Good point. Fred and McT looked excellent before the break, I'd have loved to see them start at least
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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Yepp, time will tell. Today I've realised even getting top 4 doesn't cement anything, it's far from it. How will Ole rotate next year if we end with CL and challenging on all 4 competition. Can he cope? A lot of questions still need to be asked, and a lot Ole still needs to prove.
Players are tired. But so all others in other clubs. And we didn't look good from the start. This was not just that fatigue. Game preparation was bad. You underestimate manager's influence in morale area.
Well I disagree, they may not be world class players but sure they should be good enough to be squad players, specially Fred. Or what do we want? a 25 man squad full of worldclass players? Our bench its not much worse than anyones bar City. Ole is managing the team as if we were in an injury crisis and he has no choice but to keep playing the same players over and over again. Zero squad managment.
He hasn’t got the balls to do that. He couldn’t even drop De Gea. So good looking looking for them to start.
If Ole gets top 4 in his first full season that will be a massive achievement. He has already shown more than enough to keep his job, so much so there is no debate to be had about it. He will be here next season. Could you imagine this forum the first couple of seasons of Fergie's first years in charge.
Poor luv!!! That's why he's inexplicably given the ball away against Soton and handballed a shot that was probably going over? Ridiculous defence
Then change him, can't blame only the players when the manager persist with the same players over and over again. Not performing? then sub him.
This is not a thing of Ole being let down, its more about Ole being carried by the same players in that patch. Specially carried by Bruno.
Rashford has been poor since the restart. Prior to that he had 3 month off.
Are you sure? You haven't read this thread after games that we don't win until next win?
If people come with right arguments then no problem but you can clearly see what lot of people write?
I have always said his game management is poor. It's something inherent. Either you have it or you don't. Today he should have taken Pogba off midway in the second half. He should have brought on Fred because he would give the energy.
I have to say regrettably I don't think we are going to beat Leicester.
He has taken us as far as he can.
I have to say regrettably I don't think we are going to beat Leicester.
He has taken us as far as he can.
Are there any arguments you will accept? I've seen very valid ones even from Ole-inners, so if you're not seeing them that means you can't accept any argument against Ole.
He has shown what exactly? Our points total in the league is embarrassing, getting TOP 4 with the squad like ours is not an achievement, it's a basic minimum that should be required from any manager FFS. I like the job he is doing with the squad building and the general atmosphere at the club but he is just clearly not a good enough manager.
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He did that v Southampton. It backfired and got shit for it
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Its a good thing that he has managed his squad so well over the past 13 league games, that we are unbeaten in, that we do not even need to beat Leicester to get top 4. Just a draw will do.
It would’ve changed things since then we could afford to lose against Leicester and still be above Chelsea if they fail to win one of their games.
It's not about giving him sympathy. It's a fact that the margins are very slim in top level sports.
Anyway, this is not a Pogba thread.
With the money spent, top 4 handed to us on a plate, Chelsea with a transfer ban, Spurs taking on Jose and falling apart, buying Leicester's 'best' player, and Arsenal being Arsenal the revisionism of Ole's reign this year is becoming annoying. Our points tally this year shows we are way off even competing for the league which should be our bread and butter, we will not compete with City or Pool with Ole in charge. How can anyone see Ole getting us to 90 points a season when he has struggled to get to the 60 mark?
No just players who are useful with the ball at their feet,
Fred & Mctominay are better off the ball than on it also neither are DMs so they don’t fit the way Ole wants to play. But Ole looks like he wants to turn Mctominay into Matic’s replacement.
Grealish would be a fine player to have on the beach, good on the ball and can play in different positions
You defended him so expect a retort
No idea why is this the reply to my post.
Agree on Grealish, and while Fred and Mctominay are not offensive players they for sure should be enough to be getting minutes when having Pogba and Bruno jogging on the pitch due to fatigue.
If we fail to qualify is 100% his fault. He didn't rotate at all, and he seems that he believes our squad have 11 players only. Imo, he has wrongly ditched Fred, who carried us for half the season.
This excuse is rubbish. We are behaving like we have championship players on the bench. Yes, we don't have quality on bench like City, Barca, Real and yes, we need few more quality players there but we have enough to rotate and beat most of teams against we played after restart.
His decision was to manage team like he did. He is a manager. He needs to find a way to rotate.
We get to third and the knives are outI'm baffled no big clubs are scouting the caf though, since we apparently have an abundance of top class managers here
The aim was top 4 - not top 4 with 80 points.
The state United have been in recent years means the end justifies the means at the moment.
Nobody can knock Ole if we secure top 4 - having already got rid of a lot of dead wood, made great signings and successfully brought in youth players.
We are heading in the right direction, after years of going in the wrong direction.
good to see you Ole outs, missed you these last several months.
I agree on the depth.
But after Southampton Ole got crucified for changing the midfield too early, so he can't win.
Don’t moan when we play exactly the same next season with Sancho and Grealish and your blaming players again.
I'm baffled no big clubs are scouting the caf though, since we apparently have an abundance of top class managers here
sure we played Bournemouth for 19 games and still maguire let 5 goals per game go past him
I'm baffled no big clubs are scouting the caf though, since we apparently have an abundance of top class managers here
If we play exactly the same as we did since january don't think anyone would moan
I know that and I know that we are going to have to rely on Chelsea losing their both remaining games as we are 100% losing against Leicester. I just don't think Ole is capable of getting us 80+ points, he is terrible at anything to do with actual management. I said a few times that I like his ideas about how our squad should look but I don't believe he is the man to actually win us something.
It's an easy mistake that I've made in the pastI actually did have a brain fart with that one
I wasn't taking away goals we'd conceded
As I've said.... you claim Pogba isn't tired. I said Pogba hasn't played all year then chucked in for 3 games a week for a month - top level sport has small margins, even a slight drop off makes a difference.
And once again, this isn't the Pogba thread. So if you want to moan about Pogba lets at least do it in the right place.
He should be given that chance if he gets top 4. That’ll be the real acid test of his management skills.
It will never happen. His teams are bloody clueless.
Agreed, he deserves that if gets us top 4.
Yawn. Very boring Ole in no matter what spinning a shite gutless performance at home against West Ham as great.
I'm baffled no big clubs are scouting the caf though, since we apparently have an abundance of top class managers here
I’d probably take half the caf over Ole so you’re right there
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