Rooney as the #10, Chicharito as the striker

slir32

Full Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2009
Messages
6,402
Location
Sydney
What about Rooney's games says that he should be starting as a number 10? Januzaj is playing better than, along with most other players.
It has nothing to do with Rooney's game starting as a #10 and everything to do with him unfortunately being captain.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,837
Location
india
It has nothing to do with Rooney's game starting as a #10 and everything to do with him unfortunately being captain.
We should drop him in that case. Januzaj has been far better and had some very bright moments in his 60 minutes today. Rooney will start of course, you are right about that, but I think both him and Hernandez will take too much technical quality out of the team. Rooney's touch is like a concrete wall right now, and Herndandez has never been the most technical. It just isn't suited to the way we play to play that way. Maybe if they were both 4 years younger and that mobile and we were playing Fergie-style, but I don't think it makes sense in today's context.
 

Hoof the ball

Full Member
Joined
Jan 16, 2008
Messages
12,403
Location
San Antonio, Texas.
Kind of funny but didn't LvG say in the first place when he joined that Rooney was more of a no. 10, and that on the advice of media, fans, etc, Rooney should play no.9?

Suppose LvG was right, afterall?
 

waza7111

Full Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2013
Messages
1,107
I would rather play Juan Mata at number 10 and leave Rooney as the striker.
 

Amadaeus

Pochémon Fan Club Chairman
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
9,234
Location
Amongst footballing managerial 'Gods'
Perhaps one of the worst idea I have seen in awhile. Basically, you are implying that we play two players who have questionable first touch, build up play and even prolificacy if you look at current statistic. That will not solve our problem, but further aggrevate it and make our football even worse.

If we have to work with what we have, it is imperative that we bring Fellaini into our team alongside someone else, rather than the combination you mentioned. As Fellaini at least provides an attacking outlet.
 

Walters_19_MuFc

Full Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
29,708
Location
Birmingham
If we're going to drop Rooney in to the number 10 position, then I'd prefer we try and get a world class striker. Hernandez is good as an impact player.
 

pacifictheme

Full Member
Joined
Sep 28, 2013
Messages
7,793
And Memphis missed a great chance last week against Villa. Hernandez should have done better with that chance, but it happened so quickly and he has not played much for a while now. Let's not rush to judge him.
I think we both know Hernandez is hit and miss. More so than Rooney. Nowhere near good enough to lead the line.
 

clarkydaz

Full Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2013
Messages
13,469
Location
manchester
Kind of funny but didn't LvG say in the first place when he joined that Rooney was more of a no. 10, and that on the advice of media, fans, etc, Rooney should play no.9?

Suppose LvG was right, afterall?
LVG actually said early on Rooney wasn't good enough to be his striker, when RVP and Falcao were here. Not sure what changed
 

prarek

Full Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2012
Messages
8,636
Rooney does not have the first touch, passing, technique or vision to be a no.10. His first instinct is always to play it wide. That's not playmaking.
 

SirAF

Ageist
Joined
Sep 28, 2003
Messages
37,696
Location
Rooney's first touch and technique is not good enough for the #10 role.
 

Lewis.no.9

New Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2014
Messages
2,077
People who doubted saf trying to offload Rooney a few years ago. Look at the mess keeping him gives us
 

Jazz

Just in case anyone missed it. I don't like Mount.
Joined
Feb 11, 2014
Messages
31,099
Rooney not good enough as striker or No.10. We fans are trying to shoe horn him into the team at all costs. Either he does his job up top, or he goes on the bench. If he plays at 10 and gives crap performances there too, where else are we gonna play him - in defence, goal? Time to admit he's holding us back - like Stevie G did for Liverpool. I'm sorry, but just can't see where his improvement is going to come from.

Give Chica a chance for the next few games I agree with, but not sure if he can provide a long term impact this season.
 

K2K

Full Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2015
Messages
18,367
Location
"Can Manchester United score? They always score"
The same limitations Rooney had at 10 that people complained about then wont have changed..it will be back to right pass to Valencia again..it seems rather a desperation now to keep Rooney in the team..its almost like try something, anything..eventually maybe something will work..
 

Rory 7

Full Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2002
Messages
7,454
Location
A car park in Saipan
On the bench or as a 9. As a 10, he's completely finished.
thats a huge statement to make about a 30 year old. the lad is going through a bad spell and I honestly think playing him as no 9 isn't helping. whatever happened to getting behind players?
 

khoazany

Full Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2012
Messages
6,525
Location
Singapore
This is the worst possible combination.Even something like Januzaj-Fellani would be better.
 

kouroux

45k posts to finally achieve this tagline
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
96,491
Location
Djibouti (La terre des braves)
thats a huge statement to make about a 30 year old. the lad is going through a bad spell and I honestly think playing him as no 9 isn't helping. whatever happened to getting behind players?
This is me getting behind him, I hope he doesn't play in a position where his technical inability will be even more exposed. A spell on the bench could help him realize he isn't given special treatment anymore and he has to earn his playing time.
 

