New Tottenham Hotspurs manager

[Sarni]

Glaston's comments on Moyes would be interesting to see again after this development.

the way he was bigging up Villas Boas at the time was hilarious indeed.

I wouldn't get this appointment under normal circumstances but they really didn't have a choice. None of the top class managers would join them in the middle of the season and appointing a mid-table manager just because they're available wouldn't do them any good anyway.

This season is probably a write off for them anyway, I can't see an inexperienced manager like Sherwood getting them into top 4 with this level of competition, in the Summer they'll be on the search for a better coach.

This wouldn't be much of an issue had they kept AVB. I reckon he would have come good.

 

[Wonder Pigeon]

But why until the end of next season?

 

[peterstorey]

They won't

 

[JaffyJoe]

Maybe he got the job because there was nobody else realistically available mid season?

Let's see what he does before passing judgement.

 

[Brophs]

Am I right in saying Sherwood doesn't have his coaching badges? If he's such a prodigious footballing visionary, why hasn't he gotten his coaching badges in all of the time he's been working in football since he retired? Sometimes I wonder if people are vaunted merely for being much younger than the people they're being compared to.

 

[Guy Incognito]

He doesn't have a Pro License. Odd because you would've thought he'd take the initiative, what with him being at Spurs since 2008.

 

[peterstorey]

He's too thick to get it.

 

[duffer]

He probably didn't imagine in a million years he'd have a sniff at the top job so it's not a massive suprise he has not got his pro licence yet.

 

[Brophs]

He probably didn't imagine in a million years he'd have a sniff at the top job so it's not a massive suprise he has not got his pro licence yet.

Fair enough, but hasn't he been talked about as a potentially very talented young manager for years now? And he's said the ambition was always to manage at the highest level. "Fail to prepare..." and all that.

 

[duffer]

Needing licences is a bit silly at that level in my opinion. It's one thing to make sure my brother in law (who coaches under 15s) has his qualifications but someone like Sherwood has been working in football for 20+ years.

Fergie didn't need a Pro Licence to acheive all that he did. Is Sherwood comprable to Fergie? Maybe. Only time will tell.........white text.

 

[Gazza]

It's a bit late in the day, but did anyone ever reprimand Grinner for the inexcusable typo in the thread title? Wouldn't expect an old-school Norf Landaner to call them "Hotspurs" plural, should know better.

 

[Gazza]

Needing licences is a bit silly at that level in my opinion. It's one thing to make sure my brother in law (who coaches under 15s) has his qualifications but someone like Sherwood has been working in football for 20+ years.

Fergie didn't need a Pro Licence to acheive all that he did. Is Sherwood comprable to Fergie? Maybe. Only time will tell.........white text.

Well Fergie got a coaching license when he started in Scotland.

The point with coaching licenses is that it is a measure of one's commitment and dedication to their chosen path, and if that is the industry standard then it is a bit fanciful to think you can go far without it.

 

[Brophs]

Needing licences is a bit silly at that level in my opinion. It's one thing to make sure my brother in law (who coaches under 15s) has his qualifications but someone like Sherwood has been working in football for 20+ years.

Fergie didn't need a Pro Licence to acheive all that he did. Is Sherwood comprable to Fergie? Maybe. Only time will tell.........white text.

Yeah, but what about the other 99%? Surely they should be educated to the highest and most modern standards? It's not there to decide whether Sherwood is qualified to manage a team, rather establishing a standard to which all coaches have to adhere. Countries like Spain and Germany seem to value these qualifications more highly and have a much higher number of qualified coaches. It seems to be working pretty well for them. Of course there'll always be crap coaches, regardless of qualifications, but having them think deeply about the game, as these courses seem to require, can't be a bad first jumping off point.

 

[peterstorey]

It's a bit late in the day, but did anyone ever reprimand Grinner for the inexcusable typo in the thread title? Wouldn't expect an old-school Norf Landaner to call them "Hotspurs" plural, should know better.

Diss 'em innit - Tottenham ShitSpurs

 

[duffer]

Yeah, but what about the other 99%? Surely they should be educated to the highest and most modern standards? It's not there to decide whether Sherwood is qualified to manage a team, rather establishing a standard to which all coaches have to adhere. Countries like Spain and Germany seem to value these qualifications more highly and have a much higher number of qualified coaches. It seems to be working pretty well for them. Of course there'll always be crap coaches, regardless of qualifications, but having them think deeply about the game, as these courses seem to require, can't be a bad first jumping off point.

I agree with you but just want Spurs to be allowed to have a manager who might be a little dim.

 

[Laphroaig]

The best Tim's

Tim Finn - Crowded house (Neil Finn is better)
Tim Burton - brilliant movies
Tim Bergling - also known as AVICII from Swedish House Mafia - not my favourite, but he is big
Tim McGee - from NCIS
Tim Berners-Lee - if you don't know this you should log off the WEB right away
Tim McGraw - American country and western star
Tim Henman - goes without saying

So basically - there aren't that many big Tim's. Sherwood is doomed

You missed the greatest Tim.

 

[GlastonSpur]

.... This season is probably a write off for them anyway ....

Says the supporter of a team sitting 2 points below.

 

[marjen]

Strange appointment.

They are becoming a circus of a club, aren't they? Well, it fits Glaston I suppose.

 

[That'sHernandez]

He'll be sacked by the end of the season with Spurs not even managing Europa League.

 

[Sarni]

Says the supporter of a team sitting 2 points below.

