I'd say that'll happen this season, or it's what should happen.
Season 8 should be all about the hopeless Miami homicide getting closer and closer to unraveling the truth about him.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Season 8 should be all about the hopeless Miami homicide getting closer and closer to unraveling the truth about him.
They should have Dexter and Deb both killed in a freak elevator accident and then have season 8 as a buddy cop show with Quinn and Batista busting up strip clubs and getting high.
Massuka can be LT.
Massuka can be LT.
I vote for the full on batshit Bonnie and Clyde incest thing. It would power on through the 'so shit it's brilliant' barrier.
Copying (Friends') Days of our Lives would be the ultimate deathblow.
Deborah dying is the only way to resolve this crap.
So. Turns out their grand plan for Lewis was to have him irritate Dexter for a few episodes. I guess to survive on this show you have to be a dull, one note character. Not to mention the time wasted developing his and Mike's characters
last season only to have them killed off so nonchalantly. Also, have the writers forgotten about Astor and Cody? Has Dexter just given up on them?
And those scenes with Quin and the stripper. So hilariously corny.
last season only to have them killed off so nonchalantly. Also, have the writers forgotten about Astor and Cody? Has Dexter just given up on them?
And those scenes with Quin and the stripper. So hilariously corny.
Annoying that there was nothing more to Lewis. Massive anti-climax.
Ridiculous way for Louis to go. Surely they originally had greater plans for him? Still feels like there's unanswered questions about him and his obsession with Dexter which could have been explained before he died.
Hoping this sort of resolution between Dexter and Deborah might pave the way for something greater now, although they seem to have cut the potential for the rest of the season in half with that ending as well as Lewis' death. The Ukrainian angle is the only thing they've got left now minus the blood slide unless they start exploring Lewis' disappearance. I'm guessing there is more to that blonde girl and all.
ahh...can't help but think it's going to be more of the same after such a promising first episode. Still watch-able though, obviously.
ahh...can't help but think it's going to be more of the same after such a promising first episode. Still watch-able though, obviously.
Louis death was shit, no answers about his obsession with Dexter whatsoever.
It was a meh episode.
It was a meh episode.
Unless they bring back Ryan and she was somehow linked with Louis and they explore the whole fascination there, its kinda a lame way to just end it.
They should've found Louis, shot him off the side of the boat only for him to survive, then in turn given Louis some dirt on Dexter when the trail led to that guy. He would've had to have explained why he was on Dexter's boat but seriously...anything. It's mad if they've just completely left that side of the story there.
One thing is that Dexter may end up getting caught up as a suspect in Louis' murder given what Louis said to Jamie, although I'm not sure how likely that is given the terms that was left on.
One thing is that Dexter may end up getting caught up as a suspect in Louis' murder given what Louis said to Jamie, although I'm not sure how likely that is given the terms that was left on.
Louis dying was bullshit. Rest of episode was alright.
Average episode.
Predictably they killed off the only interesting character on the show. Instead of getting rid of characters like Quinn who offer nothing to developing the story, they get rid of those who can have a complex back-story which can be developed and further expanded, or they choose to kill the only cop who was competent enough to do basic detective work.
It seems they're recycling the same shit with Quinn again. The Ukrainians still bore me, they really have not managed to get a villain to match the brilliance of Trinity.
At least the Debra-Dexter story is somewhat interesting. I think she'll buy more into Dexter's form of justice in the coming weeks and use him to deal with certain criminals.
Further theory regarding the rest of the season:
Predictably they killed off the only interesting character on the show. Instead of getting rid of characters like Quinn who offer nothing to developing the story, they get rid of those who can have a complex back-story which can be developed and further expanded, or they choose to kill the only cop who was competent enough to do basic detective work.
It seems they're recycling the same shit with Quinn again. The Ukrainians still bore me, they really have not managed to get a villain to match the brilliance of Trinity.
At least the Debra-Dexter story is somewhat interesting. I think she'll buy more into Dexter's form of justice in the coming weeks and use him to deal with certain criminals.
Further theory regarding the rest of the season:
Since the writers are so keen to regurgitate the same shit over and over again, I'll predict the following happens:
- Dexter and Hannah hook up. She becomes the latest Lumen who finds out about Dexter's 'secret' and helps him. Hopefully she doesn't feck off as quickly as Lumen did.
