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He either signed, or promoted, half of those bloody players!
If the squad is a mess then he takes sole responsibility for it. He's had carte blance to build whatever squad he wants.
Not easy when those pussys cant stay fit. Or allways playing with 10 or 9 players when Felli and Rooney are used. We can thank Moyes for that..
Btw I hope he and Giggs will be gone soon.
He was hanging on by the skin of his teeth, surviving on results. Once the results went the other way he was exposed as the philosopher with no clothes. He did have a brief period last season where we went on a run of playing great football and getting results, we dont know if this was down to the manager or if there was a player revolt. He reminds me a bit of Trapatoni with Ireland, a very decorated coach from the past who failed to keep up with the times. Its often said, and never denied that the time Ireland played so well against France (the Terry Henry incident) was down to the players saying "f*ck the coach, we are going for it regardless".
Its a sad end for LVG, and he does seem like a good man. Sometimes I feel sorry for him, then other times I remember he is being paid millions and has spent millions.
I just can't imagine him being on the bench against Chelsea after all the speculation, surely he will go tomorrow? getting nervous to be honest.
Maybe the people that leak certain information are not in the loop this time. If the Glazers have any sense whatsoever they should be firing everybody that brought LVG to the club and supported him through his tenure here. Its been clear for a very long time that he was not suitable.
He should really resign imo. Say farewell to a great career and retire 18 months early.
Some would say that Maureen will have us scrapping with Chel$ki to see which big club could be in a relegation battle.
That's 27% plus the others
Crazy idea that he'd transition (demoted of course) into head of youth development ? We actually need someone there. And Louis' methods, discipline and attention to detail may actually benefit youth players more as there isn't the pressure of getting results. A very much "process" driven thing.
Would salvage pride and would actually be of benefit there. Is this mad?
Would salvage pride and would actually be of benefit there. Is this mad?
He'd promote all the left footers and get rid of all the talented players.
His record has been poor with the youth - the likes of Blackett found themselves promoted. Our 3 most talented youngsters have been woefully mismanaged - Januzaj is out on loan to a team who he won't start for when he's good enough to play for us, Wilson got fecked around the bench without any playing time for 18 months and Perreira's also not getting much.
Why would a top world class manager want to be demoted and humiliated like that???
Not even Moyes or Hughes would accept such a humiliation!...
Completely.
Fair enough. I don't see it as embarrasing at all. He began his career by developing some oustanding footballers.
But fair enough..
Don't see what either of those would offer to an ambitious youth academy.
I'd suggest that his "youth record" at United doesn't really count. He's come into a situation where he's needed to do major surgery on a team expected to get results. He did go for that mad 5 at the back scenario for a while and it meant using the defenders available to him. He's also given more games to youths than I would expect another manager to do (i.e. Jose), though against Wolfsburg that was a bit mad.
But fair enough..
Woke up at 7.00 am here swearlting, checked if he was gone. HE ISNT !!
How can you blame players for getting injured? If they refuse to play with a minor injury, then you can call them a pussy or whatever. Also, how can you hold Moyes responsible for LvG playing Fellaini and Rooney? You do know that LvG could simply refuse to play them, or get rid of them like he did with a lot of players signed under Fergie? Or that he did not have to make Rooney the captain and make him untouchable?
Got in expecting some news. Twitter is so quiet too, so weird. I would say there's something up, but with us, you never know.
Get rid pronto, should have happened already, do it respectively, let him resign, but not only is the team sliding down the table, the club is being damaged by this, from every conceivable angle he is a complete failure, I don't enjoy watching us play, even when we are winning a match, you can analyse the feck out of why that is the case in various threads, but that is the case, this is horrible and it needs to end. We were stable enough through the horrible football not conceding goals, but even then, De Gea still saved us on several occasions to keep clean sheets, now we are conceding goals for fun and no more likely to score. As a club we cannot be seen to condone what is going on.
Yet there is the argument he is a better mgr than Moyes. I'm afraid sticking with Moyes would have had us in a better position right now. What a bad, bad choice this turned out to be.
What a load of crap. LVG may play some dire football but there is set idea and attempted execution of it.
Moyes tactics could simply be narrowed down to, pass it out wide and cross it in....
Moyes was shit.
Very mature. Even so, Moyes is still alive so your tense is off.
You said that last game.
forgot that I did. I was wrong again too!I place a lot of blame with Woodward and the board now. He should have been gone after Norwich.
Not even Moyes managed to do that. Combine that with having that worst Premier league start ever last year, and LvG has broken a few records himself.
With Schneiderlin on the bench. He also had to get rid of a player he broke the transfer record for. Check how much the managers at Leicester, Spurs and Palace have spent.
forget moyes, the record goes back past the 70s and 80s which was supposed to be the "dark era" (wasn't even born back then so I don't know the full details) with brief relegation and then liverpool dominating.
Just woke up. Why is he not gone yet?
The easy thing to do now would be to sack Van Gaal, and employ Mourinho. Not convinced that's what we should be doing when there is a chance of getting Pep in.
I hope we at least try to sort Van Gaal out, get an interim manager, and get Pep to sign papers to take over at the end of the season.
I hope we at least try to sort Van Gaal out, get an interim manager, and get Pep to sign papers to take over at the end of the season.
Let's keep it real... Moyes was complete horse shit from every angle. LVG is not a good fit for this club but he has done a few good things. I wish him the best, but he needs to get the feck out and give Jose a chance (assuming pep is out of the picture).
If they play up to their standards and succeed, how do they get rid of LvG if they do not like him?
It's time the Glazers sell all their stakes and fire themselves at Man Utd then. They were the ones who made the final decisions and gave him 250 millions
Our board moves slower than our attack.
This!
I think he'll be gone tomorrow, to let him continue would be madness. Even our shitty board can see that.
That's why they don't see the problem.
"This 'Rooney' youngster seems to be a bit quick, excellent...... will be a fine player one day."
I'm afraid that would be impossible...right?
I'm sorry but every time I've heard Sir Bobby speak and if what we read is true, he's stuck in some romantic version of the club while the rest of our rivals are pragmatically moving on.
We are way too 'nice' and need to be more ruthless - it's 2015!
Been through that. I posted in another thread that i will take winning trophies every time ahead of style, and someone called be a bandwagon fan. It was not a pleasant time with Liverpool winning everything in sight. Yea, it would be great winning stuff by playing brilliant football, but winning trophies should come first, but we are getting neither with LvG in charge.
If im referring to Moyes tenure at Manchester United (which I am) than it is past tense...
Similarly, I couldn't give a fecking about eloquence when discussing his management of Manchester United. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, guess what, it's shit. Im not going to diddle daddle around pretending Moyes was anything but toxic for the progression of Manchester United. He woefully mismanaged the summer transfer which the club had spent alot of time and effort in preparing for him. Instead he signed an over the hill striker to a massive 5 year contract and signed one of the most one dimensional (however sometimes useful) players in the premier league. He then proceeded to sign a player that was ill-matched for the football he wanted to play and created further issues trying to select 3 players for the one position.
So in other words David Moyes was fecking shit. He didn't have a clue.
I agree. Rooney and Mata destroyed our attacking creativity and frustrated the crap out of talented strikers. Fellaini should have stayed at Everton.
The problem with LVG was that when he brought in Di Maria and Falcao he should have gotten rid of Rooney and Mata. He could have then had the money to buy a gifted attacking midfielder and also if I were him I would have given Nani a final chance.
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