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Adam Crafton is the most reliable these days. Gets everything right.
 

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Our (reoccuring) interest in Herrera came out of the blue. Any other deal with foreign players could/would follow similar pattern. What Ducker "thinks" and what Ducker "knows" are seperate issues at this point.

@alastair Andy Mitten is close to the club in one way or another.
 

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They still get briefed, or at least still have the odd leak. They were spot on with the Kroos stuffs and Shaw, missed the Herrera signing but this definitely seems like a genuine one. 'From what I was told last night' is fairly obviously a source.

Seems that the vast majority of this Vidal stuff is utter bollocks. We clearly have interest but the proper sources are all in agreement that we've not actually made a move for him.
 

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I hope and think Ducker knows feck all. Doestn seem like we are briefing the press these days. All the interesting news came from Italian or Chilean reports.
It's clear that Ducker and Ogden haven't been leaked much news from the club. Ducker in particular is covering all bases at all times.

Very reliable, but this doesn't worry me too much.
Andy Mitten has been quiet enough too, but has said to expect alot of action this week now that LvG's at OT.

Also, Sport Witness are very reliable & sceptical about all these ITK's & seem hell-bent on calling them out. With them & Mitten, thats where i'd place my trust regarding United & this window..
 

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Very neutral and covering as much ground as possible from Ducker.
 

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Yep, here's what he said:
So he did a webchat and this is what he said:
I believe Van Gaal is planning on playing 4-3-3 primarily next season although it wouldn't surprise me if you saw 5-3-2 enlisted on occasion.
United want to keep Evra but his wife, Sandra, is desperate to leave Manchester - she has been for a good while - and the club don't want to stand in his way in that regard given what a good servant he has been. It's a real blow if you ask me - he's a big character with a lot of experience and would have helped Luke Shaw settle in.
Part of the reason his decline was accelerated in recent years was because he was being asked to play a ridiculous number of games for a guy in his thirties who is all about bombing forward. In terms of signings, I believe they want to sign another left back, a centre-half and at least one more midfielder plus maybe a winger-forward type.
I'm told Di Maria is on the radar but that there's been no contact with the player or Real Madrid, which would suggest there's one or two others that the club are pursuing first. From what I was told last night, I think the Vidal rumours have taken on a life of their own.
I don't believe United are actively pursuing him at this stage and although I'm not saying things won't change, it looks like Juventus are really trying to create a market for him, in much the same way as Benfica did with Nicolas Gaitan a couple of years back.
 

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Andy Mitten has been quiet enough too, but has said to expect alot of action this week now that LvG's at OT.

Also, Sport Witness are very reliable & sceptical about all these ITK's & seem hell-bent on calling them out. With them & Mitten, thats where i'd place my trust regarding United & this window..
Agreed.
 

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Our (reoccuring) interest in Herrera came out of the blue. Any other deal with foreign players could/would follow similar pattern. What Ducker "thinks" and what Ducker "knows" are seperate issues at this point.

@alastair Andy Mitten is close to the club in one way or another.
I think he seems decent and pretty sensible but he's treated like some sort of oracle on here and I can't for the life of me think why. Pick any of the 'name' journalists you like, Ogden, Ducker, Jackson, and I suspect they have the same sort of success rate as Andy Mitten. He clearly has some contacts, but he also has a private, paid forum that he constantly has to generate content for.
 

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I remember reading that a while back but wasnt that with Nike. Was hoping we had changed it for adidas by getting a small portion of the profits.
With Nike we earned a proportion of profits. If I recall the base deal was for around £25-26m a year, whilst last year we earned £38m total (presumably around £12m via the profit share).

I imagine the £70m would either be a set figure and not include a profit share (with United preferring the money up front), or will have taken the profit share into account (e.g. £55m + c. £15m per year in profit-share).

Either way it's an incredible deal, but it is not more than double Real Madrid for example.
 

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With Nike we earned a proportion of profits. If I recall the base deal was for around £25-26m a year, whilst last year we earned £38m total (presumably around £12m via the profit share).

I imagine the £70m would either be a set figure and not include a profit share (with United preferring the money up front), or will have taken the profit share into account (e.g. £55m + c. £15m per year in profit-share).

Either way it's an incredible deal, but it is not more than double Real Madrid for example.
Yup no denying that. I think us willing to negotiate long deals counts in our favour as well. I dont think other clubs sign 10-15 year deals so we can demand more to start with.
 

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There hasn't been a credible source that we are signing Vidal.
Exactly. The only thing is when so many people are saying it there may be something in it. But still, take it all with a pinch of salt until some reliable outlets report it.
 

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If that's true about Evra's wife then what an ungrateful tart she is. Can't understand for the life of me why footballers get married.
She has probably sacrificed quite a lot following him around to various clubs over the years. Anyway, 21st century and all that...
 

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I think he seems decent and pretty sensible but he's treated like some sort of oracle on here and I can't for the life of me think why. Pick any of the 'name' journalists you like, Ogden, Ducker, Jackson, and I suspect they have the same sort of success rate as Andy Mitten. He clearly has some contacts, but he also has a private, paid forum that he constantly has to generate content for.
Fair points mate.
 

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It's plainly obvious that Ducker, Ogden et al enjoyed a regular stream of info in the Moyes era. Thankfully, that info seems to have acome to an abrupt halt now. Any of the info they give out this Summer is very much on the fence stuff, or personal opinion prefaced with "I believe" etc. They plainly had no knowledge of the Herrera deal until the rest of us found out about it.
 

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With Nike we earned a proportion of profits. If I recall the base deal was for around £25-26m a year, whilst last year we earned £38m total (presumably around £12m via the profit share).

I imagine the £70m would either be a set figure and not include a profit share (with United preferring the money up front), or will have taken the profit share into account (e.g. £55m + c. £15m per year in profit-share).

Either way it's an incredible deal, but it is not more than double Real Madrid for example.
Great deal alright, but will the club see any of that kind of dosh invested though?

These big deals mean feck all to me, because it only helps to pay the Glazers. I'm not on the anti-Glazer bandwagon either, but we're not exactly big hitters in the transfer market - even though we bring in more revenue than any club.

There's plenty of dosh left over after financing the interest payments too!
 

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Yup no denying that. I think us willing to negotiate long deals counts in our favour as well. I dont think other clubs sign 10-15 year deals so we can demand more to start with.
It allows you to get a better deal in the short term, but sometimes can come back to bite you towards the end of the deal.

An example is our Nike deal in 2002 that initially was an incredible deal that blew everyone else out of the water (similar to this Adidas one). Back then we would never have been able to get that amount had we not signed up for 13 years. However because of the boom in commercial revenues for the last 5-6 years £35-38m ended up being lower than we could have gotten if we were not tied into a long term contract, as evidenced by this contract being over 80% larger!

I suspect the club have gotten it right with Adidas. I think the market has probably reached saturation point in terms of what kit manufacturers will pay clubs (hence Nike stepping aside). Put it this way: I very much doubt in 10 years we'll be negotiating for another 75+% increase!
 
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