Mourinho at Chelsea

[ItsEssexRob]

I take the point on your midfield being strong anyway, and that's probably the clincher, but it still surprises me he's on the list given that as you say injury has played a large part in his loss of form. Guess it's like Fergie's old saying about the club being a bus that's always moving (or something), but it's a bit of a shame for the lad. I would say 25 mill is a bit of a steal for someone.

No way is he the first one I would sell if money was no issue, but hes the one that would probably generate the most money given the quality we already have there.

 

[Kentonio]

End of last season, the world cup and the start of this season I thought he would kick on and become one of the better players inh the league, but with a combination of poor form and injury this has not come to be. The rumour is we would sell him and Salah to raise money for Varane/Rues/Pique. Which makes sense seeing as the only area we havent been 100% in this season is defence and we are awash with midfield quality without Salah and Schurrle. Salah would probably sell for around 15 million and Schurrle mid 20's. Although I wouldnt bet against us to get more given our recent record.

Can't sell both unless we're getting in another AM, otherwise we go from very strong depth there to very light.

 

[Theafonis]

Can't sell both unless we're getting in another AM, otherwise we go from very strong depth there to very light.

I think Mohamed Salah is a good player. I hope he stays.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

I think Mohamed Salah is a good player. I hope he stays.

I like him but hes clearly not a top level player, but handy to have as a squad player. Him Schurrle and Cech are the players we have to fund new signings right now. We should be looking at 60m-70m for all 3.

 

[Kentonio]

I like him but hes clearly not a top level player, but handy to have as a squad player.

Like Schurrle though, he's still young. Personally I'd move on Cech (although not to an English team) and Salah, and keep Schurrle. I just get the feeling that Schurrle could become an incredibly good player if his composure improves.

 

[Hemil]

I like him but hes clearly not a top level player, but handy to have as a squad player. Him Schurrle and Cech are the players we have to fund new signings right now. We should be looking at 60m-70m for all 3.

Who do you think we will get as a second keeper?

 

[Bazi]

Just out of curiosity, how are Chelsea's contract negotiations with Eden Hazard going along? Is there a chance the Belgian is seriously looking for an exit from Stamford Bridge?

Chelsea would have to sell next summer, if they wanted to cash in on his full market value which is probably in the € 70M range with Hazard's contract expiring in 2017.

How big are the chances he's going to extend his contract?

 

[Hemil]

Just out of curiosity, how are Chelsea's contract negotiations with Eden Hazard going along? Is there a chance the Belgian is seriously looking for an exit from Stamford Bridge?

Chelsea would have to sell next summer, if they wanted to cash in on his full market value which is probably in the € 70M range with Hazard's contract expiring in 2017.

How big are the chances he's going to extend his contract?

He has repeatedly said it that he is not going anywhere. Oscar signed a contract last week. Hazard will follow suit soon. He's not going anywhere in the near future.

 

[Kentonio]

Who do you think we will get as a second keeper?

We've still got Mark Schwarzer.

 

[Deleted member 78215]

I like him but hes clearly not a top level player, but handy to have as a squad player. Him Schurrle and Cech are the players we have to fund new signings right now. We should be looking at 60m-70m for all 3.

What?

Unless you can scam it like you did with Luiz, no chance would those 3 get those figures.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

What?

Unless you can scam it like you did with Luiz, no chance would those 3 get those figures.

I dont see why Cech couldnt sell for say 23 million Schurrle 25 million, and Salah for say 12-15 million.

We got about 115 for the likes of Luiz, Mata and Lukaku so could easily get that figure for the above.

 

[Kentonio]

Cechs only got a year and a half left doesnt it? He's easily worth £20m, but I'm not convinced we'd get it.

 

[BobbyManc]

I dont see why Cech couldnt sell for say 23 million Schurrle 25 million, and Salah for say 12-15 million.

We got about 115 for the likes of Luiz, Mata and Lukaku so could easily get that figure for the above.

