Wimbledon 2013

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alastair said:
What is wrong with the crowd at the French Open?

Personally, I don't have a clue why tennis is a silent sport. Golf yes, tennis no. I'm not suggesting singing but people getting irate about the audience's excitement just seems pathetic to me. The reason why you get people shouting out is because they're restrained in an arena of really high pressure for hours at a time. Imagine having to be quiet in a football match.
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http://www.thetennisspace.com/top-10-occasions-that-french-crowds-turned-nasty/
 

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SAF definitely contributed to this win, so we Manchester United fans also gain alot of pleasure from this historic win.
 

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alastair said:
What is wrong with the crowd at the French Open?

Personally, I don't have a clue why tennis is a silent sport. Golf yes, tennis no. I'm not suggesting singing but people getting irate about the audience's excitement just seems pathetic to me. The reason why you get people shouting out is because they're restrained in an arena of really high pressure for hours at a time. Imagine having to be quiet in a football match.
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fecking hell, let's go over it again. Only one person has said the crowd should be silent. Others, me included, agree that they should be as loud and as passionate as they like to be... at the appropriate times, which aren't during a point or after a double fault.
 

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walsh said:
All I saw was a box full of cnuts so the sooner they panned away the better.
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It was annoying how they kept panning to insignificant characters throughout the tournament, they really tried to force a Sir Alex-Scottish-Comebacks angle against Verdasco. It was quite amusing.
 

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Hate is a strong word I wouldn't use for 99.999999% of the world, so maybe "dislike" would be a better word. But "dislikers" isn't the same as "haters" is it?




He did, as does most sportsmen. But all those fans celebrated this win like a British victory, which everyone should be proud of. I was pointing out why some British fans may not see the same way.
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Well I'd say the fact he showed such desire to win a gold medal for the British team, he certainly feels like he is part of the whole nation. People won't let comments go from when he was a kid, not one of us would identify ourselves a primarily British.
 

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Sewelly The Geordie said:
Welshmen yesterday, a Scotsman today, a Kenyan in the cycling and now for South Africa to win the Ashes.

All celebrated by the English - it's like the Empire never ended.
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Froome doesn't really look like your average Kenyan. I can't put my finger on what it is like!
 

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alastair said:
Oh. I think at least 7 of them are cases of the player needing to get on with it. I don't know - it just strikes me as if tennis players are mollycoddled a bit. If the crowd think Sharapova is grunting too loudly, why shouldn't they make themselves heard?
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"Shut the feck uuuuuuuuuuuup!"
*Round of applause*
 

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walsh said:
Well I'd say the fact he showed such desire to win a gold medal for the British team, he certainly feels like he is part of the whole nation. People won't let comments go from when he was a kid, not one of us would identify ourselves a primarily British.
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I thought the atmosphere today was more like the Olympics. Wimbledon is usually a bit more sedate, so glad it was really noisy for him.
 

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Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Now as was discussed a couple of days ago, if Del Potro could maybe stay more or less fit for a while we'll have a new guard to trio to take up the baton as Federer and Nadal enter the twilight of their careers at this level.

Players like Janowicz are on the way up too and he'll have learnt from this year.
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Federer is 32 next month, Nedal just had his 27th birthday, I don't think you can really put them in the same age bracket considering Nedal is closer to Del Potros age than he is Federers.
 

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Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Now as was discussed a couple of days ago, if Del Potro could maybe stay more or less fit for a while we'll have a new guard to trio to take up the baton as Federer and Nadal enter the twilight of their careers at this level.

Players like Janowicz are on the way up too and he'll have learnt from this year.
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I don't think Janowicz is a Grand Slam winning material, don't get me wrong because I truly like him and he seems like a decent fella but I don't think he's going to reach the level of current top 4. When you look at his way to the semi final in this tournament he was mainly beating average players, Almagro was the only top 20 player he played. I won't be surprised if he doesn't make another QF in the next 3 years.
 

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The questions need to be asked about Traub rather than by Traub. Windup or did you think Murray was English? Either way, why are you bitter? AntiEnglish or AntiBritish?

I actually though you where the poster who supported Ghana (in wc2010) despite being from a different African country. But maybe that was someone else
 

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alastair said:
I supported Chris Hoy in the Olympics and I supported Murray today because I'm British. Most people aren't retards.
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It's not the fact he's Scottish at all. It's the fact he failed to acknowledge he was British for so long, then all of a sudden he was a true Brit? I don't buy into it.

I've supported every Brit who isn't English, from every player non-English in the Lions Squad, to every Olympian outside of England. But to say he was only a Scot and not British stays with some of us, and others let it pass. Good for them, they can enjoy this as a British success if they like; Others, like me, may not. I never wanted him to fail badly, I just didn't celebrate his victory like others did.
 

