Yes, you keep saying that you don't rate stats. In this case it's not really helping your argument. So perhaps it's probably best you not dismiss them on their merits. If you want to know midfielder's who were highly regarded in tackling last season then I can tell you if you like (Fellaini 12[4] 48 tackles, 2.8pg), Mile Jedinak at 3.5 a game made the most tackles in the league at 133 tackles success. Claudio Yacob for West Brom was next at 3.8pg, 106 tackles (22[4]apps) and after that Schniederlin (113), El Mahamodi (105) and Arteta (105) all on 3.4pg.
If we compare that to the United players who quite abhorrently as a team tackled as a team at the 81st best team in Europe last season.
Carrick 26(3) 60 tackles, 2pg. Cleverley 17(5) 48 tackles, 2.18pg.
Fair enough, 2.8 isn't bad i guess. Not good either and ill believe my eyes ahead of stats, thank you
Everyone has bad days. He won 2/4 tackles in that game and only a single tackle was on the edge of the area. So I guess there is a little food for thoughts on using stats to quantify your opinions. If by 'gave them lots of fk's in dangerous areas' you meant 1/4 outside the box then I guess you're right.
This is why i dont rate stats, he made a hell of a lot more than 4 tackles in that game.
I dont know how they define a tackle being made but i disagree with whatever their criteria is if they say he made 4 in total basically.
Everyone has bad days, but that match pretty much summed up fellaini imo. He was particularly bad in the same way hes just bad as a matter of routine.
I suppose we'll just take your word for it, then? A 'few games in which you can't remember how many maybe, you know those games he's just been poor and is a poor tackler' despite, I guess - being the highest successful when it comes to ground duels for United last season. No problemo.
Im not arsed looking up how many games he played, get over it. He was consistently crap defensively in the matches i watched last season (all of them basically)
Midfielders aren't perfect and especially defensive minded midfielders who's sole focus is on defending. I am sure there is room for one in Van Gaals system and I am sure there is room for Fellaini to grow as a player if he is given the chance. But lets not be to hasty in trying to convince the world that he can barely function as a footballer. It's just simply not true.
I think hes a good footballer, i never said he wasn't. I just think hes a good am where we have an embarrasment of riches.
I wouldn't be opposed to keeping him on and using him as a target man when appropriate but i think it'd be a bit of a waste.
You wouldn't expect him to play often. Once in a blue moon maybe. Hes good enough to be first choice at a decent club in that position.
He might be a decent cm, its hard to judge when all you've got are games he played for moyes and ... belgian coach who's name i cant remember.
I thought his best game for us was against palace where he was given a bit more freedom. He was understandibly rusty but pretty good all the same.
Wasn't really challenged defensively though, so i remain unconvinced.
I dont think decent is good enough anyway and i'd rate fletcher and cleverley ahead of him and not good enough either
but im happy enough to be proven wrong on that front.
I think he's a poor dm and shows very little natural ability as one. I just dont see him growing into one.
Again stranger things have happened and im happy enough to be proven wrong if hes given a chance.
Also the condescending replies are getting tiresome, give it a rest.