- The Ukrainians get close to Dexter. Either they threaten Debra or they kill Hannah. This causes Dexter to get very angry and he kills them.
- LaGuerta finds out about Dexter and/or Debra in the season ending cliffhanger.
- Remarkably, Quinn will still be a detective.
Yeah I think Lewis' disappearance may well come back on Dexter, there was a lingering shot of blood spatter on his boat which will probably come into play. Still a pretty shitty way of finishing that arc though, unless it brings Ryan back.
That scene in the stripclub where Dexter met the boss guy was terrible, it was like they were both begging to tell the other their true identities for no apparent reason.
That scene in the stripclub where Dexter met the boss guy was terrible, it was like they were both begging to tell the other their true identities for no apparent reason.
My Mrs and I have been talking about that non stop since the start of Season 5. Him and Debs banging must be like kindling rubbing together.He's either got cancer, alcoholism, AIDS, anaorexia or a serious coke habit.
That was just toss.
I'll do doubt watch the next episode, though.
I'll do doubt watch the next episode, though.
...there must be something more to this Louis shit. Being sent the Icetruck killer hand and being showed the serial killer board game...it's just crazy if they've not expanded on that. How can they let that go? He's one of the only people that isn't thick as feck in the whole department that, based on those two events, surely must have clocked Dexter's true identity, but now there's nothing more to it?
I refuse to accept it...(denial).
I refuse to accept it...(denial).
You know what, if the next episode does some stupid shit like this one again and doesn't even hint at anything Louis-related, I quit!
A lot of time spent building up the Louis character and there was some genuinely exciting ways to go on with him. Hey guys, I have an idea - let's kill him! feck off.
Actually liking the Dexter/Debra part though. They've improved Debra's character incredibly much to the point where I think she's very interesting. I think the whole way they've gotten her to realise what Dexter does and why he does it step-by-step is very well written and makes a lot of sense. Complete denial at first, then wanted to help him and now realised that there's nothing to do about it. The way she's understood him a little more gradually is also very nice. Makes me wonder why they can do the rest of the stuff in the show that bad then really.
Actually liking the Dexter/Debra part though. They've improved Debra's character incredibly much to the point where I think she's very interesting. I think the whole way they've gotten her to realise what Dexter does and why he does it step-by-step is very well written and makes a lot of sense. Complete denial at first, then wanted to help him and now realised that there's nothing to do about it. The way she's understood him a little more gradually is also very nice. Makes me wonder why they can do the rest of the stuff in the show that bad then really.
Why even mention the greatest villain of the show ? They haven't got close to replicate a guy like Jordan Chase since last year.
I can only imagine the actors being told (or given the script) and their reactions "wtf, are you kidding me ?"
I swear I could do a better job writing this series than they're actually doing.They've royally fecked up what was a great show.I don't get it the way some characters just get to die so stupidly and easily (Mike and Louis)
Not even interested one bit by the very predictable romance that'll happen between Dexter and that blonde girl
Yeah that was shit, a shame after such a promising start to the season.
As has been said, the Lewis stuff was a joke. I've no interest in the Ukrainians, Quinn or La Guerta. In fact I'm losing interest in Dexter himself now. I hope that Yvonne Strahovski at least gets her baps out, but she probably won't.
Regarding Trinity:
As has been said, the Lewis stuff was a joke. I've no interest in the Ukrainians, Quinn or La Guerta. In fact I'm losing interest in Dexter himself now. I hope that Yvonne Strahovski at least gets her baps out, but she probably won't.
Regarding Trinity:
Surely at some point Deb will cop on an realize Dexter killed him and that's why Rita died, or maybe he'll tell her.
Killing Rita was a mistake. The show runner left at the end of season four and he left a real mess for the rest of the team to try and deal with. He gave us one hell of a season finale twist, but didn't bother thinking about the long term repercussions and how the show would move forward post Rita's death.
This single parent stuff is a complete mess. He's a serial killer with three kids, who's out 90% of the day. How the hell can they make that work.They basically chucked Astor and Cody away in the hope that we completely forget about them and any link to Rita. Although I'm looking forward to whenever they finally bring them back; nothing better than a couple of child actors going though puberty, losing their ability to act.
The show would have been far more interesting if we had Dexter spending more time with his family, which in turn would have meant less screen time for all the annoying characters (pretty much the entire supporting cast).
