He was released from the club when he was sacked and I think was appointed as non-executive director of some sort a year later, not DoF.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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That would be so idiotic We are the worst we have ever been in recent history
He has nothing to say?? Come on.
If he was on the sideline he could of preventing that first goal at least last night.
I suppose its the difference between Klopp, Guardiola and Ole. Ole doesn't have the balls to roast the players during the game or give them other instructions when things aren't going our way.
It just shows how clueless he is. Ole would get the likes of Newcastle, West ham and Palace relegated if he was in charge of them.
That rod could be well and truly made by end of this month. He will be gone before Jose and it will be one thing I certainly won't bash Ed.
I agree, but unfortunately neither you or I are making this decision.
Woodward created so much of this mess by hiring him when he did. He's backed himself into a corner with a fanbase that can't stand him. There's no way he fires Ole until we're mathematically out of the CL race, IMO.
This is the recurring problem. A win against Everton and we get the ‘where’s the Ole out brigade now?’ when the answer has always been ‘just taking that usual one week of the month off out of politeness’.
Because it's the yardstick you choose to compare what he has done. Results have been the same since he's here. He has ups and lows, where the lows are really bad and ups are generally what should be expected from a team that pours hundreds of millions and has the players we have.
Fast forward 3 years since Jose - we have a talented team that obviously can play a lot better but the next manager still has to invest a lot to look like his team.
AWB is not someone an attacking manager would relish at RB. Maguire I'd argue is bad fit for high line and with time can be even worse when he begins to lose pace. James is championship level player. Bruno looks good, but I'd question the fit alongside our midfield and generally would be an issue for the next manager to get the best of him when it comes to implementing his own formation and style.
Again - we have won zero under him, grown ever more inconsistent and have another batch of players that the next manager can't/won't use to the full potential.
He has no tactical value and it was evident since day one - we rely on individual brilliance, we can't cope with low block and our strength is packed at the back and counter teams that want to take something from the game or want to play attacking football.
Pack it at the back like Lampard did it and you have dull game with us devoid of ideas..
Our defence is in shambles since the start of the season - we concede chances for fun. Our attacking game - again devoid of ideas and relying on individual brilliance. So where did he take us exactly?
We've got all our manager appointments since SAF wrong. I'd be open to Poch.
Most likely players knows he is getting sacked. May be that could be the reason their body language wasn't good during the match.
We are the only big club that's overly sentimental about changing managers probably because our most reigns of domination came under Busby and SAF, but lets be honest. If we sack Ole who is going to be giddy to sign him? It's nice he knows the club and all that, but how long are we going to cling to him for that reason?
and continue the pattern.
Who would be your choice if Ole was sacked?
I'll take the hit on this one!
Every single Man Utd fan when we lose in the exact same way as the last 200 games before that.
Every single Man Utd fan when we lose in the exact same way as the last 200 games before that.
Rose, Nagelsmann or possibly Hassenhutl. Don't really like Poch's football or him as a character, just never warmed to him honestly. I'd back him when he gets the job, and hope he proves me massively wrong though.
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I wouldn't mind Nagelsmann or Rose either.
We don't buy out managers sadly
May aswell continue the trend
Is this just a throwaway comment or has Woodward actually said it?
We have to keep moving, not persistenting with what's not working for far too long. Forget the romanticism, United are far too big to be 15th on the table.
Oh I'm not arguing with the fact a change is desperately needed, more the choice of Poch.
He's not good enough for the job and always was. He has been saved here and there by individuals but overall the performances have been poor. Lots of low and we are in the middle of this.
He's been failed by some players fitness or mentality but ultimately he's not good enough.
We all love him but we must put aside our feelings towards him. We killed Mourinho, but he didn't had such poor games/results, and when he did, he got sacked.
CL is already compromised with so many teams above us. He should get the sack, clueless Woody should appoint Pochetino before PSG signs him
He's been failed by some players fitness or mentality but ultimately he's not good enough.
We all love him but we must put aside our feelings towards him. We killed Mourinho, but he didn't had such poor games/results, and when he did, he got sacked.
