The man in the grey flannel suit, Frank O'Farrell, looks at the camera whilst a bored looking set of players hang around waiting for orders. If memory serves, the man with the ball at his feet is Malcolm Musgrove but who's the man on the right?
Awesome United pics
- Thread starter Mali_Zeus
- Start date
The man in the grey flannel suit, Frank O'Farrell, looks at the camera whilst a bored looking set of players hang around waiting for orders. If memory serves, the man with the ball at his feet is Malcolm Musgrove but who's the man on the right?
Left to right: Ian Storey-Moore, Jimmy Rimmer, Tony Young, Malcolm Musgrove, Frank O'Farrell, carlo Sartori, Sammy McIlroy, Alex Stepney, David Sadler, Tony Dunne, Laurie Brown (foreground) and Bobby Charlton.
The man in the grey flannel suit, Frank O'Farrell, looks at the camera whilst a bored looking set of players hang around waiting for orders. If memory serves, the man with the ball at his feet is Malcolm Musgrove but who's the man on the right?
Wilf didn't buy him…Matt did behind Wilf's back which caused quite a few problems between the two.
Wilf actually wanted Colin Todd.
Not sure that's against Swansea…his first league goal was a volley. This looks like Spurs.
As we're on the subject of rarity, here's Garry Birtles scoring his first goal for United against Swansea in 1981.
There was a joke doing the rounds at the time. The Mary Rose had just been raised from the Channel floor where she had lain for over 400 years. As she broke the surface, a Tudor sailor popped his head out of a porthole and said "has Garry Birtles scored for United yet?" You had to be there...
Of course, he had scored in the League Cup some time earlier.
Yes. I think some Scousers came to Salford on Friday night and someone got glassed. Word went round, and United, in large numbers, were on every corner waiting for the arrival for the of scouse fans.
You sensed it in the air, I walked over from the Lowry on the Quays - that is where I lived, and as I crossed the bridge you just heard 'get into them' and United rushing a large Scouse group with a pretty small police escort to tell the truth. Carried on from the bridge to the Premier Inn, where loads of cops came running down from OT, with an even bigger contingent United fans from Sam Platts and Sir Matt Busby Way...etc.
When the Mickey Owen put them ahead on about 3 mins, you just felt it was going to turn even more nasty. Thank fully Ole stole the show in the last few minutes and the Scousers were left to shed a tear. I stayed in OT to have a few bevvies after the game, and the cameras were on all the Scouse fans looking as though their world had just fell apart
. United fans were still waiting for them as they came out
.Apart from Leeds and City in the 70s, I don't recall the atmosphere being so nasty, maybe '85 Cup semi-final against Liverpool. Usually it is hatred, but not to the point of hundreds of fans wanting to kick the shit out of someone.
Ok, fair enough but I remember him being trotted out with Wilf for the press. I still don't think he was a United player.
There was a lot of violence at Liverpool games especially around Victoria Station. There was more violence with them than early all the other clubs. Do you recall the visit of Glasgow Rangers in about 1974 or there abouts? There were running battles all over the place and in the ground. The Scots fans arrived in Manchester early and were well drunk hours before the game. Our first game against Leeds coming back to the First Division in 1975-76 saw some heavy fighting.Yes. I think some Scousers came to Salford on Friday night and someone got glassed. Word went round, and United, in large numbers, were on every corner waiting for the arrival for the of scouse fans.
You sensed it in the air, I walked over from the Lowry on the Quays - that is where I lived, and as I crossed the bridge you just heard 'get into them' and United rushing a large Scouse group with a pretty small police escort to tell the truth. Carried on from the bridge to the Premier Inn, where loads of cops came running down from OT, with an even bigger contingent United fans from Sam Platts and Sir Matt Busby Way...etc.
When the Mickey Owen put them ahead on about 3 mins, you just felt it was going to turn even more nasty. Thank fully Ole stole the show in the last few minutes and the Scousers were left to shed a tear. I stayed in OT to have a few bevvies after the game, and the cameras were on all the Scouse fans looking as though their world had just fell apart
Apart from Leeds and City in the 70s, I don't recall the atmosphere being so nasty, maybe '85 Cup semi-final against Liverpool. Usually it is hatred, but not to the point of hundreds of fans wanting to kick the shit out of someone.
It's Swansea. Birtles first league goal was against Swansea. He scored one goal prior to that in an FA Cup tie against Brighton the previous season. Besides, Spurs wore a crest, not visible in this shot.
Here's another photo from the same game. Swansea did have a crest but wore it in the middle of their shirt.
