Two seasons ago he got his leg sliced open by *spit* Carragher. Which you could understand might shake him up. Last season, though, I don't remember injuries being a major issue. No more than any footballer would get in any normal season. I've heard a lot of people using injuries as an excuse for him failing to kick on as hoped, after a fantastic 2010/11 (calendar years, not just one season) Don't really see it myself.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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What I don't understand is that he was brilliant at the euros, I thought he was better than Ronaldo in a few games, but he came back here and dropped off instantly. Is there something about the way we set up which holds him back?
He had poor games at the euros too. He's had one poor game here. Probably shouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
I think Nani is one of those players that just needs 2-3 competitive games to get going. Last couple of years his form improved drastically heading towards late Sept/Oct and he was our best player over the winter months.
I meant in pre season too, I can't remember him having a poor game?
Hmmm thought he was coming back from a knock before the city game, thought he came back as a sub in the game before.
Like I said though that city game isn't fair to judge him on. It was a poor team selection, particularly with Park that crippled the attack. Nani was a bit up and down last season but in general I thought he played well, particularly in the first half of the season.
And it's harsh to judge him on just one game this season.. Again bar Kagawa none of the attacking players can say they had a good game or even better game than him imo. I think Nani sometimes gets a bit less leeway, likely due to it being more obvious that it's an individual error when he looses the ball.
I think it's fair to say though that he is somewhat shackled in a 442, 4411 whatever you want to call it. He probably would be more effective in a 3. But either way his stats creatively are up there amongst the best in the league and I think he's been more productive with goals and assists than any of our other wingers since Ronaldo left.
Ultimately players off Nani's ilk will always frustrate, the nature of their game is that it's risky. If it comes off then they can give the team an extra dimension and produce some magic that will win a tight game. If it doesn't then they'll annoy people.
Like I said though that city game isn't fair to judge him on. It was a poor team selection, particularly with Park that crippled the attack. Nani was a bit up and down last season but in general I thought he played well, particularly in the first half of the season.
And it's harsh to judge him on just one game this season.. Again bar Kagawa none of the attacking players can say they had a good game or even better game than him imo. I think Nani sometimes gets a bit less leeway, likely due to it being more obvious that it's an individual error when he looses the ball.
I think it's fair to say though that he is somewhat shackled in a 442, 4411 whatever you want to call it. He probably would be more effective in a 3. But either way his stats creatively are up there amongst the best in the league and I think he's been more productive with goals and assists than any of our other wingers since Ronaldo left.
Ultimately players off Nani's ilk will always frustrate, the nature of their game is that it's risky. If it comes off then they can give the team an extra dimension and produce some magic that will win a tight game. If it doesn't then they'll annoy people.
Players like Nani, Rooney and Giggs can be very frustrating at times because they try such difficult things on the pitch. They lose the ball quite a bit because they are so creative and skilled that they try and split teams open while most other players just play it safe.
Nani will be fine and be one of the best attackers on the planet this season.
Nani will be fine and be one of the best attackers on the planet this season.
After a bit of searching, he missed 8 league games from january to april through injury, then came back at Wigan as a sub, in the second half.
He only featured during that time in the league against Spurs and Norwich.
He only featured during that time in the league against Spurs and Norwich.
This thread has turned into a classified file about the demise of Nani, based solely on a one game performance with rumours ushering in from all angels and nations. Nani will be dropped for next game due to his poor performance against Everton; however, Rooney, who was at least as poor, will suffer no such consequences.
Rooney was poor, Nani was poor and by Jove, Young sucked when he came on too; subsequently, all our players are shite and we should sell them, mock them and kick them on they lazy arses back to the streets from whence they came.
By the way, Van Persie was crap too, so that means that he was a rubbish purchase and Ferguson doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
All the ranting aside, there is hardly a winger in the world (and don't give me any crap about Bale possibly being from an alien planet) I would rather have on the team. Sure he is a bit inconsistent, but as has Giggs always been - would you trade him for anyone in the 90s as a left winger? When you try to do fancy stuff on the field, you sometimes go wrong. But if you don't try, you don't succeed.
Nani is a game changer, and he is one of our players who can haul a victory pretty much by his own. On his day, he is unstoppable, even by the finest defenders in the world. He has all the attributes to be all the way up there with Ronaldo and Messi IF he can gain more consistency and become a better finisher. There aren't many players whom you can say that about, and if there were, they wouldn't come cheap. Thus, by selling Nani for 20ish million you would basically be shooting yourself in the arse not knowing what hit your elbow!
Rooney was poor, Nani was poor and by Jove, Young sucked when he came on too; subsequently, all our players are shite and we should sell them, mock them and kick them on they lazy arses back to the streets from whence they came.
By the way, Van Persie was crap too, so that means that he was a rubbish purchase and Ferguson doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
All the ranting aside, there is hardly a winger in the world (and don't give me any crap about Bale possibly being from an alien planet) I would rather have on the team. Sure he is a bit inconsistent, but as has Giggs always been - would you trade him for anyone in the 90s as a left winger? When you try to do fancy stuff on the field, you sometimes go wrong. But if you don't try, you don't succeed.
