Ljajic Watch

[DevilRed]

Well can't say the Serie A doesn't have its fair share of nutcase coaches. Most of them are serial liars like mancini. Wasn't too long ago that ancelotti would smoke cigarrettes in the dugout such is the audacity of italian football.

The manager was rightly fired for putting his hands on lljaic in that fashion. Although im sure SAF has done his fair bit behind closed doors in the past.

 

[Walrus]

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

 

[dev1l]

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

Yet another big talent with an attitude problem..

 

[Antisocial]

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

Indeed; it that were the case then it makes a lot more sense than any of the other reasons that was floated at the time we pulled the plug.

 

[JustAFan]

Does seem that United may be vindicated on this one... Nobody could understand why we ended up not signing him (including me) but now it does appear that we knew what we were doing and that Ljajic was a loose cannon.

It came down to the work permit, in an article a month or so after even Ljajic said he could not get the working papers.

 

[CLK_FPC]

Wishful thinking in this case. There is little doubt this lad is a special talent with the right type of attitude to boot. Only injury or Rafa Benitez can stall his development.

My only regret is he could have been a start for us. But us not keeping him has given a chance to the likes of Obertan, Cleverly, Petrucci and Eikrem maybe even Bebe to be just that for us. That's some reasonable consolation right there.

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That hindsight thing is a bitch

Seriously I never really had an opinion, remember people saying we turfed him in favour of the likes of Cleverley etc.

When Ljajic was playing well in Jovetic's absence I thought perhaps we missed out but even then he wasn't setting the world alight.

Pretty sure Ljajic was forgotten at the start of the season when Clev was doing well. It's the nature of such things.

I don't think this situation vindicates our decision not to sign him but the fact he hasn't gone kicked on SO FAR is a little more comforting considering some expected he would be the Serbian Messi and we would have egg on our faces.

 

[Ekeke]

As someone who doesnt really watch them (except maybe in european competition sometimes) Fiorentina seem a really weird team to me. They always seem to have a couple of highly rated young players and one or two strong players at the current time... Yet they never seem to be challenging for the top places. Sometimes I check on them and they're mid table. Do they always have some really weak positions holding them back or something?

 

[Sarni]

As someone who doesnt really watch them (except maybe in european competition sometimes) Fiorentina seem a really weird team to me. They always seem to have a couple of highly rated young players and one or two strong players at the current time... Yet they never seem to be challenging for the top places. Sometimes I check on them and they're mid table. Do they always have some really weak positions holding them back or something?

Serie A is a very even league with plenty of good but no top class teams. You got Milan, Juventus, Inter, Roma, Lazio, Napoli and Udinese who are very good and occasionally the likes of Genoa, Fiorentina, Palermo etc. join them at the top. Fiorentina were 4th in 2009 and went through in the CL eliminating Liverpool, they were very unlucky to lose against Bayern in knock-out round. They were also 4th in 2008. Trouble is they never reached the same heights after 09-10.

 

[Ekeke]

Yeah I remember watching both games as we were being linked with Jovetic. Thats why I'm usually surprised when I see them so far off the pace

 

[Neutral]

Ex-Fiorentina boss Delio Rossi apologises for attacking player

Sacked Fiorentina manager Delio Rossi has apologised for his behaviour after physically attacking one of his own players.

The 51-year-old went into the dug-out and threw punches at Adem Ljajic after the midfielder sarcastically applauded the decision to substitute him.

"I've made a mistake and I will pay for it," said Rossi. "My gesture was ugly, disgraceful and I am very saddened.

"I have never allowed myself to hit anyone, not even my children."
Delio Rossi

Rossi appeared to punch Ljajic in retaliation for his taunt

Rossi was dismissed by club president Andrea Della Valle immediately after Wednesday's game and banned for three months by the Italian Football League.

At a news conference to mark his departure, he apologised but sought to explain his actions.

"I don't compromise on certain issues," he said. "I want respect for myself, for my work, for the team I coach and for my family. These issues were raised.

"I have never said that I am a saint but you can ask the children and all the players that I have coached in the past what type of person I am."

Rossi has been replaced by team manager Vincenzo Guerini until the end of the season.

He inherits a side in 15th position, six points above the drop zone, needing a point from their remaining two games to guarantee safety from relegation.

"The job is almost done," added Rossi. "I ask the fans to be close to the players and to the Della Valle family."

