I would bet any money he is regretting saying that. He'll be proud of the fans for their support but he'll realise the seriousness of the situation and the mistake he made in choosing Moyes and realise that by saying that we can't be fickle and have to support him he has made the removal of Moyes virtually impossible to do and save face.
I don't think it is in Fergie's character to suck it up and accept his 'mistake'. He is has hard headed and adamant as they come, which was a major factor for his success. I can easily see him let this run for a year more, before things get virtually out of his hand. No easy way out.
that's what I'm afraid of too. SAF is as stubborn as they come and trusts his own judgement, so SAF might be the one in the boardroom still refusing to sack Moyes.
Yea but Fergie doesn't have executive powers. The moment Glazers want Moyes gone, he will be.
Hard to know, they obviously have a lot of respect for Fergie. They never tried to interfere with him during his reign, they just let him do what he wanted (well, to an extent, I'm sure there were financial restrictions in place), they flat out let him pick Moyes and it looks like they're trusting his idea of sticking with him despite the fact that 99% of owners would've sacked him months ago.
I agree with what you're saying but in the first case, they had literally no choice than to trust Fergie with the decisions as they know feck all football themselves. I actually think that they'd have still bowed to Fergie if he suggested they stick with Moyes, in the event we limped to a 4th place finish. The current situation is very different and catastrophic though. If a suitable manager is available at the end of the season, Glazers will pull the trigger imo. But we shall see.
Probably incorrect. They are astute businessmen who are wise (and successful) enough not that trustable and be led around blind, even by Fergie. The are aware of popularity of Fergie, backed by his success and so are willing to take a backseat as any good owner should. I'm sure they will seek assurances from Fergie on why he thinks Moyes should not be sacked. If they are satisfied, Moyes may well continue. Them bowing to Fergie due to ignorance of football is just absurd, imho.
I'm not so sure. SAF was ruthless in all the important decisions and look at how he dropped Rooney for the Real match. He is a very intelligent man and he will do the right thing for the club.
Umm that's more or less what I said. I said they'd agree with Fergie about not sacking Moyes if we had a reasonable season. We aren't though and he will be sacked.
I can't help but compare the Glazers to the Liverpool owners. When they decided that Kenny had to go they recruited their next manager in a professional way. They invited the short-listed candidates to the US for interview and at first Martinez was the favorite for the job. But then they decided that Rodgers was a better choice and how right they were. If John Henry can get it right why can't the Glazers?
SAF has lost his ruthlessness completely. He's all about misplaced loyalty now.
Same with Veron. From "yous know nothing about football" to shipping his most expensive signing ever out the door (to a rival team, no less) all in the space of a few weeks.
Have you read SAF's latest book Pogue?
Where do you think his loyalty lies, United or Moyes? Fergie looked crushed on Sunday and he was sat next to one of the Glazers. He must have felt very uncomfortable. He will want to restore his good reputation.
Excerpts only.
Sir Alex to give us 2 years and the time for Jose to fall out with Abramovich again?
Fair enough
In that particular quote I was talking about Glazers allowing Fergie to pick his successor. Not about sacking Moyes which we agree that Glazers will do off their own accord.Our best performance in the league this season was the Swansea away game.
Basically all our good ones were earlier on; Swansea away (such hope we had) and a few in the CL. More recently, we've had a couple of decent results against relegation contenders, but the final scoreline was better than the performances I feel. More importantly, we've had two of our very worse performances in our last three matches — I think only the Man City match comes close to these two, and that's amongst a large set of pretty horrible ones this season.
That's complete bollox, to be fair.
It's quite incredible how right that guy on RAWK was.
Name a better one.
Villa away was easily our best league performance of the season.
Yeah, that's the first that springs to mind.
Exactly. I think the Villa game is the only league match where we've been up to scratch. Even the Arsenal win we were hanging on.
I started reading it and its pretty interesting to be honest.
Bloody hell devilish that's an excellent post. I had to double check you posted it then.
I know this is ESPN but it's cheered me up a bit!
Sources: Board turning against Moyes
March 18, 2014
By Miguel Delaney | ESPNFC
ESPN FC: United are shell shocked
Key Manchester United boardroom figures have now turned against David Moyes, as the prospect of the manager getting sacked has been properly raised for the first time, club sources have told ESPN FC.
David Moyes' job hangs in the balance after revelations that United's owners, the Glazers, are now open to the idea of a change of manager.
The Glazer family owners are now more open to the idea of a change of manager, although they presently remain behind Moyes, but the next week could prove decisive, sources said. Over that time, United must overturn a 2-0 deficit in the Champions League against Olympiakos, before facing an awkward trip to West Ham United and then a potentially daunting second derby of the season against Manchester City.
While qualification for the quarterfinals of the Champions League would be seen as a huge positive and possibly change the entire dynamic of his job, an elimination followed by poor performances in the two games after that could well bring the pressure to breaking point. The Glazers are said to have become very "nervous" about the nature of recent performances, let alone the results, with a nadir coming in the 3-0 home defeat to Liverpool. Some United officials now openly maintain that a managerial change is needed.
Old Trafford sources also state it has been noted that Sir Alex Ferguson is no longer so vocally backing Moyes at boardroom level, although the former manager is not said to have turned against his replacement. It is also believed Moyes retains the backing of Sir Bobby Charlton.
Doubt, however, has increased at virtually every level of the club. Despite the poverty of recent performances, sources state that one of the most influential factors now has been financial concerns. A number of recently signed-up sponsors and commercial partners have reportedly let it be known to the club that they are less than enthused with now being linked to failure, especially since they specifically came on board because of the reputation for extreme success.
This is said to have most unnerved the hierarchy, and long-term damage to United as a "brand" could be the clinching point in any decision. While the club have long planned for a season out of the Champions League -- and that was known to be one initial reason behind the previously unwavering support for Moyes -- any extra negative effect on commercial revenue would be viewed with utmost seriousness.
Sources also state Louis van Gaal would be interested in a potential summer move to Old Trafford, and that the Dutch coach is a little less intent on the Tottenham Hotspur job than he was a few weeks ago. Spurs had felt that Van Gaal's appointment after the World Cup was virtually certain, but it is now more open-ended.
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...idering-replacing-david-moyes-manager?cc=5739
journalists are experts at making things sound vaguely plausible, preying on what people want to hear. That should never be a reason to believe a journalist
He is currently the Dutch national manager, won't leave Holland until after the World Cup. Anyway, the season is gone, as long as he would have some targets to sign, July would be alright to start the job.
We will end up in the same situation as last summer, with the manager having no time to assess the squad and with no time left to really strengthen the side. I wonder if that's the idea in the first place.
