I take it no one bothered to ask him about the Herrera situation? Rooney playing in midfield? Januzaj playing in midfield? Or the fact that we had 6 players playing out of position/in a formation that doesnt suit them against West Ham?
Louis Van Gaal - Press Conference vs Burnley - Feb 10th
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Well, the Knives are out and lot of the opposition fans are pissing themselves. Doesn't make it right though. We need to calm down a bit.
That looked like a typical stunt from political debate when arrogant and confident future president hands over his opponent bunch of statistics that won't matter in a longer run and doesn't necessarily explain the core problems of a country.
I never expected him to stay beyond his contract to be fair. He was brought on to steady the ship and hopefully win a trophy or two if he can.That's about the length of his current contract.
Seriously, you can't make this shit up.
He shouldn't have responded to that and given it more credence than it deserved. Don't get the overreaction here though, it's not like he's breaking down, cracking etc. In fact it looks like he's in control and 'schooling' others which is exactly what one should expect, given his egoistical style.
Unnecessary no doubt but I found it quite funny and condescending even, to a certain extent. Not exactly riled up or anything. Won't be surprised if this isn't his first time rebuking a comment and 'educating' the lesser masses in a press conference. Perhaps @Henrik Larsson or the Bayern fans could give a better insight on his press conference history.
Don't get what all the fuss is about. LVG is eccentric and does some unexpected stuff, surely we should all be aware of it by now. He hasn't done anything cringy here imo. Unnecessary, no doubt, but this is getting overblown by the fans here, who are in fear of being ridiculed by opp fans. So what? Even then it's hardly more cringeworthy than what Mourinho and Rodgers have been spouting. Pulling a Keegan?
Geez...
Unnecessary no doubt but I found it quite funny and condescending even, to a certain extent. Not exactly riled up or anything. Won't be surprised if this isn't his first time rebuking a comment and 'educating' the lesser masses in a press conference. Perhaps @Henrik Larsson or the Bayern fans could give a better insight on his press conference history.
Don't get what all the fuss is about. LVG is eccentric and does some unexpected stuff, surely we should all be aware of it by now. He hasn't done anything cringy here imo. Unnecessary, no doubt, but this is getting overblown by the fans here, who are in fear of being ridiculed by opp fans. So what? Even then it's hardly more cringeworthy than what Mourinho and Rodgers have been spouting. Pulling a Keegan?
Geez...I get the impression that he didn't give them the chance. He went on his rant, if you can call it that. Stunned the press and took their attention away from the important stuff. Clever really.
He also wasn't pissing about with dire football and hanging on by a thread for top 4
Have you seen the presser?
Maintaining dignified silences just isnt Van Gaal. I'd rather see the fiery side of him than the calm one we have seen so far.
We all knew hes an egotistical stubborn fella so i'm not surprised if he went off at the presser and frankly I dont care as long as we get the results we need. This season a CL spot and next season challenge for the title. He'll almost definitely leave when his contract is up.
Van Gaal was never known for his wit or composure regarding the media, he made me laugh more than once with things like this while he was at Munich. I've said this before, van Bommel said it best; great coach, weird man. The comparison with the teaching is accurate, he really thinks he has to educate people and let's face it Jamie Jackson certainly needs it.
The reaction on here is certainly more cringeworthy than the whole thing, then again it's expected given for most it's already decided we aren't playing in Europe next season.
I'm not sure whether it was intentional, but it protects the players and his team, I'm alright with that.
The reaction on here is certainly more cringeworthy than the whole thing, then again it's expected given for most it's already decided we aren't playing in Europe next season.
Just on the whole "people see what they want to see" thing, you'll note that not one person has come up with the standard line you'd expect if Fergie or Mourinho had done something like this. How clever the manager is being at deflecting the attention away from a poor performance from his team and making the media narrative all about him, personally instead. Not saying this was Van Gaal's intention (it probably wasn't on his mind) but it is funny the way people spin stuff depending on how successful the manager is at the time. One manager's "meltdown" is another manager's "mind games", evidently.
EDIT: damn you, @bucky, for making my first sentence a lie!
EDIT: damn you, @bucky, for making my first sentence a lie!
If I was in charge of the presser I'd have simply said:
"I've been learning of Sam"
"I've been learning of Sam"
Jesus Christ, getting trolled by Allardyce? That's just low.
Here's the full press conference.
Also, the lot of you that is whining about him and the stats. Go support another club please. He knew he was going to be asked the question because the press is well, the fecking press looking for some news. He has never been one to shy away and he put Big Sam in his place. Also he mentions that the media comes to the match and they have opinions about him so he knows most speak crap about him or twist things about what he says as does this story.
Look at this
Idiotic comments. Things like 'lack of changes from LvG during the game' yet LvG brought on Fellaini and Fellaini scored. Idiot. Sounds a lot like some here.
Also, the lot of you that is whining about him and the stats. Go support another club please. He knew he was going to be asked the question because the press is well, the fecking press looking for some news. He has never been one to shy away and he put Big Sam in his place. Also he mentions that the media comes to the match and they have opinions about him so he knows most speak crap about him or twist things about what he says as does this story.