This single parent stuff is a complete mess. He's a serial killer with three kids, who's out 90% of the day. How the hell can they make that work.They basically chucked Astor and Cody away in the hope that we completely forget about them and any link to Rita. Although I'm looking forward to whenever they finally bring them back; nothing better than a couple of child actors going though puberty, losing their ability to act.
The show would have been far more interesting if we had Dexter spending more time with his family, which in turn would have meant less screen time for all the annoying characters (pretty much the entire supporting cast).
It is pretty funny how they expect us to completely forget about Harrison and let Dexter go on the rampage and live with Deb, when only last season he was trying to juggle his entire life around him.
The writing in this show is atrocious.
The writing in this show is atrocious.
So, I haven't been watching at all, I take it that was a wise decision?
I'll let you know if Strahovski gets her baps out and what episode to watch it in.
But yeah, it's been crap.
But yeah, it's been crap.
This show is the epitome of inconsistency.Harrison did indeed play such a big role in the previous couple of seasons and now he's where ??? Quinn and Batista ... I don't know which one of them is the most boring but one thing they're pointless and shit characters.
This lacks new characters as they happen to kill off the most interesting ones (Mike and Louis) and lacks the balls to kill off previous main characters
Yeh I stopped watching after the Trinity Killer series (what was that, four?). To be honest, I only really enjoyed the first and fourth seasons. The second season with that annoying British woman was awful (especially how they conveniently wrote out Doakes), and the third series with Jimmy Smits really failed to deliver on its early potential.
Seems like a good thing I didn't perservere beyond four.
Seems like a good thing I didn't perservere beyond four.
It's incredible how poor this show has become.
Apart from the Debra & Dexter scenes, which admittedly show the best chemistry between the two since the program started, there's almost nothing left. I'm purely watching it for the sake of finishing it off now, and almost to see how ridiculous it will get. The Ukranian sub-story is one of the shittest side plots they've had, I can't imagine anyone really cares about it at all. The major bad guy is also terrible, and of course, Dexter met him almost immediately after he landed in the States.
LaGuerta's story is so shit and pointless, again you can't really care about anything she does. Quinn is going through more of the same, expect him to have an argument or 10 with Batista, before they patch things up and return to normal. The kids have now entered a new level of mistreatment. Harrison might as well not exist, the original kids who Dexter spent seasons with, and now a distant (probably dead) memory. Seriously, the time wasted on Batista and Quinn, who do literally NOTHING every single episode, is killing me.
Louis/Lewis death was a complete pisstake. Read that theory Damien posted the other week, in hindsight now it seems a bit ridiculous, but, no less ridiculous than what actually happened. Why even bother having all of that in there, just to have some random Ukranian mob boss execute him in broad daylight. It's typical of the writing and direction this show has gone in, awful, awful. I thought Mike's death was shit and pointless, but they took it to a new level with this one. What was the relevance of the hand story, his videos about Dexter, all of it?
They've managed to remove some of the most interesting characters in the most insignificant ways, while promoting the characters who are unbelievably boring and predictable, with rehashed stories. It's turned amazingly poor.
Apart from the Debra & Dexter scenes, which admittedly show the best chemistry between the two since the program started, there's almost nothing left. I'm purely watching it for the sake of finishing it off now, and almost to see how ridiculous it will get. The Ukranian sub-story is one of the shittest side plots they've had, I can't imagine anyone really cares about it at all. The major bad guy is also terrible, and of course, Dexter met him almost immediately after he landed in the States.
LaGuerta's story is so shit and pointless, again you can't really care about anything she does. Quinn is going through more of the same, expect him to have an argument or 10 with Batista, before they patch things up and return to normal. The kids have now entered a new level of mistreatment. Harrison might as well not exist, the original kids who Dexter spent seasons with, and now a distant (probably dead) memory. Seriously, the time wasted on Batista and Quinn, who do literally NOTHING every single episode, is killing me.
Louis/Lewis death was a complete pisstake. Read that theory Damien posted the other week, in hindsight now it seems a bit ridiculous, but, no less ridiculous than what actually happened. Why even bother having all of that in there, just to have some random Ukranian mob boss execute him in broad daylight. It's typical of the writing and direction this show has gone in, awful, awful. I thought Mike's death was shit and pointless, but they took it to a new level with this one. What was the relevance of the hand story, his videos about Dexter, all of it?