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Pexbo said:
Federer is 32 next month, Nedal just had his 27th birthday, I don't think you can really put them in the same age bracket considering Nedal is closer to Del Potros age than he is Federers.
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The age difference is true but then with injury taking its toll i do wonder if Nadal is going to have to pick and choose his battles in the future. The extra week break between Roland Garos and Wimbledon might be important though.



I accused Inverdale of bullying Bartoli in this thread yesterday, now i'm hearing that it turned into a media storm and i didn't even notice.

The BBC getting clobbered for sexism over their focus on girlfriends and wives as well as the perception of women players.

Not before time.
 

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It's not the fact he's Scottish at all. It's the fact he failed to acknowledge he was British for so long, then all of a sudden he was a true Brit? I don't buy into it.

I've supported every Brit who isn't English, from every player non-English in the Lions Squad, to every Olympian outside of England. But to say he was only a Scot and not British stays with some of us, and others let it pass. Good for them, they can enjoy this as a British success if they like; Others, like me, may not. I never wanted him to fail badly, I just didn't celebrate his victory like others did.
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If you watch the documentary on him that was on the BBC recently, it showed that all of this Brit/Scot stuff was basically made up by the papers to cause trouble. I just think you need to lighten up and support him. He's as British as the Queen.
 

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Red Shorts said:
It's not the fact he's Scottish at all. It's the fact he failed to acknowledge he was British for so long, then all of a sudden he was a true Brit? I don't buy into it.

I've supported every Brit who isn't English, from every player non-English in the Lions Squad, to every Olympian outside of England. But to say he was only a Scot and not British stays with some of us, and others let it pass. Good for them, they can enjoy this as a British success if they like; Others, like me, may not. I never wanted him to fail badly, I just didn't celebrate his victory like others did.
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Tbf, he made those comments when he was a kid.

People grow up, and leave their old prejudices and issues behind. He was proud to represent Britain in the Olympics, that's good enough for me.

Being British is a hard thing to define, especially when it comes to sport, yet people like Traub only seem to have a problem with people supporting fellow Brits when it's done by the English.
 

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alastair said:
If you watch the documentary on him that was on the BBC recently, it showed that all of this Brit/Scot stuff was basically made up by the papers to cause trouble. I just think you need to lighten up and support him. He's as British as the Queen.
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Does that mean he's as useless as her too?
 

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alastair said:
If you watch the documentary on him that was on the BBC recently, it showed that all of this Brit/Scot stuff was basically made up by the papers to cause trouble. I just think you need to lighten up and support him. He's as British as the Queen.
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They did a documentary and denied the stories made by the paper a couple of days before Wimbledon, seriously? I can't believe that, surely not to improve his image? Come on now, you surely don't buy into a documentary so quickly like that because he said so? Of course he isn't going to say that was all true before the biggest tennis tournament of the year. Whether it is 100% true or not, we will never know. But why would quite a few national papers report this sort of thing not only once, but on several occasions on different instances? I congratulate him for his victory; he was the better player and rose to the moment unlike Novak. But I don't think I will ever be able to support him because of his previous actions. Also, he's as British as the queen as I am Superman.
 

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Red Shorts said:
They did a documentary and denied the stories made by the paper a couple of days before Wimbledon, seriously? I can't believe that, surely not to improve his image? Come on now, you surely don't buy into a documentary so quickly like that because he said so? Of course he isn't going to say that was all true before the biggest tennis tournament of the year. Whether it is 100% true or not, we will never know. But why would quite a few national papers report this sort of thing not only once, but on several occasions on different instances? I congratulate him for his victory; he was the better player and rose to the moment unlike Novak. But I don't think I will ever be able to support him because of his previous actions. Also, he's as British as the queen as I am Superman.
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People have known this for ages. Except the media and brain dead england fans can't leave it alone . You only have to listen to the knuckle dragging fans that phone into talk shows. Listening to them only makes me support him more.
 

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DomesticTadpole said:
People have known this for ages. Except the media and brain dead england fans can't leave it alone . You only have to listen to the knuckle dragging fans that phone into talk shows. Listening to them only makes me support him more.
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I never get these sort of comments as if Murray could never be wrong in the public's eye, yet when some fans voice their opinion they say "they're brain dead" or "they're not patriotic". Calling me brain dead is quite frankly rude and pathetic just because I choose not to fully support someone who made comments like he did years ago. I don't call you all brain dead because you decide to forget or completely ignore what he said, but doesn't seem to go the opposite way.
 
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