CL is already compromised with so many teams above us. He should get the sack, clueless Woody should appoint Pochetino before PSG signs him
I’m sad to say I can’t see it working under Ole and on this basis it’s probably right he goes, and maybe retains a role in the background of the club
He has been a positive aspects in many respects and it would be nice to keep that around, but on the pitch it’s looking irretrievably bad.
It’s so frustrating because another managerial change will inevitably mean another year of transition. How much longer do we as a club are we looking at before we’re back to where we should be.
He has been a positive aspects in many respects and it would be nice to keep that around, but on the pitch it’s looking irretrievably bad.
It’s so frustrating because another managerial change will inevitably mean another year of transition. How much longer do we as a club are we looking at before we’re back to where we should be.
We had to pay off Molde for Ole. Admittedly he is the only manager we've recruited where we've had to compensate the old club but we have bought out a managers contract
He can do a Arry Redknapp and tell them to fecking run around at least.
Can you imagine how scary that is if its true? What it would say about this group of players and how self-serving they are? How our club is actually run?No manager can do anything with that.
He did get Cardiff relegated.
and then proceeded to see Cardiff in freefall in the Championship after significant summer investment to
He worked under a clown of an owner at Cardiff.
Never his fault..
Can't see the point of bringing in an inexperienced manager at this level who let's face it, hasn't done very well only to move him on to another job he hasn't any experience in. One of our biggest problems after SAF is bringing in complete novices in all departments and hoping they'll become good. United shouldn't be used as a training ground for novices. I don't think it's arrogance saying it but a club of Uniteds standing in world football should always be looking for the best with no sentiment involved at all and the way it's looking the less affiliation they have with the club the better.
The only other person that's been involved with United I would bring in would be Van Der Sar who seems like a very articulated, intelligent footballing person who has a lot of respect in the footballing world and I'm sure could open a lot more doors than someone like Ole could.
So provided we win against Everton you'd still be in favor of sacking a manager who is only 3 points behind top 4 and 6 points behind the leaders, with 31 games left to play? Yeah, that sounds reasonable..
We would have 10 points from 7 games so yeah I'd say it's reasonable. We also have played awful in nearly every game this season.
How many have we even played well in? 1 in the league and 2 in the champions league?
We don't create any chances. We are in free fall at the minute. He is lucky to even be getting the Everton game.
I dont understand why fans are reading too much into this.
When we were in bad shape last December they done the same. Men are a puppet for media briefs from United. Surprise surprise these briefs come after a loss when the fans are angry.
We as fans always fall into this. It happens with the DoF as well.
We need to wait until the board actually decide to sack Ole, which could be end of the season
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c.../man-united-news-mauricio-pochettino-17352916
When we were in bad shape last December they done the same. Men are a puppet for media briefs from United. Surprise surprise these briefs come after a loss when the fans are angry.
We as fans always fall into this. It happens with the DoF as well.
We need to wait until the board actually decide to sack Ole, which could be end of the season
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c.../man-united-news-mauricio-pochettino-17352916
So we could hypothetically be 1st, but if the points tally isn't satisfactory from a historic standpoint then it's 'bye bye'?
There's a Norwegian saying that goes something like this(paraphrasing): "it's only the final number on your receipt that matters". In the league, what matters is how good you are compared to your competitors in May. That's the beauty of it. We've had a very rough start, but it's way too early to conclude where we'll end up. Had we been more than 10 points behind top 4 with less than 20 games to play, then fair enough.
It's clearly put out there to gauge fan reactions though? It's purposefully done to see what fans think of Poch coming in.
Nov 2019 Poch wants United
Nov 2020 United want Poch
The only progress I see at the club right now
Ole in Ole out its coming to a end . For the Editor of the Manchester evening news to break that we have made contact with Poch then it's come from the club . He has direct links inside United so someone inside the club wanted this out .
Is it time for Ole to go maybe it is but when the does go I for one as a match going fan will love what he's done post Mourinho
Is it time for Ole to go maybe it is but when the does go I for one as a match going fan will love what he's done post Mourinho
Ah I'm sure he shoulders some of the blame.
You do know situations and circumstances can change things though. Just because we've done this or that in the past doesn't mean we'll operate the same at present. All we can do is wait and see what unfolds but I'd not at all be surprised if United pull the trigger now. It's really bad.
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