They've managed to remove some of the most interesting characters in the most insignificant ways, while promoting the characters who are unbelievably boring and predictable, with rehashed stories. It's turned amazingly poor.
The entire story with Louis and the bint that he replaced who robbed the ITK hand in the first place, as well as Batistas sister babysitting, has just been entirely pointless. Why bother writing all the stuff when it's going absolutely nowhere? It's so shit it actually beggars belief, how did they have a writers meeting and collectively agree that was a good idea?!
And started off with us having such high hopes, apart from the airport killing...
surely the louis kill has to come back to dexter at some point in the series. Whoever is researching it would have to find the videos and all that and put dexter under the microscope. At least that is the only reason I can see that would make his death useful.
Really killed off an interesting aspects of the story though.
Really killed off an interesting aspects of the story though.
Surprised by some of the vehemence here. I'll admit that the show has entered into shark-spotting territory over the last 3 seasons (post-Trinity,) but if anything, I've found this season to be an improvement over the second half of last season, which I thought was a particular low point.
I guess I've come to watch Dexter without being over-analytical (given that the premise was pretty flimsy to begin with.) As such, I find it far easier to watch than a show like Sons of Anarchy, with its relentless melodrama (and music sequences...)
I guess I've come to watch Dexter without being over-analytical (given that the premise was pretty flimsy to begin with.) As such, I find it far easier to watch than a show like Sons of Anarchy, with its relentless melodrama (and music sequences...)
I've only started reading/posting in this thread since the last season but the vehemence is normal. I agree with you it has improved, and though I like this thread, if someone wants to enjoy watching Dexter and not become over-analytical of it, don't read this - or any other forum about Dexter - as the plotholes/errors there are, are all highlighted and when you watch future episodes you'd then start analysing them in more detail as well and it just ruins the experience for you.
Without the threads you'd probably still notice the mistakes, but you most likely wouldn't notice them all and it wouldn't bother you as much.
I guess in a weird way, I don't think Dexter deserves much analysis - I mean it really is ridiculous how he can break into any place, and pull off these elaborate killings without anyone noticing. Therefore, I enjoy it in almost the same way that I would enjoy a B-horror film, or even a soap opera.
Shows like The Wire, Breaking Bad and The Sopranos are the ones that merit analysis and multiple viewings.
I think pretty much everyone here will say that. Actually, I think pretty much everyone is. This season started very promising - keeping the previous seasons in mind - as you'll see by the posts here after the first episodes. They've handled Debra finding out about Dexter really really well so far IMO and they seemingly opened up some very interesting plotlines - particularly the Louis one. The following episodes have been a bit disappointing though apart from the Dexter/Debra-plotline and the lowpoint for me was Louis just getting killed off when there was so much potential still to be tapped into.
As with anything though; when you start picking stuff apart you will find flaws. When you find some flaws, you'll go looking for more and you'll find more. As Damien says, if you want to simply just enjoy Dexter you're most likely better off to just stay out of this thread really and be happily ignorant towards the stuff you don't happen to notice/think about yourself. With so many people posting in this thread almost every mistake is highlighted after each episode which can ruin the experience for some.
Personally I've accepted that Dexter (or indeed any other TV show I follow) is not meant to be completely realistic. There will always be things that doesn't add up for a number of reasons. Some of the stuff that has happened in Dexter particularly over the past few seasons are a bit beyond what I'd just say "ah well, that's ok" to though and I expected better. Despite these flaws I still enjoy watching Dexter very much, which is all that matters in the end. If you enjoy the show, don't let people on the internet convince you otherwise with their long list of flaws.
Fair points, though I don't think you need to be particularly analytical in your approach to find the stuff with Louis retarded. That whole stuff was building up for ages...a whole season's worth of episodes in fact. It's almost like the main twist of that plot was to trick the viewer into thinking something was significant was happening, only to provide some sort of shock with his death. Unfortunately, it was just a massive anti-climax.
Definitely. It was a massive let down, as mentioned in my previous post and also in a post shortly after the episode aired. They even used a large part of this season already building him up some more only to kill him off. It was mind-boggling really.
In general the show seems to suffer massively by not having some sort of leader who has an overview. I'm assuming they have someone who's meant to fill this role, but he's failing spectacularly. Both Louis and the black cop (forgot his name due to how little he was involved) both had a lot of potential but neither was allowed to fulfill it.