecting us to go mental like Chelsea, but in case some haven't noticed, the fixture list this season is fecked, and we need depth. Currently we're a single injury away from Ighalo or James starting regularly next season, which is making me quite nervous.

 

[croadyman]

I must admit, I am starting to worry about our lack of activity. Not expecting us to go mental like Chelsea, but in case some haven't noticed, the fixture list this season is fecked, and we need depth. Currently we're a single injury away from Ighalo or James starting regularly next season, which is making me quite nervous.

Yeah I never expected us to have a window like them because we aren't bankrolled by an oligarch and haven't just come off of a two window ban either

 

[Keefy18]

I will have patience until the window closes, then we can judge the window.

This is the problem with fans putting these stats without perspective. Liverpool's front 3 have been putting these numbers for 3 seasons in the PL and CL.

Our front 3 have only started together a dozen times? This was a purple patch, we have seen no form of consistency as a unit.

A RW should add quality and depth because Greenwood can play CF if required. James, Lingard, Mata can all do a job on the odd game here and there.

In fairness, Greenwood only debuted this season Martial found himself in a new CF spot and Rashford settled on the left wing.

The fact it was essentially their debut season as a trio and bested the more seasoned and settled PL champions front line bodes well for us.

We absolutely could do with a RW / CF option, something akin to what Sterling is for City and it gives us a little more depth.

I absolutely believe Mata, Periera and Lingard will all move on and our CM will be made up of games between Pogba, Bruno, Matic, McTominay & VDB... Seems to be some speculation about Fred moving on.

If we got RW and another CB to pair with Harry I'd be reasonably happy with the window, not sure it'd be enough to kick on and challenge though.

 

[Matthew84!]

I think we absolutely need Sancho, Rashford and Martial had their best season, none of us know if they'll repeat it plus greenwood is young, we don't want him playing too much yet, unfortunately i wouldn't be surprised for us to keep Rojo and Smalling as cover this season,

 

[romufc]

In fairness, Greenwood only debuted this season Martial found himself in a new CF spot and Rashford settled on the left wing.

The fact it was essentially their debut season as a trio and bested the more seasoned and settled PL champions front line bodes well for us.

We absolutely could do with a RW / CF option, something akin to what Sterling is for City and it gives us a little more depth.

I absolutely believe Mata, Periera and Lingard will all move on and our CM will be made up of games between Pogba, Bruno, Matic, McTominay & VDB... Seems to be some speculation about Fred moving on.

If we got RW and another CB to pair with Harry I'd be reasonably happy with the window, not sure it'd be enough to kick on and challenge though.

I do agree, it bodes well for us but in all fairness we have seen short burst of form from alot of players this season. I.E Rashford, Fred, McTominay, James and we need to judge them over a period of time.

But anyway, we agree that we need to get more depth which is what we should be focusing on right now.

 

[bcubed]

Does anyone else think that Woodward and Arnold (both Liverpoo fans) have their own agenda? Keep the revenues coming in, hence keeping their jobs, only to sink us to new depths faster than Souness sank Liverpoo

 

[Tony247]

Don't have hope for any impactful transfer now. Lets mentally prepare ourselves for another rollercoaster of a season.

 

[mitchmouse]

beginning to think Woodward takes as many holidays as Boris Johnson... another week and sod all news

 

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

Well, I'm calling it now. Unless we get two more players in before our first game then our transfer window has been very very poor. It is irrelevant to me if the transfer window has another month to go. Basic transfer planning should be to strengthen your squad (and first team) before a competitive match has been played so to maximise point potential as much as possible.

By the time the window closes we'll have played 3 PL matches. Nine points that could make or break our season come the end of the season.

 

[RedNed77]

Does anyone else think that Woodward and Arnold (both Liverpoo fans) have their own agenda? Keep the revenues coming in, hence keeping their jobs, only to sink us to new depths faster than Souness sank Liverpoo

Is this actually true? I thought Woodward was a Chelmsford fan as kid? Re Arnold no idea.?