Nani is a game changer, and he is one of our players who can haul a victory pretty much by his own. On his day, he is unstoppable, even by the finest defenders in the world. He has all the attributes to be all the way up there with Ronaldo and Messi IF he can gain more consistency and become a better finisher. There aren't many players whom you can say that about, and if there were, they wouldn't come cheap. Thus, by selling Nani for 20ish million you would basically be shooting yourself in the arse not knowing what hit your elbow!
I can see why the guy above got promoted.
Still not quite sure how I slipped through the net mind.
Still not quite sure how I slipped through the net mind.
Custis adamant that he's been dropped for tomorrow's game.
Maybe he could reach Ronaldo's level with more consistency and goals but he'd need something to be close to Messi.He'd need not just a good football brain but a genius one.
He's a great player and I admit that I was way too harsh on my previous post on this thread.He'll never reach Messi/Ronaldo but that means nothing tbh
He'll be captain then.
Fergie would have to exchange half of the team if last game's performance is the reason to drop players. What Nani, Rooney et al need right now is games, doenst make sense to drop your best players now
"Being dropped" is not exactly any sort of judgement in our squad... it just means you're in rotation. Were Young or Hernandez"dropped" for our last match? Etc.
Not many players exempt from rotation in our squad (usually only Rooney, Vidic, Evra...)
So you think every time Fergie leaves a player out it's down to squad rotation?
According to this Zenith has made a 40m Euros offer accepted by us, the main sticking point is the wages. Nani wants near 10m Euros per year, Zenit are only offering him 5m Euros per year.
http://lifesports.ru/news/100011
http://lifesports.ru/news/100011
Even though I'll be extremely dissapointed if he does leave, a part of me isn't that suprised. We have amazing depth in that attacking area - and I honestly did think, stupidly possibily, that we had too much talent in this area to keep everyone happy.
£32m though? We're being robbed. In today's market, he should be closer to £40m.
Edit: If Nani leaves for Zenit, then I'm glad he's gone. What ambition does he have if his decision is to go to Russia? Clearly it would be money-driven and nothing else - so if this is indeed true, then I'm glad. A big if though.
£32m though? We're being robbed. In today's market, he should be closer to £40m.
Edit: If Nani leaves for Zenit, then I'm glad he's gone. What ambition does he have if his decision is to go to Russia? Clearly it would be money-driven and nothing else - so if this is indeed true, then I'm glad. A big if though.
rubbish.
He's going nowhere.
Nani, Young, Valenica, Kagawa - wouldnt trade any winger in the world for any of them.
There might be a few contenders who are better on their day, but these are UNITED PLAYERS through and through (yes I'm already convinced about kagawa!). In terms of attitude, commitment, talent and being part on the overall winning mentality - none finer imho
There might be a few contenders who are better on their day, but these are UNITED PLAYERS through and through (yes I'm already convinced about kagawa!). In terms of attitude, commitment, talent and being part on the overall winning mentality - none finer imho
Who was saying he should be sold? I saw most people saying he needs to get more consistent to be worthy of a solid starting spot, sounds fair enough.
Nani's going nowhere. Sir Alex would be mad to let him leave.
Why should we believe this anymore than any other transfer bullshit rumour?
Didn't SAF say only yesterday that he wasn't going anywhere?
Didn't SAF say only yesterday that he wasn't going anywhere?
I heard that he's lowered his wage demands, if they were ever 'too high' in the first place
Bottom line: He'd be mad to leave, we'd be mad to let him leave - simples
Bottom line: He'd be mad to leave, we'd be mad to let him leave - simples
So Zenit want to offer us 40m but wont pay the player more than 5
It's just BS. We'll keep hearing these types of rumors until he extends his contract.
With Rafael at fullback, Valencia could be on the right wing.
Nani being benched after a poor performance wouldnt be a shocker.. but it doesnt mean anything beyond that.
He is our player and a very fecking good one.
Nani being benched after a poor performance wouldnt be a shocker.. but it doesnt mean anything beyond that.
He is our player and a very fecking good one.
If he insist on being one of our top earners, on par with Rooney and RvP, I would want to let him go. He doesn't deserve it imo. Given Nani's contract situation, I'd take €40M...
€40m is a fair price, I don't get why some of you lot are unhappy with it. It's a lot of money and just about right for a player like Nani. You can't compare everyone by Carroll's price.
If the money is just used to fund our summer spending spree I think its reasonable for people to be annoyed. If the money was reinvested correctly then it wouldnt be so bad but for €40mil who do you buy?
Won't be up to SAF.But agree i don't see him going anywhere.
Normally I don't care about business related stuff but people must realize earnings from sponsorship and match tickets is not enough to fund player purchases for any club, in the long run. I don't see how that money must be re-invested rather than cover the expenditures over this summer. Besides, if there is any position we got cover in, it is on the wings.
I'd be properly pissed if that happened
What? By the inferior ashley young? I dont see why anyone would be happy if we sold one of our best players.
According to the Sun however...
assuming there is an ounce of truth in this story,40m seems good money for Nani.
Both stories are nonsense.
40m euros is what Javi Martinez is going for, right?
Great post.
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