Look at this
Idiotic comments. Things like 'lack of changes from LvG during the game' yet LvG brought on Fellaini and Fellaini scored. Idiot. Sounds a lot like some here.
Nail on head, very Rafa.When Big Sam gets in your head, you know you're in trouble!
Come On Louis, you're better than that
Even if it was, believe you me it wasn't by design.
Wasn't his honesty getting the praise in previous press conference threads?
Nail on head, very Rafa.When Big Sam gets in your head, you know you're in trouble!
Come On Louis, you're better than that
Instead he said they were outstanding getting a 0-0 against their local rivals. Not Fahcts, but still pretty crap comment.
Just got home to see Van Gaal's dossier (well, the news about it, I haven't read the actual thing). First thing I thought was "oh, that's all a bit Rafa, isn't it?" Bit...er...bit embarrassing. Well, when I point the finger at players for diving, I always say I don't want to see it from Nani, or Young, or any of our players, so if I'm going to mock Rafa's list of facts, then frankly I have to say that Van Gaal doing this is exactly the same sort of thing.
The stats may well back him up, I don't know, but surely just going "nope, Sam's wrong" would be better than going all "RIGHT, WHERE'S MY PHOTOCOPIER?"
The stats may well back him up, I don't know, but surely just going "nope, Sam's wrong" would be better than going all "RIGHT, WHERE'S MY PHOTOCOPIER?"
This is Van Gaal we're talking about. He was never going to take a dig about playing style from Sam fecking Allardyce lying down.
So this is the Van Gaal everybody said we'll get
To be fair though, Moyes would probably apologise for scoring a late equaliser and making all those press dicks re-write their match report at the last minute.
Rodgers would come out and say why it takes a wonderful human being to play long balls and that "There's an old saying about *gulp* long balls that if you play them up to the false 8 who is doing what I call a 'mexican run' you know, a little wee mexican run in there, that they aren't really long but are actually wonderful ways to express angles."
Rodgers would come out and say why it takes a wonderful human being to play long balls and that "There's an old saying about *gulp* long balls that if you play them up to the false 8 who is doing what I call a 'mexican run' you know, a little wee mexican run in there, that they aren't really long but are actually wonderful ways to express angles."
I won't put it past Van Gaal to select Fellaini from the start and boot a 1000 long balls just to make a point tomorrow.
I think he talks a lot of sense.
We only changed style to accommodate Fellani. Be very surprised if pre-Fellani we had a great deal of long balls as we spent most of the time going sideways and backwards.
That's what we're gonna get from now on....I'm surprised you're the first person to say that in this thread
I'm quiet entertained by it all. Go on Louie
That 2nd chart is completely fabricated.....Moyes has no balls
Number of short passes per game:
Man Utd - 472
West Ham - 302
More passes in general = more long balls and more short passes.
Nothing wrong with that at all.
The single best thing to come out of this, is that the presser woman's name is Karen Shotbolt Such a sensual name
Can you imagine?!
"Give it to me shotbolters.."
"... Love hath bequeath me, My dearest Shotbolt"
Such a sensual name Can you imagine?!
"Give it to me shotbolters.."
"... Love hath bequeath me, My dearest Shotbolt"
I think the significance of this presser should not be underestimated. It's the manager of Manchester United standing up against accusations against the club, team and players. This will give a signal to other managers who fancy mind games with the dutch meistro. He actually went through the statistics whereby other managers whould probably shrug it off. This to me is a clear sign that LvG still has that fire which shaped him into one of the best managers. From the players point of perspective, i would appreciate a manager standing up for his club and team.
The single best thing to come out of this, is that the presser woman's name is Karen Shotbolt
Can you imagine?!
"Give it to me shotbolters.."
"... Love hath bequeath me, My dearest Shotbolt"
Let's be honest
The long and short of it we've been mostly unconvincing entertainment wise.
The long and short of it we've been mostly unconvincing entertainment wise.
For context. Here's Big Sam's interview.
Watch from about 0:50 - 1:20
He doesn't really say anything wrong. He's taking the piss a little bit but essentially all he's said is that we were launching the ball into the box in the end. Not that we were doing it all game.
I'm not sure if LVG even saw his interview or just heard 'long ball United'. He looks like a bit of an idiot really. Saying this, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Watch from about 0:50 - 1:20
He doesn't really say anything wrong. He's taking the piss a little bit but essentially all he's said is that we were launching the ball into the box in the end. Not that we were doing it all game.
I'm not sure if LVG even saw his interview or just heard 'long ball United'. He looks like a bit of an idiot really. Saying this, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Or it shows someone who does not get the English sense of humour.
Van Gaal's been very clear that our play needs to improve.
We've been shocking....Thank Christ Arsenal and Liverpool have had a mare this season
Is he cracking up?
Agree. Although I think Keeagan one will always be a stand out as it was clear to everyone that he was a man under extreme pressure(the ironic image of him slumped in the dug after the final whistle against Liverpool showed that) but with Rafa it didn't really do anything(Although I don't think Fergie was trying anything other than his usual tricks)We still need a last minute macheda winner(
).While managers letting off some steam(Like LVG today) is a bit out of the blue, it's hardly something to take notice off, especially when it comes from experience manager like LVG. Who also has a track record of saying crazy shite.