Louis Van Gaal - Press Conference vs Burnley - Feb 10th

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So, LvG used to be better than Moyes in every way.

Better tactician, but now he's not.

Better in the transfer market, but now he's not.

Better at standing up to big names, but now he's not.

Better at press conferences... but now he's not.
 

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Somehow I suspect he's not a genuine moron.

Allardyce called us "long ball United" and this bothered Van Gaal - who has a massive ego and prides himself on coaching his teams to play with a specific possession-based style - hence he responded. All very petty and unnecessary but really not that big a deal. Just the sort of stuff we were warned to expect when Van Gaal took over. Surprised it took this long for him to pick a fight with someone tbh.

Honestly, the drama and hyperbole in this thread (and so many others in recent weeks) is just weird.
Amen to this
 

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Sam wasn't the first person to say "Long Ball United" I heard Cambridge fans say the same after their game.
It's fair to say we deployed the long ball tactics from the off against Cambridge at home.
 

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Football is about the right ball. Short, long, along the ground or in air hardly matters. However, putting our tallest player up front and hoofing the ball as a tactic means his philosophy and team selections are failing.
It worked on this occasion though. Most important thing about his philosophy is probably getting results and entertainment is of a lower priority. Last summer it worked for the Netherlands as well. This wasn't a performance we haven't seen under Ferguson away from home, difference in the end will be how successful van Gaal will be to excuse it.

The reaction to the way we played or the reaction to LVG's Rafa rant? As for the latter, United fans who ridiculed Rafa and yet defend LVG are the biggest hypocrites. Then again, football fans always are.
Both. I am not even defending him, just saying that this sort of football is nothing new and that van Gaal has always been like this with the media. For the most part, I don't care what managers say and I always thought it was a bit weird to ridicule Benitez, since he wasn't unsuccessful. The grass is always greener and so on, people on here have been coming out with stuff like Moyes' football is preferable to van Gaal's, but last year around this time we were losing and had lost more games than we have under van Gaal. We were also incapable of pulling off a comeback, we basically knew when the opposition was leading there was little chance we'd get back into the game or get a result. I know what I prefer.
 

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I keep hearing people saying we're getting results with v Gaal. I suggest they stop wasting time watching football and just look out for results.
 

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I keep hearing people saying we're getting results with v Gaal. I suggest they stop wasting time watching football and just look out for results.
Plus, we're actually not getting good results at all.
 

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Benitez won trophies everywhere too if you also conveniently ignore all the times he failed.

Perhaps we should get him in as Van Gaal's assistant so we can go around blindly hailing the pair of them as genuises regardless of what they do?

We'd finally have a bond with the scousers.
Perhaps we should so you could have even more episodes on Rage Cafe.
 

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I keep hearing people saying we're getting results with v Gaal. I suggest they stop wasting time watching football and just look out for results.
That's just a straw man. You know well that results are everything in this game. His priority is CL football this season, then finish off his squad in the summer and - hopefully - combine results with the swagger expected at United in his second and subsequent years in charge. For someone who is so mellow and philosophical about everything I find your impatience with the new manager very out of character :(
 

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That's just a straw man. You know well that results are everything in this game. His priority is CL football this season, then finish off his squad in the summer and - hopefully - combine results with the swagger expected at United in his second and subsequent years in charge. For someone who is so mellow and philosophical about everything I find your impatience with the new manager very out of character :(
:wenger: True.

He's getting more to me more than Moyes ever did. That's actually the weird part.
 

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Rodgers would come out and say why it takes a wonderful human being to play long balls and that "There's an old saying about *gulp* long balls that if you play them up to the false 8 who is doing what I call a 'mexican run' you know, a little wee mexican run in there, that they aren't really long but are actually wonderful ways to express angles."
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I find him far more likeable than Moyes was.

I always did like the bad boys though.
 

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He's exceptionally likeable.....amazing conference. You actually feel like he's in charge as well.
 

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$ky sports app headline "what's in LVG's dossier" I wondered wtf was going on then with further inspection it was LVG being LVG. Big Sam has had it now, his used to wine with SAF but LVG might show him his "big balls"
 

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I keep hearing people saying we're getting results with v Gaal. I suggest they stop wasting time watching football and just look out for results.
Sounds like something an Arsenal fan would say. So you rather would have seen entertaining football than the late equaliser?

Plus, we're actually not getting good results at all.
Arsenal had 55 points with 24 games played last season, this season they have 42. Liverpool had 47 to this season's 39. City had 53 to 49. Everton have 27 compared to last season's 45. The league is becoming more balanced. We don't have Sir Alex Ferguson anymore, we've lost 4 games so far compared to 8 games around this time last year, it isn't satisfying, it was always going to be scrappy. It really sounds like people expected things to just go on like they did following Ferguson's retirement.
 

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Well, the Knives are out and lot of the opposition fans are pissing themselves. Doesn't make it right though. We need to calm down a bit.
It makes no difference really, and this isn't the reason why I'm doubting the Van Gaal way. There is enough of a concern in what's happening on the pitch to make me wary.
 

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Sounds like something an Arsenal fan would say. So you rather would have seen entertaining football than the late equaliser?.
We're Manchester United and having assembled some of the best players in the world we can and should expect both entertainment and results on a more consistent basis.
 