What does that even have to do with anything? You were commenting on United's situation regularly for the past few years even though you were nowhere near us, you can have an opinion even if your side is lower in the table FFS.

I don't think we are going to make top 4 anyway, we have a better chance than you though simply due to the fact that we have a far better squad (and right now a more experienced manager too). I could see us finishing ahead of one of the current top 4 if we go on a very good run, I can't see Spurs overtaking Liverpool, City, Chelsea or Arsenal. You'll most likely finish 7th behind United and Everton too.

 

[KM]

It's similar to us giving the job to Warren Joyce who incidentally has won more at U21 level than Tim Sherwood.

 

[Plugsy]

He doesn't have a Pro License. Odd because you would've thought he'd take the initiative, what with him being at Spurs since 2008.

Really? That's shocking. It shouldn't be allowed if that's the case. Fergie must be spinning in his...er...bath.

 

[GlastonSpur]

What does that even have to do with anything? ....

So is United's season also "probably a write off"?

 

[Carl]

So is United's season also "probably a write off"?

In terms of winning the league, yes.

FWIW I'm glad he was given the job. English coaches rarely get big opportunities and I hope he does well.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

He doesn't have a Pro License. Odd because you would've thought he'd take the initiative, what with him being at Spurs since 2008.

He's too thick to get it.

It doesn't matter. According to Neil Ashton, being in a dressing room for 18 years with difficult people is simply enough.

 

[Sarni]

So is United's season also "probably a write off"?

As far as our start of the season target (league title) goes we're done. We could get into top 4 but it's going to be very difficult, I think it'll be even more difficult for you lot though because you don't have as much quality as we do and it'll be a while before everything clicks for you.

 

[Tomuś]

They obviously knew he wouldn't take it if it was only till the end of the season so gave him another season to make him happy. I doubt he will stay till next season even if he does fairly well.

This. Sherwood is an idiot if he believes otherwise. I mean, just a few days after he said he ain't gonna take it if it's till the end of the season, they prolong it by one year. They're desperate and he should've known that. Actually, perhaps he does know that but he's well aware he'll get more money. Amateurish stuff all round, ever since the sacking of AVB.

 

[Tomuś]

Didn't Glaston say that AVB factor makes them more appealing to elite foreign players than United under Moyes are? I guess that ship has sailed. They're still 2 points above us so perhaps I'm i no position to pity them mind you.

 

[SteveJ]

I'm not giving up hope about the title yet. No way.

 

[fishfingers15]

As far as our start of the season target (league title) goes we're done. We could get into top 4 but it's going to be very difficult, I think it'll be even more difficult for you lot though because you don't have as much quality as we do and it'll be a while before everything clicks for you.

We'll have to take it each match as it comes and see where we are near the end of Feb to see how our season has gone. Remember Liverpool under Beneathus, the season was a write off in October, till they put on a run and almost beat us near the end. It's going to be a miracle, but one match at a time.

 

[fishfingers15]

I'm not giving up hope about the title yet. No way.

Agreed Steve, for this post, you get a nomination in my end of year awards (I only have the funniest poster slot open, so I may have to give you that)

 

[GlastonSpur]

In terms of winning the league, yes.

FWIW I'm glad he was given the job. English coaches rarely get big opportunities and I hope he does well.

Fair enough.

But Spurs are aiming for a top 4 place, rather than winning the league. So I don't see how our season is "probably a write off" (as Sarni put it) when we are only 4 points off from 4th place and a mere 6 points spreads across the top 7 teams.

 

[SteveJ]

Agreed Steve, for this post, you get a nomination in my end of year awards (I only have the funniest poster slot open, so I may have to give you that)

Sadly, it might yet qualify for Funniest Post, mate.

 

[fishfingers15]

Sadly, it might yet qualify for Funniest Post, mate.

It may, but at least we go down laughing

 

[Sarni]

Fair enough.

But Spurs are aiming for a top 4 place, rather than winning the league. So I don't see how our season is "probably a write off" (as Sarni put it) when we are only 4 points off from 4th place and a mere 6 points spreads across the top 7 teams.

That's because realistically all sides currently in top 4 are considerably better than you and I reckon United have a better chance to end up there too. It's not just about points but also the quality of the team.

Is top 7 meant to be a dig at United being 8th? We're as much in it as you are.

 

[GlastonSpur]

That's because realistically all sides currently in top 4 are considerably better than you and I reckon United have a better chance to end up there too. It's not just about points but also the quality of the team.

Is top 7 meant to be a dig at United being 8th? We're as much in it as you are.

You can speculate all you like as to what will or won't happen from here on, but to say that our season is over just doesn't square with the fact is that Spurs are still in the mix for a top 4 place - as a simple glance at the table shows.

 

[Sandikan]

yep, you can't say Tottenham's season is a write off, when finishing 4th was their max aim anyway.

As much as I chuckle at a work pal who supports Tottenham saying how we had a "two bit" manager and "hadn't signed anyone", I reckon Spurs will suddenly be a right entertaining team to watch, and games will be end to end goal fests.

Does seem an odd appointment though, a guy with no experience at all!

 

[Grinner]

He's going to go 4-4-2 isn't he?

 

[mic.m]

4-4-2 with 2 centerforwards and no holding midfielders. I guess they will be swashbuckling like a mid 90's Newcastle but they will be found out by any decent counterattacking team.

 

[Grinner]

He'll need Adebayor to give a shit for more than a few games in a row.