Gaming Xbox Series X|S

[Ainu]

Yeah right

Vast majority of people with a PS5 wanted it before they even knew anything about it.

You must've been in a coma for the last 2 years while everyone here slates everything to do with MS, including and especially the games you listed that are 'widely praised', Ori aside.

I mean cry me a fecking river mate, get a grip. Yeah sure, there are a number of PS fanboys on here that knock everything Xbox and get a hard on for everything on PS, but you seem incapable of looking past that and it seems to distort your reality. And it's not like you're not doing literally the same thing the other way around.

 

[VeevaVee]

Edit: why did you get rid of the review?

I know you’re trolling but you could at least try.

What are you on about? Because I pointed out that the the metacritic scores are because of the micro transactions? You can go and read them now yourself.

Or because you can't grasp that I didn't say the entire game was overrated?

 

[Bosws87]

Saw the riot and game pass announcement, different considering Riot are a pc only developer currently not sure how i feel about unlocking everything for people if they subscribe to game pass on free2play games which aren't even on Xbox.

 

[Massive Spanner]

What are you on about? Because I pointed out that the the metacritic scores are because of the micro transactions? You can go and read them now yourself.

Or because you can't grasp that I didn't say the entire game was overrated?

But it’s not overrated. I honestly don’t see how you can say it’s overrated when users haven’t received it well, micro transactions or not?

you made a comment about god of war saying ps exclusives are always overrated, then back tracked and went on a lil bitch tirade saying “oh nooo I wasn’t talking about god of war and saying THAT was overrated so you can’t say anything!”.

 

[VeevaVee]

I mean cry me a fecking river mate, get a grip. Yeah sure, there are a number of PS fanboys on here that knock everything Xbox and get a hard on for everything on PS, but you seem incapable of looking past that and it seems to distort your reality. And it's not like you're not doing literally the same thing the other way around.

What?

I just replied to what you were saying. Go be annoying and wrong somewhere else then

 

[Massive Spanner]

I actually agree with the overall point, people who favour one console tend to naturally over rate it’s exclusives, and there are more PS fans on here.

but god of war doesn’t fall into that category cause it’s awesome and Pc players loved it too.

the new Horizon on the other hand… feck that game.

 

[VeevaVee]

But it’s not overrated. I honestly don’t see how you can say it’s overrated when users haven’t received it well, micro transactions or not?

you made a comment about god of war saying ps exclusives are always overrated, then back tracked and went on a lil bitch tirade saying “oh nooo I wasn’t talking about god of war and saying THAT was overrated so you can’t say anything!”.

I didn't backtrack, I clarified it multiple times and you still can't accept it. If I thought that I'd continue making the case for it, as I'm doing for what I've actually said, not backtrack because Massive Spanner came along and said something Rein your ego in

 

[hobbers]

The problem with Gran Turismo, and it's a big one, is the racing. It's not even realistic for racing to be that dull.

Online the racing is passable, much better than anything you'll see in Forza 7 or Horizon. Offline it's the same though, you don't race the AI, they're just sort of there to be passed. They're all casual driving games not racing sims no matter what rubbish their devs trot out.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I didn't backtrack, I clarified it multiple times and you still can't accept it. If I thought that I'd continue making the case for it, as I'm doing for what I've actually said, not backtrack because Massive Spanner came along and said something Rein your ego in

You kinda did though.

but anyway, exciting times ahead. Bring on 2023.

 

[VeevaVee]

You kinda did though.

No, I really didn't. Why can't you accept it? I'll admit I could've worded it more clearly but I didn't expect anyone to go to town on one little thing.

 

[Vidyoyo]

That’s why I pointed out the user reviews, and not just on ps5, on pc too, which sort of disproves that people only love it cause it’s a Sony game. No? Especially as Pc players are notoriously hard to please!

that review actually makes some good points, I don’t really agree with them and I can see why he didn’t enjoy the game as much as others if they were things that genuinely pissed him off, for me personally though I didn’t really notice them nor did they detract from my enjoyment. But again that just depends on the gamer.

Edit: why did you get rid of the review?

They want the easy likes and rewards that come with agreeing to the circlejerk. It's a total conspiracy, just like Reddit!