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That looked like a typical stunt from political debate when arrogant and confident future president hands over his opponent bunch of statistics that won't matter in a longer run and doesn't necessarily explain the core problems of a country.
It's a weird thing for a manager to do. I find it odd that he cares what Allerdyce has to say bit find it more odd that an educated man with his experience believes he can hide behind "facts" and stats when the world can see that the football is dire. It seems desperate.

I'd much rather he acknowledge that the football has been terrible and reassure the fans that he believes it will get better. As it is I fear he is happy with what he's seeing, although I can't quite believe a manager of his quality would be.
 

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Or maybe I already know that, but it isn't the only point. The long balls from the back are also a problem. However yes ignore that the only thing that is wrong is tempo of the passing.... yeah ok
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Have you seen the presser?

Maintaining dignified silences just isnt Van Gaal. I'd rather see the fiery side of him than the calm one we have seen so far.
His handing out fact sheets is anything but calm. His record speaks for itself and he shouldn't be biting to these kind of comments.

It's just one of numerous odd decisions. I'd prefer calm, calculated and honest appraisals of where we are and an idea of where we're headed.
 

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We're Manchester United and having assembled some of the best players in the world we can and should expect both entertainment and results on a more consistent basis.
These things still didn't happen instantly even under Sir Alex Ferguson. I'm hoping for no less than what you wrote, but from what I've seen this season one thing seems to back, which is the never-say-die attitude.
 

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Gotta say that he bit and got reeled in!

It reeks of an egoist defending himself not the club BUT, even though the press and our rivals will lap it up, it was nowhere near as embarrassing for us as the Benetez rant was for 'pool … fact!
 

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I hope she is sacked for that! Stupid thing to do in front of the cameras.
We really don't have an idea for her facial expression. It could have been something someone had said whilst giving out paperwork.
 

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These things still didn't happen instantly even under Sir Alex Ferguson. I'm hoping for no less than what you wrote, but from what I've seen this season one thing seems to back, which is the never-say-die attitude.
I don't see it that way. I see it as the team being reactive.
 

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We really don't have an idea for her facial expression. It could have been something someone had said whilst giving out paperwork.
It looked very much like she was embarrassed to be sitting beside him. No matter what way you look at it the face she pulled makes LVG come out of this looking even worse.

Others have said she will be sacked. It's very amateur to be pulling faces like that. Her job isn't to react to what the manager says. Is she the same one who called Giggs "David" last season? Obviously not very good at her job.
 

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We're Manchester United and having assembled some of the best players in the world we can and should expect both entertainment and results on a more consistent basis.
Totally agree with that. The issue for me is that the best way to win games is to play good football. We've had luck this season and won games this year that we has no right to win.

Winning games is fine but with the quality we have we should be playing better football.
 

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You know this is big news when some random dude in California like me turns on the radio and hears an hour long debate about Louis's tactics and his reaction to Big Sam's condemnation.

The great thing about being plugged in through the caf is that we're well ahead of conventional wisdom. Louis's tactics are reasonably open to question, yet at the same time he can rightly point to the totality of circumstances he's been dealing with and take pride in the fact that we are currently in fourth place in the table.

My take is that there isn't a single match that we won that we "should not" have won and that at least 3 or 4 matches that we only could manage a draw are matches that we "should have" won. The Leicester City away match is the only outlier in my analysis that I still cannot categorize as a match that we should have won, should have drawn or deserved to lose. Other matches that we only mustered a draw that we should have won can be attributed to poor tactics by the manager.

Anyway, I'm glad to see Louis taking a bit of heat publicly now. He needs to realize that his arrogance alone will not win us matches.
 

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Love this man, how people are annoyed and embarrassed, i dont get it. There are so many interpretations, but people choose the 'he lost it' one. It is part of his character, kind of funnym and arrogant at the same time. I thought it was a rant at first, but he did it in a funny and educational way. The press treat him like a child, he treats them lke a child and Big Sam too. There was nothing wrong with Big Sams comments, but i kind of like it that Louis shows a bit passion.
 

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Where did anyone say it was eithe of those things?
It's obvious some fans think it is by their replies. Still think it's just totally embarrassed our club but not as much as he has embarrassed Himself although he probably doesn't realise that. Imagine the amount of hate moyes would get if he did that last season.

End of the day in that particular game he subbed on fellaini, Why? basically to win crosses and long balls no amount of stats can disprove that. We had 2 creators in mata and Herrera, another striker in Wilson he couldve subbed on but no he chose fellaini that pretty much sums the whole argument up
 

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Here's the full press conference.


Also, the lot of you that is whining about him and the stats. Go support another club please. He knew he was going to be asked the question because the press is well, the fecking press looking for some news. He has never been one to shy away and he put Big Sam in his place. Also he mentions that the media comes to the match and they have opinions about him so he knows most speak crap about him or twist things about what he says as does this story.

Look at this


Idiotic comments. Things like 'lack of changes from LvG during the game' yet LvG brought on Fellaini and Fellaini scored. Idiot. Sounds a lot like some here.

I went to school with the guy in the second vid :lol:

On the whole 'meltdown' thing. It's crazy the amount of people who buy into that stuff. Even after Rafa's 'Fachts' rant didn't Liverpool go on their best run of form of the season? Only that we went on one even better.
 
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