Last edited:
Wov it really sounds nasty. It seems scousers wanted to cause trouble.Yes. I think some Scousers came to Salford on Friday night and someone got glassed. Word went round, and United, in large numbers, were on every corner waiting for the arrival for the of scouse fans.
You sensed it in the air, I walked over from the Lowry on the Quays - that is where I lived, and as I crossed the bridge you just heard 'get into them' and United rushing a large Scouse group with a pretty small police escort to tell the truth. Carried on from the bridge to the Premier Inn, where loads of cops came running down from OT, with an even bigger contingent United fans from Sam Platts and Sir Matt Busby Way...etc.
When the Mickey Owen put them ahead on about 3 mins, you just felt it was going to turn even more nasty. Thank fully Ole stole the show in the last few minutes and the Scousers were left to shed a tear. I stayed in OT to have a few bevvies after the game, and the cameras were on all the Scouse fans looking as though their world had just fell apart
Apart from Leeds and City in the 70s, I don't recall the atmosphere being so nasty, maybe '85 Cup semi-final against Liverpool. Usually it is hatred, but not to the point of hundreds of fans wanting to kick the shit out of someone.
I remember the guy with an earring crying when Ole scoled.
Atmosphere looks electric even in video, I can online imagine how it was in the stands..
I remember the Liverpool game at Old Trafford in November 1972. There were 80 odd arrests in the ground and fans running from the Stretford End to get at the Scousers in the Scoreboard. We won that match 2-0 with Wyn Davies and Ted MacDougall scoring. Image credit. www.strettynews.com
Last edited:
i just created a single thread on this one for some reason that i do not recall at the moment, but i'm going to leave this here as well..
i spotted a beautifully crafted united-fanboy tuktuk on the streets of negombo, sri lanka - look at that magnificent vehicle!
...that's it. did i ride it? of course! i cranked that sh*t up to almost 40mph!
i spotted a beautifully crafted united-fanboy tuktuk on the streets of negombo, sri lanka - look at that magnificent vehicle!
...that's it. did i ride it? of course! i cranked that sh*t up to almost 40mph!
Last edited:
Yes. I fecking hate Rangers to this day. It was a hastily-arranged "friendly" as I recall and Docherty said afterwards that he'd never play another. Contrast that to the Celtic fans who came down for Bobby's testimonial game. I jumped on a 264 in town that night. I was late and missed my mates who'd gone on early. I went upstairs and it was full of Celtic fans. I had my red and white scarf on and I thought I was dead. They made room for me and someone draped an Irish flag over me and I suddenly acquired a bus full of new mates.
that's around 20 tuktuks of new mates!
The Rangers fans kept going on about us being a Catholic club with too many Irish nationalists. At the time I never understood it, and didn't care with all the fighting. Later a Rangers fan told me it was triggered by our political allegiance to Celtic. I just thought they were drunken thugs looking for violence and robbing with no interest in the game. I don't think we have repeated the experience of friendlies with Rangers - agree they're to be despised.
There were a few odd games where violence got carried away. Norwich we mentioned earlier, Chelski and the London games could be spicy. There was one game at Spurs, about 1973, one of Bestie's last games, that turned crazy. The fighting started in Euston and spread to the Underground. A load of fans got on the Victoria Line and got off at Seven Sisters and then went down the road to Spurs. There was a lot of fighting and the police kept arresting fans and putting them in black vans. Funnily enough we got rounded up and forced on to a train to White Hart Lane. We got into the ground and the fighting was kicking off everywhere. The Shelf saw lots of trouble that day. Afterwards there were constant battles as other Cockney clubs joined in.
There's a a silent film of the game here:-
http://streaming.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00091000/00091169.mp4.m3u8
There were a few odd games where violence got carried away. Norwich we mentioned earlier, Chelski and the London games could be spicy. There was one game at Spurs, about 1973, one of Bestie's last games, that turned crazy. The fighting started in Euston and spread to the Underground. A load of fans got on the Victoria Line and got off at Seven Sisters and then went down the road to Spurs. There was a lot of fighting and the police kept arresting fans and putting them in black vans. Funnily enough we got rounded up and forced on to a train to White Hart Lane. We got into the ground and the fighting was kicking off everywhere. The Shelf saw lots of trouble that day. Afterwards there were constant battles as other Cockney clubs joined in.
There's a a silent film of the game here:-
http://streaming.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00091000/00091169.mp4.m3u8
Denis had a great comment about O'Farrell. Something like he came and went without ever talking to anyone. Didn't he wear a trilby and dress almost like Bertie Mee at games? Strange choice of manager, perhaps an indication of how far Busby had lost touch without Jimmy Murphy's input.
