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FC Ronaldo

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Blind faith in a boy that has failed to produce cannot be sustained when points are vitally needed. Training ground wonder or not.
 

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All he's shown is that he can run fast along the touch line. Looks like a deer in the headlights with the ball in the final third.
 

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Januzaj doddling and being indecisive as per usual directly led to City's best chance - Aguero - and they should have scored. We cannot afford to carry a passenger all the time, so far he's being nothing but that in all of these games he's played.
Are you nut?
 

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So talented yet, despite his age, such a poor decision maker when in possession.
 

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Not for me. Lots of teams now paying attention to Di Maria more. Januzaj has had the ball a lot and done nothing. Can you remember a chance he's created?
Yeah, created a clear chance for RVP vs Chelsea. And played 2 good through balls wide cutting in to put players through in the channel besides that first half vs Chelsea too.

More than what can said about Di Maria tbh except 1/2 set piece deliveries.

And Januzaj is being double teamed as well. Infact he's had to deal with better defensive combinations on the wing both games in terms of Willian + Ivanovic and Milner + Clichy. Also Valencia didn't help him at all today in combination compared to Shaw.
 

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Not for me. Lots of teams now paying attention to Di Maria more. Januzaj has had the ball a lot and done nothing. Can you remember a chance he's created?
Did you miss the lovly through ball vs Chelsea? Played a couple of other great passes as well against both CHelsea and WBA.
 

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His ultimate move is stop the ball, stand over it like he did an exhilarating piece of skill and when he inevitably gets pressured he passes back or loses the ball.

Good player in the making, not the amazing prodigy as anointed by redcafe.
 

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Jeez... Everything is falling apart with Smalling and Rojo to an extent, and Januzaj is getting picked on for his 35 minute cameo when he didn't do a lot, but certainly didn't screw up.

I really don't know why I read what other people say on a message board when 99% of the time it's ridiculous uninformed bile.
 

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I'm surprised people are giving Januzaj a lot of criticism. He barely even touched the ball, not because it was his fault. Players were giving crap passes to him putting him in 50/50 situations. Rooney's long balls were a mystery. Why do that with a defender right next to him? The defender obviously has enough time to contest the ball.

There was only one time where he messed up, giving the ball away in the process in their half and City had a good counter attack.
 

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Jeez... Everything is falling apart with Smalling and Rojo to an extent, and Januzaj is getting picked on for his 35 minute cameo when he didn't do a lot, but certainly didn't screw up.

I really don't know why I read what other people say on a message board when 99% of the time it's ridiculous uninformed bile.
It's really ridiculous. He starrted of really well when he turned Clichy and Jovetic early on.
 

FC Ronaldo

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I suspect if Clichy didn't foul him Januzaj's performance would be seen completely different by some people.
No, he'd have still had 67% pass completion, 0 chances created and 0 tackles.

In short, no attacking output, no defensive output and also a poor midfield output.
 

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No, he'd have still had 67% pass completion, 0 chances created and 0 tackles.

In short, no attacking output, no defensive output and also a poor midfield output.
Played about 30 minutes so hardly shocking that.

You do have something against him though. Wonder if you were so harsh on Ronaldo when he was tripping over his own feet at 19
 

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No, he'd have still had 67% pass completion, 0 chances created and 0 tackles.

In short, no attacking output, no defensive output and also a poor midfield output.
This is obscene. Anyone could put numbers up like that to make a point. You're so busy bashing a 19 year old who played 35 minutes and hardly put a foot wrong that you've failed to wipe the foam gathering around the edges of your mouth.

Why not have a pop at James Wilson while you're at it too. That'd be about as rational.
 

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Played about 30 minutes so hardly shocking that.

You do have something against him though. Wonder if you were so harsh on Ronaldo when he was tripping over his own feet at 19
I'm sure he was. But as soon as Ronaldo cemented himself as a star, he would have been the first to jump on the bandwagon.
 

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Simply has got to do more before starting games of such magnitude for us. I'm all for giving him games, but away to City at this point is too much to ask of him.
 

FC Ronaldo

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Or I'm just stating facts and don't have the CAF tinted view of him you lot do. He needs to produce more. Fact.
 

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Started well enough I thought. His decision making remains poor at times. Would have been interesting to see how he would have got on further into the game, but Smalling is a donkey.
 

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Or I'm just stating facts and don't have the CAF tinted view of him you lot do. He needs to produce more. Fact.
Well, yes he does but it's not like he's done nothing. Played he pass of the match against Chelsea and then you have to consider that his best position is not out wide either.
 

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Or I'm just stating facts and don't have the CAF tinted view of him you lot do. He needs to produce more. Fact.
You could say that about everyone, but why the feck you point out a 19 year old who played 35 decent minutes whilst playing at City as your target clearly shows you're out to lunch. Jog on.
 

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He looks very predicatable right now. Probably suffering from the second season syndrome. Will come good eventually, I have no doubt.
 

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No, he'd have still had 67% pass completion, 0 chances created and 0 tackles.

