I don't think we will be doing that to him this year.. The way we left him high and dry last year was not showing the club in good light,hopefully this time we wont make that mistake..
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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i hope thier is an agreement inplace(if indeed he was at carrigton), but the issue with your argument is it dosnt help bibao save face, it makes them look daft if the deal goes few a few hours later
Theoretically (and legally!)
It's only happened once in Spain and on that occasion, the player did literally pay the clause fee himself and his new club compensated him with a signing-on fee. The signing-on fee was taxable.
If someone gave you all that money would you submit it or retire to some nice south sea island?
i understand all that, but he isnt a free agent right now, he is still a bilbao player, untill he is a free agent we have no right to have him at our training ground
Oh feck it but I don't think we can't pay extra millions to get him anyway, we'll join us soon one way or another.
Not really as once Herrera hands over everything to the LFP to buy himself out of his contract so to speak, Athletic are powerless. Them accepting a bid would show they're willing to sell.
We wouldn't have had all this palaver if we'd gone after Leon Osman...
The important point here is the rejected bid isn't from today/yesterday. They want it made clear the buyout has been paid. Bilbao papers reckon that was done yesterday.
This is to do with 4% to zaragoza
This is to do with 4% to zaragoza
It does save face, in that it proves to their fans that they didn't have a choice in the matter, than Herrera and Man Utd done the deal in spite of Bilbao.
hope he gets his ban details right or that could be embarrassing....If someone gave you all that money would you submit it or retire to some nice south sea island?
We've already met those terms. He's breached his contract by having it bought out, therefore he's free to meet us.
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yes but if they resigned to him going anaywa why say anything? just makes them look daft.
I'm pretty certain that we've covered all ground this year and know exactly what to expect and what to do.
It's obvious that Herrera wants the move, but Bilbao doesn't want him to go so we've no option but to go down the buy-out clause route. Last summer we tried to get him on the final day of the window and from what I can gather, we tried to get him cheaper by dealing with Bilbao directly. If I remember correctly, we didn't want to pay the buy-out clause as we felt he wasn't worth the money. Then again, that could be a cover story for the fact that we didn't have time for all the legal stages in his buy-out, or simply didn't know fully what it involved.
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I hate it when clubs make these agreements and then try to renegade on them, screwing his former club.
Because they'd be happy to keep him so them being unable to do anything about him leaving reflects on them better.
he hasn't had t bought out yet, obviously or he would be our player, which means he is still bilbaos player.
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Are Basque players free? Yes, they only sign Basque players, but they still cost money. And there's no way they'd turn down any bids over and above the players value. They'd pocket it and sign Basque replacements.
The good news is Inigo Markinez and various other sources are saying it is a tax issue, this means one thing and one thing only, and that is we've paid his clause.
If it is a release, break, buy-out or santa clause doesn't matter, all that needs to happen is for the FPP FPF FFP LFP whoever it is, to sign off on the deal and it is done.
Bilbao just want some spotlight.
If it is a release, break, buy-out or santa clause doesn't matter, all that needs to happen is for the FPP FPF FFP LFP whoever it is, to sign off on the deal and it is done.
Bilbao just want some spotlight.
OK, so probably not a bad source then. Hope it's true.
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So sir bobby is doing something useful now eh?
Yes. Technically that is true.
Not really. Actually it does help Bilbao save face. It shows they are commited to keeping the player. It is the player who forced the transfer by terminating his own contract.
That's what everyone here is trying to tell you. The theory is that he terminated his contract by triggering the buy out clause. Therefore he is free to go to Carrington.
I'd imagine it was a cover, as they probably expected the deal to be easier, attempting to start it too late in the window.
Should have known though, with Bilbao's history and how long we've been scouting the player.
Still think we'll wrap this up before the weekend.
If we do make a balls of it again, and I don't think we will, then Ed should go.
If we do make a balls of it again, and I don't think we will, then Ed should go.
There are complications with items of paper work, it appears, but as far as he and us are concerned, he's breached his contract by lodging the payment and making his intentions to buy his contract out known, so there's no issue with him meeting us.
Ever since the Moyes debacle we demoted him to "tour guide".
can sort of see where your coming from, but all that side of things is going to come out anyway, think saying youve rejected a bid give your fans hope, just for him to leave anyway.....
not sure that makes bilbao look any better
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that a medical has to be conducted before a player can buy his contract out, whether for insurance or whatever. He's told his club he's breaching his contract, and lodged the payment. He's already in breach of contract, hence the compensation payment. Maybe that was bollocks though. I'm sure someone here knows.
well if he has already terminated his contract why isnt he our player?
Cheers for this! So, it is even more complicated legally than I thought but still it seems to be more easy for Spanish clubs to activate clauses. Between, why Spanish clubs use clauses (it isn't mandatory on most of the European leagues)?
How do you know we haven't?
Technically he wouldn't have a club would he. Until he literally signs for us.
It is admirable that they only want Basque players, but they are making a rod for their own backs. Has it never dawned on them that players are ambitious and may just want to further their careers. There are limitations to what they can achieve at Bilbao. You would think it would give them some pride for their products to be wanted by the major clubs. Or is that me being a bit arrogant?
We didn't leave him high and dry last year. We made a bid, they rejected it and we didn't offer to meet the buy out clause. That was it done.
So the issues holding up the announcement are the payment to Zaragoza and sorting out the tax. Once that's settled he'll officially be our player?
well the more articles i read on this... for more it seems as noone seems to know exacly how it works lol
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