But no, I dunno, it's clearly popular so I'm not sure what my point is anymore

 

[VeevaVee]

Online the racing is passable, much better than anything you'll see in Forza 7 or Horizon. Offline it's the same though, you don't race the AI, they're just sort of there to be passed. They're all casual driving games not racing sims no matter what rubbish their devs trot out.

Yeah. This is where racing games should really be stepping it up to be 'revolutionary' - the AI. I don't expect Forza M to be revolutionary, but first look does seem like it'll be more interesting than other racers.

 

[VeevaVee]

Anyway, back on planet normal for a minute... Guardians of the Galaxy on GP is good fun. Best once you've unlocked a load of the moves for your team. Combat can be quite fun, although does get a bit repetitive. Nice to play an old school linear game for a change, like others have said.

 

[Vidyoyo]

On another note as well, I've just learned this is coming to Gamepass in October and think it looks neat. Kinda visual novel. Kinda system shock

 

[Alock1]

Another one coming to Gamepass that I loved the look of. For anybody that's a fan of Justin Roiland (Rick & Morty), this looks good craic.

 

[caid]

I didn't like God of War that much either to be honest. Lots of nitpicks but mostly dont think the rest of the game lived up to the first hour.

 

[Alock1]

Okay I take it back. The Showcase was in 1080 looking at the Starfield demo in 4K if they can meet this quality I'm not only looking forward to Stargate in this engine but more than willing to see ES6 in it as well.

Looks miles better in 4k

Always said it'd be tough to please with this one but some of the takes are surprising.

Combat doesn't look as bad as I first thought either.

Overall package looks great.

 

[Klopper76]

Am I the only one who gets concerned any time Todd Howard is on stage talking about what’s going to be in a Bethesda game?

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

The biggest problem with Starfield is that it’s not Elder Scrolls. Do we really need another No Man Sky competitor, just bring out the next scrolls ffs.

 

[DixieDean]

Looks miles better in 4k

Always said it'd be tough to please with this one but some of the takes are surprising.

Combat doesn't look as bad as I first thought either.

Overall package looks great.

It does look good. My hype went up for this one. Not sure on the 1000 planets line, though. That seems overkill.

 

[Alock1]

It does look good. My hype went up for this one. Not sure on the 1000 planets line, though. That seems overkill.

As long as there's 10-20 well crafted planets which have life and soul and that's where the bulk of the story takes place, I'm down.

 

[Massive Spanner]

No, I really didn't. Why can't you accept it? I'll admit I could've worded it more clearly but I didn't expect anyone to go to town on one little thing.

fair enough if it's not what you meant, I was grumpy on a Sunday night!

 

[Massive Spanner]

As long as there's 10-20 well crafted planets which have life and soul and that's where the bulk of the story takes place, I'm down.

I really liked The Outer Worlds, but it lacked ambition. They basically went for Fallout in space, but space was just a few different areas on different planets in a game that was maybe 20-30 hours long, but it was definitely a good start. I think if Starfield can give that sort of fundamental Fallout-ey experience and add actual space elements (like the space combat) and proper open world, it'll be exactly what people wanted. The Outer Worlds was surprisingly polished on release, though, whereas this will probably be a buggy mess.

I don't care for the base building, though, feck that shit.

 

[VeevaVee]

fair enough if it's not what you meant, I was grumpy on a Sunday night!

Haha no worries.

I really liked The Outer Worlds, but it lacked ambition. They basically went for Fallout in space, but space was just a few different areas on different planets in a game that was maybe 20-30 hours long, but it was definitely a good start. I think if Starfield can give that sort of fundamental Fallout-ey experience and add actual space elements (like the space combat) and proper open world, it'll be exactly what people wanted. The Outer Worlds was surprisingly polished on release, though, whereas this will probably be a buggy mess.

I don't care for the base building, though, feck that shit.

I agree about Outer Worlds. It could’ve been great but was pretty lacklustre really. Felt very linear and like I was just going through the motions so I stopped playing as that’s not what that kind of game should be about.

It could be excellent, so hopefully the next one is better.