The man in the grey flannel suit, Frank O'Farrell, looks at the camera whilst a bored looking set of players hang around waiting for orders. If memory serves, the man with the ball at his feet is Malcolm Musgrove but who's the man on the right?
Strange one with Rangers. A friendly and no one expected them to turn up. Guys running around with axes. They were in the stretford end and then it kicked off. They will argue they took the stretford end, probably a hollow victory as they went in from the gates, not like they came from other sides.
I stand corrected. Good photo of Birtles…where did you get it?It's Swansea. Birtles first league goal was against Swansea. He scored one goal prior to that in an FA Cup tie against Brighton the previous season. Besides, Spurs wore a crest, not visible in this shot.
Here's another photo from the same game. Swansea did have a crest but wore it in the middle of their shirt.
No one expected trouble at OT so there was no real segregation. The message from the city about their behaviour in town never reached the ground. The level of hate they dished out was totally out of proportion to the game. Some lads burned their Rangers and tartan scarves. The level of ill feeling resurfaced in Manchester for the CL and is recalled here:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/comment-why-rangers-hate-the-reds-1154705
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ews/comment-why-rangers-hate-the-reds-1154705
Found it in the MEN archives. There's all kinds of good stuff in there. The one thing I can't seem to find is photos of old reserve and youth matches. Do you have any you can post?
Got chased by a bunch of them down round Victoria bus station. Good job they were pissed and couldn't run otherwise I'd have been killed. These weren't kids either but grown men.
Loads in my book "Sons of United"…and also on my Flickr site https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrmujac/?
www.sonsofunited.com
1975 and United were playing some great football. Then, for reasons best known to himself, The Doc dropped Alex Stepney and installed a very inexperienced Paddy Roche in his place. Bless him, Paddy tried his best but we got turned over by City, Liverpool, and Arsenal. Here's a shot from the game at Anfield we'd all rather forget happened.
What about the Rangers fans rioting and devastating Manchester in 2008 before Uefa cup final.
That looked disgusting.
United and Celtic fans are in good relations I reckon?
That looked disgusting.
United and Celtic fans are in good relations I reckon?
In my experience (I've no love for either team or set of fans) Celtic fans hate Newco Rangers fans with a passion. Its intense. However it's limited to Newco Rangers fans and they seem to get along with everyone else.
Newco Rangers fans, on the other hand, are bred to hate everyone who isn't a Loyalist Protestant, or sympathizer.
They're bigoted, racist, xenophobic, hate LGBT and basically anyone that doesn't have a Union flag tattooed on them somewhere.
It seems to like that too.
Dont like 'they're as bad as each other' stuff cause its simply isnt true.
I think you'd never see Celtic fans rioting and braking stuff like Rangers did in Manchester.
They were in Zagreb in December and they were great. Not so sure Newco fans would be so great. Quite the contrary, especially since we're a Catholic country.
.jpg)
Didn't know Ron Jeremy played for Oxford.
You can quite clearly see him boasting about his wang.
Six of the Best! George Best returned to the United from suspension and marked the occasion by scoring six goals against Northampton Town. United won 8-2 with the other to being scored by Brian Kidd. Frank Large scored twice for the home side whose goalie that day was the brother of Manchester City captain, Tony Book.
The Return of the King. Eric came back after a lengthy suspension for drop-kicking Matthew Simmons and scored a point-saving penalty against the dippers.
That celebration
Andy Cole celebrates one of five goals he scored against Ipswich Town twenty (yes, twenty) years ago.
That was such a great day, I was almost delirious by the end.
The Return of the King. Eric came back after a lengthy suspension for drop-kicking Matthew Simmons and scored a point-saving penalty against the dippers.
Time flies. Remember when we began to jokingly boo him after his goals, when he missed a couple of chances!
Andy Cole celebrates one of five goals he scored against Ipswich Town twenty (yes, twenty) years ago.
I was 10 at the time, i specifically remember my granddad saying the 3-0 halftime scoreline was enough and we could take it easy in the second half haha
Andy Cole celebrates one of five goals he scored against Ipswich Town twenty (yes, twenty) years ago.
What are your feelings towards Paul Ince? ( so a pic up there so it crossed my mind )
Does his playing for the scousers make him a negative person in the eyes of United fans despite the fact he was solid for us.
Does his playing for the scousers make him a negative person in the eyes of United fans despite the fact he was solid for us.