That's below the belt.
Whenever van Gaal goes, Giggs should go too...
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agree. If it is not Pep in the summer, then appoint Maurinho.
Not sure why his personal life is relevant to the current situation tbh
I'm really not serious. Republicans are cool.
He is an assistant under a manager who has a stringent philosophy and takes all the training drills. As I understand, his job is to make presentations for the players and other stupid shit. Of course he is not responsible for this. This is all on the manager; the bucks always stops with the man in-charge.
He needs to go somewhere else and prove himself.
Ah, so he's our new scapegoat then? Alright.
If we can get Pep at the end of the season then Giggs is the only option. If ya think LVG plays shit football, Mourinho is just as bad.
Giggs is one of the few constants between the last two management reigns here, if he is not responsible for anything then I have serious reservations of his ability to become the main man without cutting his teeth first. Giggs is way too comfortable here.
Exactly, he's implicated or useless. Of course there's there's a third option that LvG completely disregarded him but he should have walked if that was the case.
He needs to go get experience anyway, we all wish him well and no one wants him to fail.
I agree, but I don't think Pep is available. I would accept Giggs as interim if Pep has a contract signed to take over in the summer.
It's his job to scout the opposition and form specialised tactic for each team. I'd say he's not doing a very good job of that right now.
SAF.
This thread is an absolute joke.
By no means should Giggs be our manager. He probably should go, purely for his own development. But this abuse in this thread disgusts me.
Maybe he simply thought that what was happening wasn't working, so he stood up to try to provide a presence? I know right before he did I was thinking to myself that LVG needed to get up there, but of course he wouldn't so hopefully Giggs would. And he did.
By no means should Giggs be our manager. He probably should go, purely for his own development. But this abuse in this thread disgusts me.
Maybe he simply thought that what was happening wasn't working, so he stood up to try to provide a presence? I know right before he did I was thinking to myself that LVG needed to get up there, but of course he wouldn't so hopefully Giggs would. And he did.
Hate for Giggs as a manager then.
We have no idea if he has any part in any van Gaal's decision.
He's been involved but with somebody like LVG in charge he's not the one calling the shots. I say give Giggs the chance as interim and then hopefully get Pep for next season.
If we cant get Pep then there is Carlo also. Maureen is as bad as LVG.
No, but he's now been part of two management teams that have both failed spectacularly.
And if he's being groomed to be our next manager, then surely he's playing a big part in those management structures? And if he's not, then why the feck is he being lined up as our future manager?
I wonder how many calling for Giggs to go would be happy being sacked from their job if their manager were underperforming?
It's not his job. It's the other guys, whose name I don't know.
Can't believe ppl actually want him to be our manager.
You just had to watch that documentary to realise Giggs is a man of few words and no great intelligence apart from how he played. There is a big difference. dealing with players is a different ball game and I'm sorry..but I just don't think he has the talent for that. Scholes doesn't want to manage for those reasons. Brilliant player...but can't translate it to great manager.
Anyone calling Giggs a rat is a fecking Muppet. He is a legend of the club, 'the legend' in my eyes.
While its fine for people to feel he needs to go elsewhere to gather experience, an opinion I'd agree with, being derespectful to the man is completely classless.
While its fine for people to feel he needs to go elsewhere to gather experience, an opinion I'd agree with, being derespectful to the man is completely classless.
Did he?
Well, if he gets the job he better watch his back. What goes around comes around etc etc
I hate this fecker no end
Fcuking hell this thread is hilarious... RAWK ain't got nothing on redcafe. Embarrassing stuff...
It's bollocks we've forced him on Van Gaal as an assistant. Not that Giggs is the problem but a new manager should be able to pick their staff.
Giggs was in discussion with manager and soon after found himself by the pitch. Common sense tells us it was by instructions from LVG.
He's not though, he's won 3 titles in the Premier League and twice as many CLs.
Mourinho is my third choice after Pep and Ancelotti, but I'm fairly sure the latter two are now spoken for. If they are spoken for, Mourinho is the only valid choice as far as I see it.
No, he's not at fault that LVG chose to play this boring style of football. And the whole stabbing in the back thing is ridiculous.
In the match thread you got the feeling some people based their negative thinking that Giggs stood in the technical area to distance himself from LVG due to a black side to his nature.
I can. Fans are sentimental creatures. I can think of only one instance where such a move worked and that was Dalglish at Liverpool during his first spell there. Souness couldn't repeat the trick.
Giggs is not the spacegoat but some of the blame definitely belongs to him as it does LVG, the players, and the board as well. Giggs isn't experienced enough to manage this club yet and has been a part of two failed managerial teams (if LVG ends up a failure, still hoping he can turn things around despite it not looking good right now). He needs to go be a success elsewhere before he gets to step up to the big stage here, we must hire managers based on merit, not romance. Won't comment on him being on the touch line as he could have been directed by LVG to do so.
Feel so angry with the Cnut.
His stupid little note. I've seen dead people have more life then Wayne Rooney (captain of Ingerland) Joke of a manager, joke of a captain. Feck off
His stupid little note. I've seen dead people have more life then Wayne Rooney (captain of Ingerland) Joke of a manager, joke of a captain. Feck off
Did he?
Well, if he gets the job he better watch his back. What goes around comes around etc etc
Yeah, he told the story about how Giggs came up with the idea of buying matching cars or Land Rovers or something, and going into The Cliff with them....The next morning, Sharpe turns up in the new vehicle and Giggs turns up in the car the club gave him. Fergie lost the rag with Sharpie and said he should be more like Giggs, as Giggs stood there like Martin Prince from The Simpsons
I hate this fecker no end
Me too, I don't know why but he's a fecking cnut.
This isn't true though, is it?
Moyes was advised to keep Meulensteen and Phelan on board, but instead opted to bring in Steve Round and Phil Neville. Giggs was still playing during Moyes' season in charge. He would have had very little, if anything, to do with Moyes' decision making during his time at United.
As for the time under LvG, an assistant manager can only offer advice to the manager. If the manager chooses to ignore that advice then there's nothing the assistant can do. We have absolutely no way of knowing what advice, if any, Giggs offers van Gaal, but all this talk of him being just as culpable as van Gaal for how United play is simply nonsense.
I agree that the next manager should be able to choose their own backroom team, and as a result Giggs may well find himself out of a job, but to say he's somehow stabbing van Gaal in the back, or to suggest that it's his fault we've been playing so poorly is grossly unfair.
It does reveal certain aspects of his character. Again, I'm not saying he is trying to undermine LVG, and people are undoubtedly exaggerating, but it's not something that would be out of the question.