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Yanks kill Saddam´s sons
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Looks like it actually happened. 
Excellent
It must come as a huge relief to most Iraqis - & a great fillip for the embittered & battered Bush Admin!
Still doesn't hide the fact that the Admin 'sexed up' already misleading info to invade Iraq, but shhhh - don't tell it to Americans with short memories!
Still doesn't hide the fact that the Admin 'sexed up' already misleading info to invade Iraq, but shhhh - don't tell it to Americans with short memories!
with this news the Niger's uranium and the scientist death will go up in smoke pretty shortly <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> hopefully not
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Looks like it actually happened.
And it is a GREAT day for world history! The celebration in Baghdad was clear and distinct with US forces and Iraqi's firing their weapons in the air and celebrating in the streets within hours of the confirmation and photos distributed by the coalition forces to all of Iraq! Their father is soon to meet his demise, given that an Iraqi citizen who will collect a $15 Million reward alerted US troops to the fact that Hussein's sons were at the villa. There is still a $25 Million USD reward on Hussein's head. It took years to confirm Hitlers death. So far, the war in Iraq has lasted just 4 months! Have patience.
Meanwhile, the US uncovered yet another mass grave of 400 Iraqi women and children in Northern Iraq which brings to over 300,000 confirmed mass murders by the son of a bitch who hides awaiting his death or capture!
Well done yanks. It may not be appreciated that the army paying the blood price is US and British, but hopefully this will nudge some quarters into giving you the credit you deserve.
Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>Well done yanks. It may not be appreciated that the army paying the blood price is US and British, but hopefully this will nudge some quarters into giving you the credit you deserve.</strong><hr></blockquote>
True to an extent - though not for want of trying - the US as you should know, have wanted other countries to involve their troops to police post-war Iraq to very little avail so far - kind of spread the 'burden' around without actually wanting to give up control.
The world will not miss these two bastards.
Weapons of Mass Destruction each one.
I just pray that the innocent souls they destroyed are happy now - happy that depsite the selfish and self pitying rantings of the anti-war mob - that their surviving loved ones will no longer fear the sound of Uday's power drill.
Weapons of Mass Destruction each one.
I just pray that the innocent souls they destroyed are happy now - happy that depsite the selfish and self pitying rantings of the anti-war mob - that their surviving loved ones will no longer fear the sound of Uday's power drill.
They should've surrounded them, and made 'em surrender IMO
anyways, someone is $30Mil richer!!
anyways, someone is $30Mil richer!!
Originally posted by Paz:
<strong>They should've surrounded them, and made 'em surrender IMO
It's probably a better solution that they were killed. If they were captured, they might provide valuable information. But who would try them? Some European leaders wanted Saddam and his sons tried by an international war crimes tribunal in The Hague but don't want them to face the death penalty. Some US officials wanted the US to try them in a military court where they could be tried and possibly executed. Others think that the Iraqis should get them, and the provisional government created a war crimes tribunal last week. Since they brutalized the Iraqi people, I think that the Iraqis should decide.
It would have been a mess though and gone on for a long time.
Originally posted by Paz:
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anyways, someone is $30Mil richer!!
US$30 mil richer, witness protection programme, new life in the USA where there was no future in Iraq - some people are born lucky!
A colleague told me he saw the Beeb & a BBC journalist was questioning the US general as to why, besides more than 100 US troops, grenade launchers, humvees & rockets, Delta helis were used to capture 4 held-up people, of which one turned out to be a 14 year old?
It seems the general was upset & refused to answer him, so it must be concluded that the intention was to execute the people rather than capture them.
The question therefore must be asked:
Was there an intention to execute the 4 rather than capture them?
If so - what was the logic behind the thinking?
It seems the general was upset & refused to answer him, so it must be concluded that the intention was to execute the people rather than capture them.
The question therefore must be asked:
Was there an intention to execute the 4 rather than capture them?
If so - what was the logic behind the thinking?
Apparently Mustafa Hussain, SH's 14-year old grandson fought on after the three adults in the house had already been killed.
CNN showing photos of bodies of Uday and Qusay,,,,,
thoes photos r disgusting..
thoes photos r disgusting..
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3093637.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3093637.stm</a>
wasnt it against the geneve convention when the iraqis showed pictures of dead yanks?
wasnt it against the geneve convention when the iraqis showed pictures of dead yanks?
Short-sightedness on Rumsfeld's part - besides the questionable breach of UN Conventions ( future enemies of the US will start showing pics of dead American soldiers & claim, 'If the US can do it, so can we!"), the photos were accompanied by comments that the 2 dead men's photos didn't look like the brothers because they were in disguise, which most of us would not have known if they hadn't published them!
