JakeC
Last Man Standing 2 champion 2020/21
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A team in the UAE are after him, they like their horse over there.And Yakubu. Owen won't leave England. He loves his horses. Stoke would be a decent move.
A team in the UAE are after him, they like their horse over there.And Yakubu. Owen won't leave England. He loves his horses. Stoke would be a decent move.
I dont see it myselfHe's obviously still a Premier League standard player and he's right to assert it - he'd be a good addition to most squads in the premier league
well last season he scored 3 in 4 appearancesI dont see it myself
How many in the Premier League?well last season he scored 3 in 4 appearances If he gets a bit of luck he could do a decent job and maybe get 15/20 games for a team like Sunderland/Villa/etc
He could also be a good impact sub for most teams
The injuries may have destroyed his explosive pace but he can still finish
Against Leeds United and Aldershot Town, not Premier League level...well last season he scored 3 in 4 appearances
0 goals in 1 appearanceHow many in the Premier League?
You can only score when you play amigoAgainst Leeds United and Aldershot Town, not Premier League level...
You only play if you're good enough and fit.You can only score when you play amigo
I take your point about fitness but Berbatov could barely get a start last seasonYou only play if you're good enough and fit.
I actually don't rate his finishing. It's his positioning that's excellent.well last season he scored 3 in 4 appearances
If he gets a bit of luck he could do a decent job and maybe get 15/20 games for a team like Sunderland/Villa/etc
He could also be a good impact sub for most teams
The injuries may have destroyed his explosive pace but he can still finish
I can see the point in signing him. At the time, Rooney and Berbatov were our only two strikers - with Welbeck, Diouf and Macheda as potential back-ups, none of whom looked ready for regular first-team football yet. Made sense to get someone in who was an experienced, senior pro yet willing to spend a lot of time on the bench and on a short enough contract that we could cut him loose as soon as one or other of the young 'uns came good.Never understood the point of actually getting him, his minimal input/impact was predicted and expected before he came. Yes, he obviously has contributed over his time here, but let's be honest, in the smallest of ways. He seemed a very pointless signing, and even weirder was the decision in giving him the Number 7 shirt, which admittedly I don't care all that much about, but it seemed a bit stupid to hand such an iconic shirt to someone who would barely feature in his time here, something that had to be expected. All in all, I have a lot more respect for him now then I did before, I'm not sure why, but he just seems like a decent professional and good sort, but as a player he seemed, and has largely proved to be, a pointless purchase.
preciselyI can see the point in signing him. At the time, Rooney and Berbatov were our only two strikers - with Welbeck, Diouf and Macheda as potential back-ups, none of whom looked ready for regular first-team football yet. Made sense to get someone in who was an experienced, senior pro yet willing to spend a lot of time on the bench and on a short enough contract that we could cut him loose as soon as one or other of the young 'uns came good.
Greetings, Nail. Allow me to introduce a very good friend of mine, Head.Never understood the point of actually getting him, his minimal input/impact was predicted and expected before he came. Yes, he obviously has contributed over his time here, but let's be honest, in the smallest of ways. He seemed a very pointless signing, and even weirder was the decision in giving him the Number 7 shirt, which admittedly I don't care all that much about, but it seemed a bit stupid to hand such an iconic shirt to someone who would barely feature in his time here, something that had to be expected. All in all, I have a lot more respect for him now then I did before, I'm not sure why, but he just seems like a decent professional and good sort, but as a player he seemed, and has largely proved to be, a pointless purchase.
I didn't see it. In theory, it sounded great, but the problem was his fitness. He was always going to have problems with injuries, I couldn't see him as reliable back-up. He did play a fair few games in that first season mind, but I still think we could have done without him. To be honest, his attitude and expense meant that the decision was really trivial, it certainly didn't hurt to have him at the club, and he has definitely helped our younger strikers there is no question there. I think if we were really looking at cover for a bare strikeforce, we could have been a bit more adventerous than Owen, but how realistic that is is another question, as mentioned he came with perks. He's had so many injury problems throughout his career though, I'm not sure how much you can actually rely on him for anything, it was only ever really going to be a case of keeping the bench warm.I can see the point in signing him. At the time, Rooney and Berbatov were our only two strikers - with Welbeck, Diouf and Macheda as potential back-ups, none of whom looked ready for regular first-team football yet. Made sense to get someone in who was an experienced, senior pro yet willing to spend a lot of time on the bench and on a short enough contract that we could cut him loose as soon as one or other of the young 'uns came good.