He's apologized - sort of.

 

[DFreshKing]

Is he Messi yet?

The drama around this player on here a few years ago was utter madness.

Probably the funniest time on the Cafe (football wise at least)

 

[Black Adder]

I've read somewhere (can't find it) that he hasn't played once this season for full 90 minutes, either he comes from the bench or he's substituted in case he played from the start.

That's really poor statistic if true, his attitude could cost him nice career since talent is there just head isn't right obviously.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

A friend of mine (Fiorentina fan) has heard that Ljajic has said to Rossi "We'll go to Serie B because of you", i don't know if it's true but it wasn't the first trouble between both and it wasn't Ljajic's first problem with a coach.

I'm really happy that he was never a Manchester United player if it's true what the friend of mine has said to me, Ljajic thinks he's too good for Fiorentina, training isn't important for him, the fans hate him, he loves night clubs ...........

 

[Neutral]

Is he Messi yet?

The drama around this player on here a few years ago was utter madness.

Probably the funniest time on the Cafe (football wise at least)

Be fair - I didn't get too involved in the Ljajic saga...but you can't blame people for getting a little upset. We were told by Fergie and United, we were signing one of the brightest talents in Europe - hell, that we even signed another guy to help him settle in(tosic). We were supposedly in constant touch, kept tabs on this kid...he posed with Fergie, and it was only a matter of time, before he came over.

Not to mention this transfer was supposed to be fairly big - 10mil for a 17/18 year old.

And then out of the blue, the whole deal was off - with not much of an explanation, other than we've decided to not pursue the option we had to sign him. All this when even a month before that announcement, the word was, he was coming to England.

 

[7even]

I'm really happy that he was never a Manchester United player if it's true what the friend of mine has said to me, Ljajic thinks he's too good for Fiorentina, training isn't important for him, the fans hate him, he loves night clubs ...........

I trust Fergie in this. Off course he recieved some sort of late information of his character and attitude that they couldn't go public with and whatever happened in Fiorentina confirms that this decision was the right one.

 

[Orton]

I trust Fergie in this. Off course he recieved some sort of late information of his character and attitude that they couldn't go public with and whatever happened in Fiorentina confirms that this decision was the right one.

I dont believe that one bit.

 

[mufcwarm92]

A lot of people with egg on their faces after going mental at not signing this kid. Pretty pathetic when you consider about 95% of us had never seen him play.

 

[Kevin]

Let's not claim 'victory' just yet. He is 20 years old. One of our star players has done a mongish thing or two at that age.

If he can grow up and becomes class in a few years, the eggs will end up on the other end of the fence.

 

[Brophs]

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

 

[Randall Flagg]

He appears to be a troublemaker.

Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either

Fergie knows best?

 

[SecondFig]

I was one of those who just couldn't understand our pulling out of signing him - in retrospect I simply assume Fergie and the coaches decided his attitude was awful and pulled the plug.

One of these days I'll learn not to question SAF

 

[SecondFig]

He appears to be a troublemaker.

Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either

Fergie knows best?

Tosic has been decent - scored some absolutely cracking goals. Not sure he'd have ever been good enough for us, but he's hardly flopped.

My main regret is that I reckon his free-kicks are comfortably better than anyone in our first team squad right now

 

[Solius]

Fergie was right again.

 

[Brophs]

No one knows whether Fergie was right because no one knows the reason he didn't go through with the deal (unless the explanation given is true, of course).

 

[Kraftwerker]

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

Imagine they imposed this rule on England.

One man team:

 

[Trionz]

Apparently he's been dropped from the Serbian national team as he wouldn't sing the national anthem.

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

 

[Brophs]

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

I don't know, tbh. The first thing that occurred to me was that Mihajlovic has connections to Fiorentina, so perhaps it was influenced by the kerfuffle at the end of the season?

 

[Baxter]

None of the Scottish team would be getting games, if this "rule" was here.

 

[ILBB15]

Why is not singing such a huge problem that he is dropped?

The manager Sinisa Mihajlovic requested that anyone who wants to play for the national team has to sing the anthem or you won't be called up. Everybody who was called up to the squad for the next three friendlies agreed, including Ljajic.

He didn't sing the anthem and has been dropped.

