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Louis Van Gaal - Press Conference vs Burnley - Feb 10th

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Would have been so much classier to just laugh it off, maybe sarcastically suggest we'll be after Andy Carroll in the summer or that he's always keen to hear Big Sam's views on tactics.
I don't think his ego could pass up the opportunity to show everyone just how clever he is. Wagging his finger and pointing to statistics, giving us all a lesson on possession football. Too vain to realize how foolish he made himself look. It's the most energy I've seen him display during his time at the club, even during matches.
 

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The only cringeworthy aspect is everyone acting drama queens about LVG being the man we all knew he was going into this job. He has always been an eccentric professorial type that is more than a bit pedantic. He was always going to call out Big Sam for being wrong, because he cannot resist being himself. I've been expecting him to lecture journalists all season. Remember this staged bit of LVG as a caricature of himself?

 

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Seems like LVG's words had the desired effect. Big Sam has come out saying there is no coach more sophisticated than him in the league. LVG should stick the knife in and ask Big Sam to show us his medals. LOL. I'm sure the same could be said for Moyes "sophisticated... for a hoof merchant".
Big Sam specifically referring to 'foreign' coaches. I really hate that. Screw Big Sam. When he made his comment about 'long ball' United, it didn't sound light-hearted to me. He was just being a twat.
 

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As much as I hate Big Sam, his comments were spot on regarding the long ball, we've all seen it with our eyes and there are some stats to back it up. LVG's reaction to it is just weird. Not shocking but simply weird to me.
 

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Big Sam specifically referring to 'foreign' coaches. I really hate that. Screw Big Sam. When he made his comment about 'long ball' United, it didn't sound light-hearted to me. He was just being a twat.
Of course he was. He is a twat. A twat with a massive chip on his shoulder. Van Gaal shouldn't have given him the pleasure of a response, obviously but Allardyce was blatantly having a go. Nothing light-hearted about it.
 

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As much as I hate Big Sam, his comments were spot on regarding the long ball, we've all seen it with our eyes and there are some stats to back it up. LVG's reaction to it is just weird. Not shocking but simply weird to me.
Did you not read the transcript? Van Gaal admitted we played it long when Fellaini came on but his issue was that this wasn't the pattern of the overall game (or United in general this season). Which it wasn't.
 

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Has he always been this possesion obsessed? I thought his M.O was all about quick, attacking football? Not this slow, ponderous crap?

@Balu ?
Yes. I really think his version of possession football is the most boring around. He doesn't want his team to play pressing high up the pitch, so the players in the final third can't take too many risks or else the defense will be exposed all the time. It's what annoyed me the most during his time at Bayern. Our players ran significantly less than the opponent in every single game and our whole defense was built around keeping the ball between the centerbacks and the defensive midfielders. We never relied as much on individual brilliance to score the first goal as we did during his spell at Bayern. Only then, when the opponent was forced to chase the ball in our half, the space opens up to play the style of football he talks about in his philosophy. I can't count the number of times where he defended the boring shit the team played by ranting at the press conference that we have to be patient and tire out the opponent. It drove me nuts.
 
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Did you not read the transcript? Van Gaal admitted we played it long when Fellaini came on but his issue was that this wasn't the pattern of the overall game (or United in general this season). Which it wasn't.
I read the transcripit, I took Sam's comments as to what they were, an analysis of Utd's match against his team.
 

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He's not responding to big Sam, he's responding to the press hysteria about his comments. The point big Sam was making was that LVG had to resort to 'long' balls with Fellaini as the creative elements had been nullified by his 'superb' midfield and strategy. Sam was complimenting himself but the press have dived on it. To get something out of a match, teams, whoever they are, sometimes have to be physical and basic. So what's the problem? We've seen some bizarre things over the years - Schmeiks coming up for corners, etc. and we've just laughed at all that.

It's a press thing, that's all and LVG was giving stats to the press, not big Sam.
 

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Yes. I really think his version of possession football is the most boring around. He doesn't want his team to play pressing high up the pitch, so the players in the final third can't take too many risks or else the defense will be exposed all the time. It's what annoyed me the most during his time at Bayern. Our players ran significantly less than the opponent in every single game and our whole defense was built around keeping the ball between the centerbacks and the defensive midfielders. We never relied as much on individual brilliance to score the first goal as we did during his spell at Bayern. Only then, when the opponent was forced to chase the ball in our half, the space opens up to play the style of football he talks about in his philosophy. I can't count the number of times where he defended the boring shit the team played by ranting at the press conference that we have to be patient and tire out the opponent. It drove me nuts.
This post worries me more than any other post that has been made in regards to LVG
 

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His reaction at the press conference was bizarre and embarrassing, not becoming of a Manchester United Manager. He is slowly losing that aura and while the team continues to play boring, risk averse football he will become more and more of a target for the press. I was genuinely hoping that he would be the one but I am now convinced he is not.
 

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Well then you would see that they were wrong, surely?
Big Sam said "it was long ball United in the end". Which it was, for the last 20 mins. He never said we were launching the ball forward all game. The journos just sensationalised his comments. I posted Big Sam's interview on another page.
 