Rory 7

Full Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2002
Messages
7,454
Location
A car park in Saipan
This is me getting behind him, I hope he doesn't play in a position where his technical inability will be even more exposed. A spell on the bench could help him realize he isn't given special treatment anymore and he has to earn his playing time.
I don't disagree with that. I think he should be dropped and brought back in behind a proper no 9. the thing is who is our no 9? can you honestly say United have a player to rival Costa or Aguero in that position?
 

kouroux

45k posts to finally achieve this tagline
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
96,491
Location
Djibouti (La terre des braves)
I don't disagree with that. I think he should be dropped and brought back in behind a proper no 9. the thing is who is our no 9? can you honestly say United have a player to rival Costa or Aguero in that position?
No, we don't unfortunately. It was a risk going into the season like that but with a week or so left of the window, it looks impossible to rectify. I think, Hernandez given more mins as a 9 cannot be worse than Rooney currently.
 

Nucks

RT History Department
Joined
Sep 2, 2007
Messages
4,462
I guess everyone missed the part where Rooney scored today? He can't control that the refs f'd it up.
 

Striker10

"Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
18,857
I thought Rooney played ok today.

Hernandez missed our best chance. Hes done nothing to deserve a start.
He pushes the defensive line back because he's good on the last man. Hernandez did well in Europe where his pace, led to their lad making a tackle and getting sent off. The chance today - all he had to do was lift it but 9/10 he scores those.
 

Walters_19_MuFc

Full Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
29,708
Location
Birmingham
He pushes the defensive line back because he's good on the last man. Hernandez did well in Europe where his pace, led to their lad making a tackle and getting sent off. The chance today - all he had to do was lift it but 9/10 he scores those.
When Hernandez come on, he dropped off just as much as Rooney did when he was up top. The last man business is probably how he used to play, but certainly not how he played when he come on today.
 

Sam

New Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2007
Messages
31,585
Lets go back to a tactic that Fergie realised wouldn't work at the top level nearly 5 years ago.

Yay!
 

saivet

Full Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2013
Messages
25,446
Worth a try I guess. Not convinced it will do us much good though.
 

gerdm07

Thinks we should have kept Pereira
Joined
Aug 8, 2011
Messages
2,797
Didn't Rooney play as the no. 10 last season? He had a few good games and then our attack suffered for about 10 matches. We were slow, Rooney sprayed the ball to Valencia all the time, and we became predictable. I really don't want us to go down that road again because it will just be false hope.
 

SirBobbysCombover

New Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2014
Messages
1,331
Location
Squirming around on a dusty barber shop floor
I guess everyone missed the part where Rooney scored today? He can't control that the refs f'd it up.
Talk about clutching at straws fella, it was borderline, previous 2 games he was offside regularly.

I so want Rooney to regain that killer instinct, sadly it was dwindling past 2 seasons, with thisseason looking like it has long sailed off into the sunset. Sadly for Wayne, he can't fix this short term like his Barnet.
 

Chicharo

Full Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2010
Messages
4,129
Location
Near Vida's hometown
Not long ago, this was actually the case, and we went to the CL final and won 19th title with Chicharito as the main striker and Rooney being behind him.
The trouble is that was 4-4-2, LVG doesn't want that formation.
Only way that could work now is if Rooney plays wide or behind him in the line of three.

I would like to see something like this:

Mata.........Rooney........Memphis
......New striker (Chicharito)....
 

J-Stander

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Sep 30, 2013
Messages
5,748
New striker with Rooney on the bench. Neither Hernandez or Rooney are currently good enough to lead the line for us.
 

Mainoldo

New Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2004
Messages
22,965
Rooney hasn't got a creative bone in his body to play this number #10 role. After the amnesia wears off for most of you.. you will realise this and call for him to go back up top.

Look forward to all these cross field balls to Darmain.
 

finneh

Full Member
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
7,318
Let's put our least technically gifted attacking player in the position that requires the highest level of technical ability. That'll work out fantastically.

If Rooney has to play it should be wide right where his work ethic will help out his full back, but he poor touch/short passing isn't as much of an issue.
 

Rednotdead

New Member
Joined
Jan 6, 2014
Messages
4,875
Location
Tewkesbury
Rooney doesn't have the guile to be a no.10 and Hernandez isn't good enough to be a lone striker for Manchester United.