In short, no attacking output, no defensive output and also a poor midfield output.
67% means crap when there are only 9 passes. Maybe if he had gotten the ball more he could have passed the ball back some more so the passing% goes up, but then you would criticize him for not being more adventurous.

And those 0 chances created have a lot to do with that Clichy foul which is why I highlighted it. In your eyes his performance would have been better had that foul not been made because of all the space to dribble into (with no defenders in front of him) after he had wasted Clichy with a great turn.

You should be more bothered by the crap passes that went his way that were much to short for him to reach. That's where his quietness stemmed from.
 

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Well, yes he does but it's not like he's done nothing. Played he pass of the match against Chelsea and then you have to consider that his best position is not out wide either.
Yep, there is that but while Mata and Rooney are fit and available he won't see time as a 10. He has to learn to produce elsewhere to force the issue. He isn't doing so consistently and in a phase where Utd need points more than blooding a kid with blind faith, the performances are not up to par to start games yet.

Even if you excuse today's 30 odd minutes
 

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He is showing some of the 'early Ronaldo' traits. I used to be massively disappointed with his decision making and trying to take shot almost every time in early years, to the point I had thought it would be 'good riddance' after his fight with Rooney in 2006 WC and the subsequent transfer rumours. Though Januzaj don't have same level of tricks, he has lot of potential and with time he will improve. If he improves in decision making and shooting even half as Ronaldo did, we will still have a very good player on our hand.
 

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Simply has got to do more before starting games of such magnitude for us. I'm all for giving him games, but away to City at this point is too much to ask of him.
Who would you play instead? We don't have any other wingers. Valencia was RB and Young was injured.
 

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Yep, there is that but while Mata and Rooney are fit and available he won't see time as a 10. He has to learn to produce elsewhere to force the issue. He isn't doing so consistently and in a phase where Utd need points more than blooding a kid with blind faith, the performances are not up to par to start games yet.

Even if you excuse today's 30 odd minutes
He's fecking 19. Which player is consistent at 19?? Messi?

And LVG did not play him on blind faith. Januzaj did more against Chelsea than either Di Maria and Mata (from open play anyway). If he was doing nothing then yeah fair enough but he's doing some nice things albeit in fits and starts.
 

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Not for me. Lots of teams now paying attention to Di Maria more. Januzaj has had the ball a lot and done nothing. Can you remember a chance he's created?
He was being closed down by 3 players most of the time.Not sure how he can contribute from situations like those.But he seemed more determined to get involved or create opportunities etc etc.
 

FC Ronaldo

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As for all of the Ronaldo comparison digs coming my way, I'll state facts again -

Ronaldo was more fortunate due to us not lying too far down the table and needing points quite as desperately as we do now. We could afford time to allow him to iron out the flaws and gain experience, both good and bad. Ronaldo's hot headedness is a trait thankfully Adnan doesn't yet show at senior level.

Adnan for all his skills and ability is in a tricky situation, not good enough to deliver consistently but also in a team lying far below the level it should be in the league. He needs games, he needs time. We have games, we're running out of time.

In short, our league positions and pressures allow for leniency. Ronaldo was in a safer and easier time for youth to develop. Januzaj isn't and it's getting worse, not better.
 

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Who would you play instead? We don't have any other wingers. Valencia was RB and Young was injured.
A diamond with one of Herrera/Mata in place of him? As bad Mata has been recently, he does a little more than Januzaj for my liking. As for Herrera, he's made our bench for the Chelsea game, so I'd expected him to be fit enough to have started this game.
 

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As for all of the Ronaldo comparison digs coming my way, I'll state facts again -

Ronaldo was more fortunate due to us not lying too far down the table and needing points quite as desperately as we do now. We could afford time to allow him to iron out the flaws and gain experience, both good and bad. Ronaldo's hot headedness is a trait thankfully Adnan doesn't yet show at senior level.

Adnan for all his skills and ability is in a tricky situation, not good enough to deliver consistently but also in a team lying far below the level it should be in the league. He needs games, he needs time. We have games, we're running out of time.

In short, our league positions and pressures allow for leniency. Ronaldo was in a safer and easier time for youth to develop. Januzaj isn't and it's getting worse, not better.
All very good, but who should have played ahead of him? Mata has been worse, Herrera and Falcao are injured. And please don't say Valencia or Young.

You also ignore the good things he's done in the last 2 games and continue with your "he's done nothing" stance which is blatantly untrue.
 

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A diamond with one of Herrera/Mata in place of him? As bad Mata has been recently, he does a little more than Januzaj for my liking. As for Herrera, he's made our bench for the Chelsea game, so I'd expected him to be fit enough to have started this game.
Fellaini is (correctly IMO) keeping Herrera out of the team right now. If we keep playing with wingers, Januzaj is a better option than Valencia and Young. The diamond with Herrera/Blind kept getting overwhelmed in midfield - it probably isn't the long term solution.
 

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How someone can even judge that performance is beyond me. Barely saw the ball. He had one mistake which is the failed pass by City's box that led to their counterattack. How many times was their a ball sent his way that didn't reach him? That was more of a factor in his quiet performance than any of his actual playing.
 
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