No question mark needed at the end of that sentence.
Valdes not invited to UNICEF Charity Dinner | Calm down it's for first team squad and coaches
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So you're saying he "decided" to never play for the first team again when he did something that he's not allowed to talk about in the press but obviously isn't bad enough to rescind his contract?
Pathetic!
This is feck all other than LvGs huge ego A-fecking-GAIN!! 3 times 3 clubs 3 countries … Koinkidink?
If "whatever happened" was unprofessional then it's simple! The club would have long ago rescinded Valdes' contract and get rid of him.
End of!
Fair enough.
Poor guy has been hung out to dry. I know he's still on good money but money doesn't bring happiness and being treated that way is just plain wrong.
He was told he could leave but no-one offered the money he wanted so he rather sit and earn a wage doing nothing instead.
He chose to stay. We didn't force him.
Not sure why everyone think it's our or LVG's fault he is "suffering".
As for those that say why didn't we just cancel his contract, I am sure it would've costed us the same amount of money (since he rather stay than take a pay cut) and we run the risk of him joining a rival. How would that make any sense for us to cancel his contract?
He chose to stay. We didn't force him.
Not sure why everyone think it's our or LVG's fault he is "suffering".
As for those that say why didn't we just cancel his contract, I am sure it would've costed us the same amount of money (since he rather stay than take a pay cut) and we run the risk of him joining a rival. How would that make any sense for us to cancel his contract?
As we'd say around these parts, ara stop it wouldya.
Oh FFS...
*We've witnessed Alex Ferguson being booed over his treatment of gun-for-hire Carlos 'Man City' Tevez...
*We've seen the club slaughtered for 'brazenly ruining the career of a young Spaniard!' (Herrera, when the first deal fell through)...
*...and now Dickensian orphan Victor Valdes is left outside in the snow, his rosey-cheeked face peering through frosty windows at the toffs and favourite courtiers banqueting on callousness and nepotism; it would take a heart of stone not to laugh...
In other words: 99 times out of 100, the club - and its managers - are in the right, and players who haven't made the grade or have acted unprofessionally or are simply unwanted tend to play the victim while knowing that unthinking fans will support them or at least clamber aboard the bandwagon of personal grudges and biases. Generally, the club and its managers have United's best interests at heart; can we truly claim the same for the likes of Valdes and Tevez?
*We've witnessed Alex Ferguson being booed over his treatment of gun-for-hire Carlos 'Man City' Tevez...
*We've seen the club slaughtered for 'brazenly ruining the career of a young Spaniard!' (Herrera, when the first deal fell through)...
*...and now Dickensian orphan Victor Valdes is left outside in the snow, his rosey-cheeked face peering through frosty windows at the toffs and favourite courtiers banqueting on callousness and nepotism; it would take a heart of stone not to laugh...
In other words: 99 times out of 100, the club - and its managers - are in the right, and players who haven't made the grade or have acted unprofessionally or are simply unwanted tend to play the victim while knowing that unthinking fans will support them or at least clamber aboard the bandwagon of personal grudges and biases. Generally, the club and its managers have United's best interests at heart; can we truly claim the same for the likes of Valdes and Tevez?
What?
That's an improvement.
One final thing to add to this - If Man Utd is really such an awful place for Valdes to be, why didn't he move to Besiktas?
Ah yes, because something like they tried to alter the contract just before he signed it or something something.... "said a source close to Valdes".
Funny that, isn't it? A source close to Valdes, making him out to be the victim yet again.
Have no idea what the feck you are going on about you idiot!
Nice one.
It's a shame Valdés isn't still at Barca, I feel himself and this fella would get on great. They could share Social Media Victim Tactics
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/06/luis-suarez-liverpool-arsenal-transfer
His wife just seems pissed she didnt get a chance to show off her 10,000 dollar dress. She hasn't complained once about her husband not getting games
I still seriously have no idea wtf you are going on about?
If you disagree with me fair enough, say so!
But please stop making statements like your's is the only opinion that fecking counts and also try to make some sense, then perhaps we can have some dialogue other than your Irish gruntings!
I think I have said many, many times. Nice casual racism!
No, you said "As we'd say around these parts, ara stop it wouldya."
You are either confusing me with someone else or just fishing either way you can feck off as you have no intention of doing anything other than winding people up … you are on ignore!
Sound. I think you're talking nonsense and are overreacting massively to a total non-story. How's about that?
Would have been better put that way in the first place rather than whatever you said … and I think I've laid out my case why I don't think it's an over-reaction as well. Any fans of Bayern that hang out here might back me up that LvG is a fecking genius when it comes to causing problems where they shouldn't exist!
that maybe but this issue is caused by one person only. Valdes
Valdes is no victim. Why didn't he leave and go to Besiktas when he could have, if he's so persecuted here? You never answered that.
Let's not forget what LVG and the club did for him, by the way
http://talksport.com/football/valdes-could-stay-man-united-hints-van-gaal-141024120720
http://talksport.com/football/valdes-could-stay-man-united-hints-van-gaal-141024120720
http://talksport.com/football/liverpool-transfer-blow-injured-valdes-train-man-united-141023120484
Luke Shaw looks so happy
Its like when you have a player on FM that you can't shift. You move them to the reserves, then to the U18's, you keep fining them, you tell the press they're not needed...
But the cnut keeps sitting on his nice fat contract, refusing to leave.
But the cnut keeps sitting on his nice fat contract, refusing to leave.
I've heard from a few people involved in the club that unsurprisingly the problem with Valdes wasn't just about his refusal to play for the u21s. He also had multiple rows with members of staff and with Hoek in particular and refused to do things he was asked to do in training because he thought he knew better but the final straw was when he began undermining Hoek with the other players. He was toxic to have around the squad so was removed from the first team picture but the club still have to fulfill their contractual obligations such as providing him with training. The sooner he's out of the club the better.
Anyone who thought the problem was just refusing to play for the u21s is deluded.
If this is the case then we should have simply terminated his contract. If he's a toxic influence then it's naive to assume he isn't spending time with the other Spanish players during their off time anyway.
The club should have investigated his conduct to see if there was enough to warrant firing him without paying the full severance but even if there wasn't, we should have taken the hit. Surely with his injuries we didn't give him a contract with a massive termination clause anyway?
Bizarre. Such random shit happens at United.
You know nothing and you should stop spreading your stupid agenda against LvG whenever you can. These are shit posts that contribute nothing to the topic.
What a great thread
Yeah but...CHARITY!!!
How many days til the end of year awards? If we could get a few more latercomer outraged wrong-end-of-stickers, this could be in the mix for worst thread of the year.
feck off side-kick Simon.
It's starting to get a bit farcical. Regardless of the details of what really happened, I doubt this is increasing our appeal with potential future signings (although money obviously is the key motivator for signing with us.)
If that's true, then feck Valdes. But I wonder why the club can't come out and say that.
Club doesn't really comment on individual players and last time the press asked van Gaal about Valdes was in preseason when we were trying to get him off the books. If the rows etc were true, then van Gaal saying about the rows would just make it harder to get rid of him as other clubs wouldn't touch him, which in the end happened thanks to the Besiktas move collapse.
Rachel Riley wasn't there. That's a bigger problem.
Yeah, you're probably right. Honestly just wish the whole thing would go away, despite it being morbidly amusing.