Cech will sell for about £10m. He's a sub-keeper. Clubs have no need to pay anything more than that for him, the onus is on Chelsea to find a buyer. Schurrle and Salah could fetch the fees you suggest. Cech definitely not though.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I dont see why Cech couldnt sell for say 23 million Schurrle 25 million, and Salah for say 12-15 million.

We got about 115 for the likes of Luiz, Mata and Lukaku so could easily get that figure for the above.

Manuel Neuer widely acknowledged to be the best goalkeeper in his prime went for 24 million. If someone is willing to pay 23 million for Cech now, I'd like to sell them a Bebe.

 

[Kag]

Cechs only got a year and a half left doesnt it? He's easily worth £20m, but I'm not convinced we'd get it.

Put it this way, if De Gea was to tell us he's leaving then I'd more than welcome the club buying Cech for £20 million. Expensive, yes, but sparing Roy Carroll-like nonsense would be more than worth it. Chelsea just need to find a club that desperate. Liverpool, perhaps, though they wouldn't pay that sort of money.

 

[CLARiiON]

Cech is 15m as per transfermarkt, and going down. This is obvious with him being no.2 and 1.5 yrs left in contract.

 

[Ruht]

Wouldn't put it past PSG to pay £23m for Cech to be honest.

 

[Barney]

Cech will go for around 10. Have to factor in his large wages.
No way does Salah go for more than they paid. He'll probably be the next of the Chelsea signings to be shoved out on loan.
Doubt Schurrle goes for 25m. Probably 15-20m.

 

[ItsEssexRob]

Wouldn't put it past PSG to pay £23m for Cech to be honest.

Exactly, we get inflated fee's. A player of Schurrles rating would easily get over 20 million, especially if Lukaku is worth 28.

 

[Barney]

Exactly, we get inflated fee's. A player of Schurrles rating would easily get over 20 million, especially if Lukaku is worth 28.

Lukaku only went for that after having a season on loan at Everton. He's also a kid and he's been touted as one of the best prospects around since he was 16.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

Cech will go for around 10. Have to factor in his large wages.

Is there any chance you lot can get Cech?

 

[Barney]

Is there any chance you lot can get Cech?

Probably not considering they wouldn't even sell Bertrand to us. Would be delighted with Cech, though my real dream signing is Lloris.

 

[Hemil]

We've still got Mark Schwarzer.

Cech won't leave in Jan. Schwarzer is retiring in summer. We will need to sign a good keeper.

 

[antihenry]

I like him but hes clearly not a top level player, but handy to have as a squad player. Him Schurrle and Cech are the players we have to fund new signings right now. We should be looking at 60m-70m for all 3.

60-70? You've got to be kidding Rob. Schurrle may fetch around 20 or so, Salah was bought for 12 and barely played since then so his stock is even lower now. Don't know what Cech's transfer value is, but keepers, even top quality ones don't normally cost a lot and he's already 32. So you're way off in your calculations.

 

[Kentonio]

It seems crazy how little keepers go for, considering their importance to teams. Cech is still a world top 5 keeper, and yet we're talking about possible fees around 10-20m. Seems mad.

 

[Manucho the boss]

It seems crazy how little keepers go for, considering their importance to teams. Cech is still a world top 5 keeper, and yet we're talking about possible fees around 10-20m. Seems mad.

Not all keepers will stay at the top of their game until they're 38-40 though. Cech will be 33 come to Summer, no 33 year old goes for big money.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Cech is only 32?! It seems like he's been around for donkey years!

 

[Kentonio]

Not all keepers will stay at the top of their game until they're 38-40 though. Cech will be 33 come to Summer, no 33 year old goes for big money.

It's not just Cech though, can you think of any keeper that's gone for serious cash (comparatively to outfield players) other than Buffon? I can't, and it just seems odd considering their importance. I'd have thought a top class keeper would come pretty high on the list of must have players for a serious title contending side, so why the low values?