Irrespective of wether it's right or wrong of the manager to force his players to sing the anthem, it's another example of Ljajic's shit attitude. He agrees to do something and he gets to play in the starting XI against Spain and then he completely disrespects the manager who has given him a chance even though the way he has played doesn't warrant a place in the national team.

He's basically a spoiled brat with a shit attitude and his agent has probably convinced him that he's some kind of superstar ever since playing for Partizan.

 

[Solius]

A newbie asked me to post this

Hello,
I would appreciate if you could post this into the Ljajic thread, as it would clear up some things:

The reason why Mihajlovic wanted the players to sing the anthem is that he wants to create an atmosphere of unity and patriotism among the players of the national team.

The reason why Ljajic refused to sing the anthem is that he isn't a Serb, but a Bosnian. He comes from a majority-Bosnian region in southwest Serbia, and the majority of people from that region want not to be a part of Serbia anymore, and don't really feel Serbia as their country.

Even if this isn't the case with Ljajic, the fact is that the anthem is Orthodox-Christian oriented, and a Bosnian Muslim could hardly sing the anthem with any kind of loyalty and positive emotions.

Don't forget that this area of the world was a venue of a horrible war not that long ago, a war caused by people not being able to tolerate other nationalities and religions.

I'm sure that Ljajic would've been seen as a traitor by most of his family and friends had he sung the anthem.

For all those reasons, I don't think that this is any additional evidence for his shit attitude. I am far from being a fan of his, but I don't think he is to blame in this particular instance.

 

[Amar__]

Yes, that's the reason probably, but I don't understand why didn't he picked Bosnia as his team in first place if the main reason is religion.

 

[Orton]

But lets jump to conclusions that he's a little shit trying to cause problems in the camp, yet again!

 

[Nani Nana]

Yes, that's the reason probably, but I don't understand why didn't he picked Bosnia as his team in first place if the main reason is religion.

or Turkey ? let's go back to the roots

Complete twat, Mihajlovic names him in his squad despite the turmoil he's in at Fiorentina, he even fields him in the starting 11 against Spain and Ljajic fails to respect the one condition put forth by Mihajlovic to be in national team, ie. singing a fecking song.

Well done Ljajic, big thanks from all the Serbs who defended you throughout the years. Shows you how indoctrinated some people are, at a young age

 

[Sir A1ex]

Yes, that's the reason probably, but I don't understand why didn't he picked Bosnia as his team in first place if the main reason is religion.

Because you don't just get to chose which country you play for?

Surprised by all the bandwagon jumping on his "shit attitude". Deliberately not singing the anthem is much more luikely to be a stand for something you strongly feel than some kind of spoiled prima-donna bollocks - espeically in a part of the world as sensietive as that.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Because you don't just get to chose which country you play for?

Surprised by all the bandwagon jumping on his "shit attitude". Deliberately not singing the anthem is much more luikely to be a stand for something you strongly feel than some kind of spoiled prima-donna bollocks - espeically in a part of the world as sensietive as that.

Lots of footballers have a choice of a number of different countries to represent.

 

[Amar__]

Because you don't just get to chose which country you play for?

Sometimes you can choose. I thing he could choose Serbia over Bosnia few years ago.

or Turkey ? let's go back to the roots

Or Saudi Arabia. Don't be fool, you know why I said Bosnia.

 

[ILBB15]

First of all, Ljajic isn't Bosnian and there's no Bosnian majority in southwest-Serbia. Bosnians are people from Bosnia and they can be either Bosniaks, Croats or Serbs.

Ljajic belongs to the Bosniak population of Serbia (or Muslim by nationality, you can declare both).

He is the one who's ultimately at fault for this whole situation because f he was so determined not to sing the anthem of Serbia that gloryfies Serbs (shock horror) then he shouldn't have agreed to Mihajlovic's request in the first place.

This whole episode was just plain and simple shit-stirring.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Strange request from Mihailovic, mind you.

 

[Nani Nana]

Strange request from Mihailovic, mind you.

Nothing strange in that, Laurent Blanc did the same when he took over the French team

 

[Ekeke]

He appears to be a troublemaker.

Tosic hasnt exactly amounted to much either

Fergie knows best?

If he knew best we wouldnt have signed Tosic in the first place or taken Ljajic to train with the United players every few months, bigging him up as if he's going to be one of our best players in the future.

He does seem to be causing trouble, but some might say thats only started happening since we messed about with him.