I guess the logic was that he'd never played as back-up before. I presume Fergie thought using him sparingly might make him less likely to spend the whole time crocked. He could give him a long time to recover between games and have a low threshold for making him rest if he had a niggle. Obviously that didn't turn out well but meh, hindsight.I didn't see it. In theory, it sounded great, but the problem was his fitness. He was always going to have problems with injuries, I couldn't see him as reliable back-up. He did play a fair few games in that first season mind, but I still think we could have done without him. To be honest, his attitude and expense meant that the decision was really trivial, it certainly didn't hurt to have him at the club, and he has definitely helped our younger strikers there is no question there. I think if we were really looking at cover for a bare strikeforce, we could have been a bit more adventerous than Owen, but how realistic that is is another question, as mentioned he came with perks. He's had so many injury problems throughout his career though, I'm not sure how much you can actually rely on him for anything, it was only ever really going to be a case of keeping the bench warm.
I'm with you, Hecto. I reckon Fergie actually thought he'd have played considerably more times than he did, which is why he was given the number 7. But yeah pointless signing, I rather we'd spent that cash on someone less prone to being crocked.I didn't see it. In theory, it sounded great, but the problem was his fitness. He was always going to have problems with injuries, I couldn't see him as reliable back-up. He did play a fair few games in that first season mind, but I still think we could have done without him. To be honest, his attitude and expense meant that the decision was really trivial, it certainly didn't hurt to have him at the club, and he has definitely helped our younger strikers there is no question there. I think if we were really looking at cover for a bare strikeforce, we could have been a bit more adventerous than Owen, but how realistic that is is another question, as mentioned he came with perks. He's had so many injury problems throughout his career though, I'm not sure how much you can actually rely on him for anything, it was only ever really going to be a case of keeping the bench warm.
Same here. That for me was the indicator we planned to use Owen a hell of a lot more than we did, otherwise we simply would not have put such an iconic shirt anywhere near him. Why would we give the Number 7 shirt to someone who would barely feature? It seemed like a strange one really, there was always a question of fitness and injury, because it had been evident at Madrid and of course before that. Hindsight is a great thing though, and perhaps he could have had a stronger impact if he'd been fitter, but that's the risk you take when you sign known crocked players, much like why we wouldn't take it Saha in a few years time if we were light on strikers, because he is unreliable. I'd like to know from other players what it's been like to train with and around him though, perhaps that sort of thing is invaluable to developing youngsters.I'm with you, Hecto. I reckon Fergie actually thought he'd have played considerably more times than he did, which is why he was given the number 7. But yeah pointless signing, I rather we'd spent that cash on someone less prone to being crocked.
I think giving him the Number 7 was more about talking the stigma off the number following Ronaldo than expecting Owen to live up to it.I'm with you, Hecto. I reckon Fergie actually thought he'd have played considerably more times than he did, which is why he was given the number 7. But yeah pointless signing, I rather we'd spent that cash on someone less prone to being crocked.
I actually think he'd have gotten the jersey regardless. The entire media hype around Ronaldo and his huge impact on us the last couple of seasons he was here meant whoever got the jersey would have been scrutinized and compared to him. Could be the reason it was given to him rather than a young regular who might not take the attention too well.Same here. That for me was the indicator we planned to use Owen a hell of a lot more than we did, otherwise we simply would not have put such an iconic shirt anywhere near him. It seemed like a strange one really, there was always a question of fitness and injury, because it had been evident at Madrid and of course before that. Hindsight is a great thing though, and perhaps he could have had a stronger impact if he'd been fitter, but that's the risk you take when you signed crocked players, much like why we wouldn't take it Saha in a few years time if we are light on strikers, because he is unreliable. I'd like to know what it's been like to train with and around him though, perhaps that sort of thing is invaluable to developing youngsters.