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Yes. I really think his version of possession football is the most boring around. He doesn't want his team to play pressing high up the pitch, so the players in the final third can't take too many risks or else the defense will be exposed all the time. It's what annoyed me the most during his time at Bayern. Our players ran significantly less than the opponent in every single game and our whole defense was built around keeping the ball between the centerbacks and the defensive midfielders. We never relied as much on individual brilliance to score the first goal as we did during his spell at Bayern. Only then, when the opponent was forced to chase the ball in our half, the space opens up to play the style of football he talks about in his philosophy. I can't count the number of times where he defended the boring shit the team played by ranting at the press conference that we have to be patient and tire out the opponent. It drove me nuts.
But you had said he laid the foundations for the current Bayern team.
 

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His reaction at the press conference was bizarre and embarrassing, not becoming of a Manchester United Manager. He is slowly losing that aura and while the team continues to play boring, risk averse football he will become more and more of a target for the press. I was genuinely hoping that he would be the one but I am now convinced he is not.
And Ferguson did behave in a manner befitting of a Manchester United manager?

Ferguson behaved in deplorable ways many times as Manchester United manager, lets not pretend that he didn't.

Van Gaal was taking the mic, entertaining a little bit as he likes to at his press conferences. It is hardly swearing at interviewers, banning journalists on whims or cancelling player loans to avenge his son.
 

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Big Sam said "it was long ball United in the end". Which it was, for the last 20 mins. He never said we were launching the ball forward all game. The journos just sensationalised his comments. I posted Big Sam's interview on another page.
You could easily interpret that as "long ball United got the breakthrough in the end" as in we pummelled them with long balls for 90 minutes before nicking a late goal. Which is how Van Gaal (and the journos) interpreted it.
 

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If mourinho had done sthing like that people would say he's protecting his players and stuff..

When you see people write the 'embarassing' word then its time to panic.:D
 

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I can't count the number of times where he defended the boring shit the team played by ranting at the press conference that we have to be patient and tire out the opponent. It drove me nuts.
It worked against us in that 2010 CL game. I thought that we would destroy you after the first 20 mins, alas, Van Gaal's plan worked.

Watching us this season takes me back to that game.
 

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But you had said he laid the foundations for the current Bayern team.
Well yeah, he did. Which is why I wouldn't be too concerned about the boring style and all his antics. It comes with the package, doesn't mean he isn't the right choice for the transition at the moment.
 

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It worked against us in that 2010 CL game. I thought that we would destroy you after the first 20 mins, alas, Van Gaal's plan worked.

Watching us this season takes me back to that game.
What plan? We had them by their balls until the red card to Rafa.
 

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You could easily interpret that as "long ball United got the breakthrough in the end" as in we pummelled them with long balls for 90 minutes before nicking a late goal. Which is how Van Gaal (and the journos) interpreted it.
Maybe, though I think he even mentioned Fellaini. Guess you could interpret that either way too though.
 

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Well yeah, he did. Which is why I wouldn't be too concerned about the boring style and all his antics. It comes with the package, doesn't mean he isn't the right choice for the transition at the moment.
He well could be the right man, but he still has to get us Top 4 and who are we transistioning to. We know that LvG is short term, so I wonder who he will hand his work over to? Not Giggs I hope.
 

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He well could be the right man, but he still has to get us Top 4 and who are we transistioning to. We know that LvG is short term, so I wonder who he will hand his work over to? Not Giggs I hope.
That's why I said this summer that Woodward should search and find LVG successor immediately.
 

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Rodgers would come out and say why it takes a wonderful human being to play long balls and that "There's an old saying about *gulp* long balls that if you play them up to the false 8 who is doing what I call a 'mexican run' you know, a little wee mexican run in there, that they aren't really long but are actually wonderful ways to express angles."
Epic, if I could I'd give this a like. I genuinely can picture Brenton saying that. :lol:
 

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Sounds like rafa's "fachts" rant :nervous:

Opposition fans are gonna lap this up aren't they?
You're not wrong there. I hadnt seen it and got a right going over in the pub after my 5 a side last night!

Having watched it since it isnt as bad as they were making out (a Poo fan, a Saint, a Gooner and a Hammer!), but he's walking a fine line with antics like that.

"Big Sam" must be pissing his smug self today. Sigh
 

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Whatever mourinho does or says nowadays its always to protect his players and move the attention from the team according to many here.
I'm sure many didn't say that when he poked someones eyes out... well at least I hope they didn't.
Mou is an egotistical nutter just like many great managers, you really need to be tbh to control all the big egos in a successful team
 

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I'm sure many didn't say that when he poked someones eyes out... well at least I hope they didn't.
Mou is an egotistical nutter just like many great managers, you really need to be tbh to control all the big egos in a successful team
So is lvg. When Mou was spouting shit about a war against chelsea people were still on about him protecting the players instead of saying he spouts absolute bollocks. now lvg had a little rant people are making a far bigger deal out if it than it really is.