Not that it really means anything, but if they don't like him, you never know. I guess we don't really need him now though, do we?
80% of Barca fans would sell Fabregas to us for €30M
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Yeah, lets do this again. It was fun last year.
Considering the competition for his signature I'd be very surprised if it happened. Arsenal surely much more likely, after all they have Champions League football to look forward to.
I still can't quite believe we can't offer this next season, I keep forgetting and then I read posts like yours
At that price the list of suitors would be extensive. I think he'd end up leaving around the 40 bracket, similar to Mata & Ozil lately.
We honestly don't need him. Much prefer we invest in defensive midfield options.
Wow, you should go for him if that's the case. Although I find it hard to believe that ye will be the only club that want him, I feel with the right manager ye have a good chance of getting him. Even with no manager ye have a better chance of getting him than with moyes as manager
Is that 80% of internet fans? I'd imagine most of the real fans would feel quite differently..
Also, Fabregas, best as an AM, do we need him? He's another Kagawa/ Mata/ Januzaj etc... I'd rather see a few deeper lying mid's
Also, Fabregas, best as an AM, do we need him? He's another Kagawa/ Mata/ Januzaj etc... I'd rather see a few deeper lying mid's
I don't even...
We've got first option if Barca decide to sell.
Everytime I've seen him for Barca over the past few years... he's played quite advanced, behind Messi, on the other flank to Neymar, I would actually call him more towards another no.10 (sort of) at this point, It's been rare to see him occupying one of the 3 in Barca's midfield, (Iniesta/Xavi/Biscuits) though I've seen him used here once or twice, (only once or twice mind)
At Arsenal the last few years there he was also playing in an advanced role, rather than an authodox midfielder.
At this point I would not buy him, we have enough no.10's and I'm not sure he would be a good fit in a midfield 2.
Don't we have enough square pegs in round holes enough as it is?
At Arsenal the last few years there he was also playing in an advanced role, rather than an authodox midfielder.
At this point I would not buy him, we have enough no.10's and I'm not sure he would be a good fit in a midfield 2.
Don't we have enough square pegs in round holes enough as it is?
They're also blaming Messi heavily right now for their bad season. MESSI. It means nothing what the fans think as long as Barca want to keep Fabregas and i think they do.
What's his best position these days? Centre mid or further forwards?
Whatever it is, Barcelona definitely don't seem to use him in his best position.
I would happily trade him for Mata.
Well thats debateable seeing as hes been quite dross for Barca, using him further forward, but can he actually operate in a midfield 2 these days? I have my doubts.
Why not? He won't do any worse than a Tony Kroos in central midfield.
Or perhaps not good enough for Barcelona any longer
Send that poll result to Fabregas' twitter.
For kagawa maybe?
Erm when was the last time we saw him used as a midfielder? as an actual midfielder?, his first few years for Arsenal? he's been playing in an advanced role now for about 5+ years, Fellaini (hes crap i know) but hes struggled to convert back to midfield after he's played more advanced for Everton, The situation is similar, we'd be asking someone who doesn't currently play the role we need to take it up,
Also when he has actually played midfield for Barca, (rarely, and I do mean rarely) hes been in a 3, not a 2 as we'd no doubt try and fit him in.
I don't think "real" fans would - Cesc gets whistled very regularly when he's either subbed on or off. No one else (except Dani Alves on occasion) is ever treated like that. It's not a unanimous dislike but I'd say more want him gone than they want him to stay.
That's not true though. He's been played in Xavi's position, in Iniesta's position and in Messi's position and hasn't really looked good in any of them. His output is great, but his performances haven't been - in the second half of seasons especially, and in pretty much every big game. He needs space to play well which isn't usually available.
This is interesting. Now how much do they want for Iniesta?
Thankfully it's not your choice.
You'd think that we would be his first choice if he became available. Arsenal would have to force one of Ozil/Ramsey out to make room in their starting line-up, and we showed last Summer that we clearly want him.