I love base building though. My base in Subnautica was insanely cool. It really needs the ability to show friends online though, and even build a base next to each other. I’d love if Starfield had that. NMS does to an extent but falls a little short.

 

[Attila]

Starfield doesn’t look very good. Disappointing

 

[El General 1994]

An 8/10 conference for me.

Go to bear in mind that it is the roadmap for the next 12 months. Of course we would have loved to see Hellblade 2, Avowed, Everwild and Perfect Dark.

Starfield looks fantastic to me. Happy.

Edit:

Also it will interesting to see what third party titles will drop on GamePass as well (next 12 months).

 

[VeevaVee]

Starfield looks fantastic to me. Happy.

Same, also happy with what I've seen, although it is way too early to tell much from.

People thinking it doesn't look good - I don't know what their expectations were but these games have always been great because of their depth, the world, the story, and the freedom to do what you want. Not because of how the combat looks, which is basically all we saw.

 

[largelyworried]

Starfield doesn’t look very good. Disappointing

Agreed. Combat looks very average & there wasn't much personality on show. The 1000 worlds thing also sounds like a bad idea right from the outset, you can't expect much in the way of curation with that many locations.

 

[Nickosaur]

Everything people are saying in regards to Starfield/general Bethesda criticisms are probably pretty accurate. But despite the flaws these games hook me in like nothing else.

Let's be honest, we'll all play the shit out of it, have a lot of fun, and it will go down as a major event of this generation, like Oblivion, FO3, Skyrim and FO4 before.

I don't think anyone should expect Starfield to be perfect or reinvent the RPG genre. But it's still going to be a blast.

 

[Vidyoyo]

Agreed. Combat looks very average & there wasn't much personality on show. The 1000 worlds thing also sounds like a bad idea right from the outset, you can't expect much in the way of curation with that many locations.

Not to be a dick but when did Fallout or Skyrim ever have good combat? It seems like a strange position to take, one many are, unless you're coming in with expectations of a different genre/style game..

For me it's far more worth considering/criticising how good the dialogue/characterisation will be after all the problems Fallout 4 had

People thinking it doesn't look good - I don't know what their expectations were but these games have always been great because of their depth, the world, the story, and the freedom to do what you want. Not because of how the combat looks, which is basically all we saw.

Basically this

 

[VeevaVee]

Everything people are saying in regards to Starfield/general Bethesda criticisms are probably pretty accurate. But despite the flaws these games hook me in like nothing else.

Let's be honest, we'll all play the shit out of it, have a lot of fun, and it will go down as a major event of this generation, like Oblivion, FO3, Skyrim and FO4 before.

I don't think anyone should expect Starfield to be perfect or reinvent the RPG genre. But it's still going to be a blast.

The thing is, if you looked at their past games, the ones that people have praised as some of the best games ever, they wouldn't look amazing in clips either if you didn't know any better, which you've essentially alluded to there. Yeah, it should be more impressive than those now, but there's a clear improvement in graphics, even if the animations aren't mind blowing. Hopefully other steps forward too.

Agree, the 1000 planets thing could be an issue, or it could be great. Lots of planets works for NMS as it adds to the sheer vastness and exploration, but also means they can be quite dull. I'll be interested to know what they do about that, if anything.

 

[largelyworried]

Not to be a dick but when did Fallout or Skyrim ever have good combat? It seems like a strange position to take, one many are, unless you're coming in with expectations of a different genre/style game..

For me it's far more worth considering/criticising how good the dialogue/characterisation will be after all the problems Fallout 4 had

Basically this

I mean, since those were flaws in games from 7 to 10 years ago, I think its fair for them to bring those elements up to speed if its going to be a GOTY contender.

 

[Alock1]

I mean, since those were flaws in games from 7 to 10 years ago, I think its fair for them to bring those elements up to speed if its going to be a GOTY contender.

Every game that has scale has flaws. Clearly its one of the most ambitious games coming out, and it can't be the best at everything to everyone.

Combat looks more than passable to me. Obviously it'd be much tighter in something like COD but there's not unlimited resources.

It's a fair criticism and reason to not like a game but there is definitely a focus on those 'could be improved' elements over the core elements the game is looking to deliver - scope and scale.