 

[Kentonio]

Cech is only 32?! It seems like he's been around for donkey years!

He was only about 22 when we signed him.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

He was only about 22 when we signed him.

Cheers, didn't know he was that young (and even younger when in France). It's harsh he's benched, he's probably got a minimum of 5 years at top level in him, though I understand the rationale on Chelsea's end.

 

[Balu]

It's not just Cech though, can you think of any keeper that's gone for serious cash (comparatively to outfield players) other than Buffon? I can't, and it just seems odd considering their importance. I'd have thought a top class keeper would come pretty high on the list of must have players for a serious title contending side, so why the low values?

They rarely move in their prime. How many top quality keepers actually changed clubs after they turned 25? Neuer went for 28m Euro with only one year left on his contract, which is a lot of money considering his contract situation.

 

[Hemil]

I think Cech is still worth 20mn..but his contract is up soon..PSG will be ready to pay 20 in the summer tho..

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Cheers, didn't know he was that young (and even younger when in France). It's harsh he's benched, he's probably got a minimum of 5 years at top level in him, though I understand the rationale on Chelsea's end.

Cech's age at the time put Ferguson off signing him, Cech's performances at such a young age is one of the reasons Ferguson was then keen to sign a young de Gea.

 

[Hemil]

They rarely move in their prime. How many top quality keepers actually changed clubs after they turned 25? Neuer went for 28m Euro with only one year left on his contract, which is a lot of money considering his contract situation.

VDS changed twice..

 

[Kentonio]

They rarely move in their prime. How many top quality keepers actually changed clubs after they turned 25? Neuer went for 28m Euro with only one year left on his contract, which is a lot of money considering his contract situation.

I suppose the question then becomes though whether the low values are the reason why they rarely move, or a result of that. I'd imagine if agents thought they could get large cuts, that they'd be pushing their clients to consider more frequent moves. It's an odd one though.

 

[Balu]

VDS changed twice..

He left Ajax on a free if I'm not mistaken. And because of his failure at Juventus wasn't considered a top keeper anymore when he moved to England. His career is really unusual for a top keeper.

 

[roykeane19]

Looks as if chelsea will run away with the PL, doesnt look like they have any proper competitor in 2nd place, man city are a shambles this season, and southampton cant keep going like this till the end of the season...........can they?

 

[Orc]

Looks as if chelsea will run away with the PL, doesnt look like they have any proper competitor in 2nd place, man city are a shambles this season, and southampton cant keep going like this till the end of the season...........can they?

Still think City will run them close in the end. There'll be a huge gap between them and third place, though.

The worrying thing is that after Mourinho wins the league this season he'll trim what little fat he has in his team and make another couple of top signings. They'll probably be even stronger next season.

Imperative that we get our shit together in these next two transfer windows or we'll watch them dominate the league for years.

 

[Revan]

I think Cech is still worth 20mn..but his contract is up soon..PSG will be ready to pay 20 in the summer tho..

He's not much better than Sirigu. Also, a 32 years old keeper with only one year left in his contract, isn't worth 20m.

Cheers, didn't know he was that young (and even younger when in France). It's harsh he's benched, he's probably got a minimum of 5 years at top level in him, though I understand the rationale on Chelsea's end.

Really? Courtuis is better, though I don't see how it is harsh.

 

[roykeane19]

Still think City will run them close in the end. There'll be a huge gap between them and third place, though.

The worrying thing is that after Mourinho wins the league this season he'll trim what little fat he has in his team and make another couple of top signings. They'll probably be even stronger next season.

Imperative that we get our shit together in these next two transfer windows or we'll watch them dominate the league for years.

Yeah youre right, Mourinho knows what players he needs for his way of playing, and if you look at their team, they have top quality in every position

Still cant believe how David luiz went for 50mill though, and how they sold mata for 40 mill, even though he was barely being used by Mourinho, sure did amazing business in transfer window

Plus in todays market 30mill for fabregas, and costa was an absolute steal