I would love to have him here, however there would certainly be a bidding war if he was available so not sure how our chances would be.
I prefer that. Will you pay for his jet2.com flight to Manchester?
What's the basis in thinking for those who think he can't operate in a midfield 2 anymore? Do you think he forgot? He was playing in a midfield 2 for Arsenal at age 16, pretty sure he can still handle it.
Chances are, we won't play 4-4-2 next season anyway. But whatever formation we play, we'll be a much better team with Fabregas in our midfield than not.
Chances are, we won't play 4-4-2 next season anyway. But whatever formation we play, we'll be a much better team with Fabregas in our midfield than not.
BUY, BUY, BUY!
Either.
Kroos has played in a midfield 3 for Bayern this entire season and we would trade him for our mothers. The Fellaini comparison is outrageous. Scholes played in an advance role for quite a bit of his early career.
Cesc has all the tools to play in the central midfield area. His has exceptional vision and his passing is fantastic. He played the role for most of his Arsenal stint and was excellent in it. There is no reason to assume that he won't be able to play in central midfield.
Would be an utterly amazing signing. I was reading last night that he'd basically told RvP last summer that he would come to United, and that's why we persisted in chasing him. The chatter does seem to have started to back up again, and there probably is something in it.
I'd take Cesc all day. So what if Arsenal can offer him Chanpions League football, are they going to win it? No!!!!
Midfield 3 at Barca has biscuits doing the defensive donkey work for the others, but the point is hes hardly ever played there even for them, he's been shunted around a lot but his average position has been wide of messi in one of the 3 infront of their midfield, there's zero evidence that he'd automatically just drop right back into a midfield 2 like a glove,
Particuarly when we've seen the pitfalls of purchasing a player this year who played a different role for Everton, despite being a midfielder originally, fail to adapt back.
When actually wanting a safer bet, based on concrete evidence then I'd rather they go out and purchase someone who actually plays a similar role for their club side, and not someone who's played in an advanced role for 5+ odd years.
Cesc can feck off!! I rather we bring back Gibson instead.
Wow you'd think he was Anderson (shits on Fabregas apparently) or Fellaini. You guys have it tough out in Barcelona.
Has he fallen from grace that hard this season? Admittedly, I don't really watch La Liga unless it's Atletico playing so haven't seen him too much. What's happened for all those fans to want him gone?
Also, I doubt he'd come to us. He has ties to Arsenal and currently they are in a better position than us, in the Champions League and probably will look to make one big name signing. He'd probably go there if anywhere I reckon.
Also, I doubt he'd come to us. He has ties to Arsenal and currently they are in a better position than us, in the Champions League and probably will look to make one big name signing. He'd probably go there if anywhere I reckon.
Please stop making the Fellaini comparison. He is donkey, who was never good enough. He might get better by playing the position and become a squad player here, that's his limit.
Fabregas is an exceptional talent, who grew up playing in central midfield for Arsenal. He hasn't been able to excel at Barca for the exact reason that he has been shunted around and doesn't suit their tiki-taka nonsense. He is a more direct player, not suited to their patient style. IMO, he would easily adjust back and excel in the central midfield area. The only as good creative options in central midfield as Fab are Modric and Kroos.
He's been underwhelming at Barca for a few reasons, but not being good enough isn't one of them IMO. I get the feeling that you lot thought that he was the answer to a declining Xavi, when he's a completely different type of player.
I'm not trying to compare Fellaini as a player, to the talent of Fabregas, I'm saying we purchased someone who wasn't playing the role we intended for him here at his original club and assumed he'd adapt back, similar to Fabreagas.
The same logic for Mata, saying he'd play well anywhere due to being such a good talent, yet we've seen him not being able to perform on the our right (despite the fact he used to play there at times for Valencia) compared to the no.10 role, just because a player has bundles of talent doesnt' automatically conclude they'll adapt to a differing role in a different side, is my point.
The player we actually needed, the one who would have fit like a glove, and played the same role for his (then) side, was actually Modric.