Not surprising since a lot of people on here don't have a system that can play the game, so would rather focus on the negatives than having FOMO.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Every game that has scale has flaws. Clearly its one of the most ambitious games coming out, and it can't be the best at everything to everyone.

Combat looks more than passable to me. Obviously it'd be much tighter in something like COD but there's not unlimited resources.

It's a fair criticism and reason to not like a game but there is definitely a focus on those 'could be improved' elements over the core elements the game is looking to deliver - scope and scale.

Not surprising since a lot of people on here don't have a system that can play the game, so would rather focus on the negatives than having FOMO.

I have two systems that can play it and I'm still wary after how poor Fallout 4 was and some of what I saw in the trailer. That said I'll still play it, cause gamepass, and it'll probably be a perfectly fine way to spend dozens of hours, so that's fine. I also would prefer it would more Bethesda of old than new.

 

[Alock1]

I have two systems that can play it and I'm still wary after how poor Fallout 4 was and some of what I saw in the trailer. That said I'll still play it, cause gamepass, and it'll probably be a perfectly fine way to spend dozens of hours, so that's fine. I also would prefer it would more Bethesda of old than new.

I said its a fair criticism and reason to not like it. Me, Veeva and others have already said the game needs to show the vast scale isn't dull and lifeless and said the combat isnt great / looks passable.

Just saying, the perception is largely weighted to the negatives here despite them showing some really cool stuff, which I'm certain is aggravated because a lot of people won't be able to access it anyway (like every other big exclusive). People who haven't liked Bethesda games in the past, or lost some trust after recent games then fair enough. But there are also people that would have told you Besthesda games are their favourite ever franchises for their scale and world building, who are now not interested in Starfield because of poor gunplay.

 

[Bebe]

Diablo 4 will be coming to PS5/PC mate, not exclusive to Xbox. So you can cross that off too

And yet, Series X's were in stock yesterday and I made the impulse purchase

 

[largelyworried]

Every game that has scale has flaws. Clearly its one of the most ambitious games coming out, and it can't be the best at everything to everyone.

Combat looks more than passable to me. Obviously it'd be much tighter in something like COD but there's not unlimited resources.

It's a fair criticism and reason to not like a game but there is definitely a focus on those 'could be improved' elements over the core elements the game is looking to deliver - scope and scale.

Not surprising since a lot of people on here don't have a system that can play the game, so would rather focus on the negatives than having FOMO.

I'm not suggesting that has to be the best at everything to everyone, or have shooting mechanics as tight as a dedicated shooter, that's just a strawman. But even for a game with multiple mechanics, each element of that game has to have at least a decent minimum standard for the overall game to stand out - weakest link in the chain etc.

Besides, I also said I thought it lacked personality & that the 1000 worlds thing feels like a bad idea, its not like combat was my only reservation.

 

[BristolRuss]

Forza is looking amazing as per usual.

 

[Alock1]

I'm not suggesting that has to be the best at everything to everyone, or have shooting mechanics as tight as a dedicated shooter, that's just a strawman. But even for a game with multiple mechanics, each element of that game has to have at least a decent minimum standard for the overall game to stand out - weakest link in the chain etc.

Besides, I also said I thought it lacked personality & that the 1000 worlds thing feels like a bad idea, its not like combat was my only reservation.

Wasn't just aimed at you.

The 1000 worlds feels mostly a marketing tool. I fully expect that there is 10-20 carefully curated worlds where the story mainly takes place. Busy work collecting resources might be from those 1000 worlds but hopefully it's fairly optional/doesn't require lots of time.

Said earlier in the thread but the worst thing about Cyberpunk for me was that the world didn't feel dynamic or lived in enough, with some of the open world elements feeling a few gens old (cars spawning/disappearing in front of you or sat still until you drive towards them) so totally agree with that reservation.

 

[Alock1]

And yet, Series X's were in stock yesterday and I made the impulse purchase

Nice! You won't regret it.

Research the 3 years Gamepass for £121 trick - buy 3 years of gold at £40 each and redeem on your account, then buy 1 month of gamepass on dashboard and it should convert 3 years live to 3 years gamepass.

Even if the £1 sub option isn't there, one month at £11 should also work.