It'll create more sceptics, fuel the blood of pro-Saddam factions who'll want to seek revenge, disgust many decent Iraqis & neutrals....
Better to have just announced the deaths without the accompanying photos.
It'll create more sceptics, fuel the blood of pro-Saddam factions who'll want to seek revenge, disgust many decent Iraqis & neutrals....
Better to have just announced the deaths without the accompanying photos.
The decision to show the photp's is obviously wrong. there must be somebody in Iraq who has the trust of the majority who could identify the bodies and let the population know that they are dead. Not every body will believe him but from the photo's I have seen I couldn't say it was Saddam's two sons so questions would remain either way. Smacks to me of Rumsfeld showboating to the world.
Since when is it legal to shoot criminals instead of giving them a proper trial, btw?
kkcbl if as reported one of them apparently committed suicide then I don't believe there is any way they would have surrendered. Your comment about three men and a BABY is also bending the truth a bit IMO.
I have no problem with the military action that took place, the events afterwards though do concern me.
I have no problem with the military action that took place, the events afterwards though do concern me.
Good news.Its nice to get rid of criminals instead of instead of giving them a trial.But
who armed Saddam and who was responsible for the sufferings of the Iraqi people? Grave with 400 Iraqi women and children:It makes me sick.They alone are not the culprits.The double standards followed by Yanks and other Eroupean nations to promote a dictatorship for their personal gains are responsible for mass graves in Iraq.It dosent take an expert to figure that out isnt it?
who armed Saddam and who was responsible for the sufferings of the Iraqi people? Grave with 400 Iraqi women and children:It makes me sick.They alone are not the culprits.The double standards followed by Yanks and other Eroupean nations to promote a dictatorship for their personal gains are responsible for mass graves in Iraq.It dosent take an expert to figure that out isnt it?
Im sorry but when some nutters are shooting at you with the intention to kill, the the US army is entitled to shoot back to kill.
My only surprise is that it took so much hardware to kill 4 people.
My only surprise is that it took so much hardware to kill 4 people.
Yanks to Muslims: We killed Saddam's sons.
Muslims to Yanks: We don't believe you, they're covered in beard.
Yanks to Muslims: We killed Saddam's sons and shaved their beards so you can recognize them.
Muslims to Yanks: This is not acceptable, it's not recognized in the Muslim law to shave the bodies!
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Muslims to Yanks: We don't believe you, they're covered in beard.
Yanks to Muslims: We killed Saddam's sons and shaved their beards so you can recognize them.
Muslims to Yanks: This is not acceptable, it's not recognized in the Muslim law to shave the bodies!
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Another three yanks killed today North of Baghdad. A total of 8 in 90 hours since the assassination.
I think that once SH has been cought/killed things will get worse for the yanks. More people will join the resistance since it will be impossible for them to be branded as people who want the Hussains to return.
Also, for themselves, they don't have to fear they may somehow help the family to come back to power.
I think that once SH has been cought/killed things will get worse for the yanks. More people will join the resistance since it will be impossible for them to be branded as people who want the Hussains to return.
Also, for themselves, they don't have to fear they may somehow help the family to come back to power.
The fact they were shown isn't unacceptable. It's fairly common, actually. I remember those pictures of Ceaucescu after he had been executed during the uprising in Rumania in the late 80s.
But what happened after the initial showing was a shambles. I wonder how furious the Yanks will be when (not if) one of their soldiers gets killed and put on show.
But what happened after the initial showing was a shambles. I wonder how furious the Yanks will be when (not if) one of their soldiers gets killed and put on show.
Originally posted by ManUinOz:
<strong>kkcbl if as reported one of them apparently committed suicide then I don't believe there is any way they would have surrendered. Your comment about three men and a BABY is also bending the truth a bit IMO.
I have no problem with the military action that took place, the events afterwards though do concern me.</strong><hr></blockquote>
'3 men & a baby' was a 'tongue in cheek' play of words after that movie - I apologise if it didn't go down well with you.
If they were prepared to commit suicide, then I agree that there wasn't much that could be done - question is in any situation like this, where there's more to it than just going in, guns ablazing, the wisdom of the US action would be seen by the aftermath - Rumsfeld was confident his 'gung-ho' approach would frighten off the brothers' supporters & lead to a safer Iraq - let's start counting the bodies of US troop post-Uday & Brother to see whether he was right!