In All of the English League we have the Lowest Home goals in England | Misleading OP/title

[roykeane19]

We have scored 13 goals at Old Trafford from August till December, and are ranked 92 in all of the English leagues,can someone sack this fraud straight away, we are the first club that naively gave him a blank check and let him throw away 250mill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...officially-boring-watch-English-football.html

 

[Snow]

We have scored 13 goals at Old Trafford from August till December, and are ranked 92 in all of the English leagues,can someone sack this fraud straight away, we are the first club that naively gave him a blank check and let him throw away 250mill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...officially-boring-watch-English-football.html

Yaaawn.

 

[predator]

Can't help but laugh to be honest.

 

[Someone]

It's a process.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

Can't help but laugh to be honest.

My thoughts too

 

[Garethw]

That's a jaw dropping statistic. Absolutely astonishing. Yet the managers job is seemingly as sound as a pound.

 

[Winrar]

I wonder if anybody on the board knows this? that's an utterly inexcusable and damning statistic.

 

[Nighteyes]

We have scored 13 goals at Old Trafford from August till December, and are ranked 92 in all of the English leagues,can someone sack this fraud straight away, we are the first club that naively gave him a blank check and let him throw away 250mill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...officially-boring-watch-English-football.html

fecking hell

 

[JPRouve]

I don't think that we are last, we are 82nd, the 92nd position is the combination of goals scored at Old Trafford by both teams. Also we have scored 10 goals not 13.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Could be worse, could be Villa with 6, we've struck 4 more than them.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Spoilt fans, LvG needs time. Better than Moyes.

 

[sunama]

Could be worse, could be Villa with 6, we've struck 4 more than them.

Well, as long as we are beating bottom-of-the-table-Villa, that's what counts.

 

[Raw]

That's so bad it's funny.

 

[spwd]

Christ almighty that's beyond ridiculous, and this bit from the oh so bad squad Moyes inherited.


In comparison, during Sir Alex Ferguson’s final title-winning season in charge (2012-13), it took United just four games to reach 13 league goals at home.

 

[Fergus' son]

Rooney should be ashamed.

 

[KingMinger22]

Rooney should be ashamed.

He needs to be shifted on somehow.

Completely done at this level.

 

[Sigma]

wow

 

[rcoobc]

Not to deliberately strike an opposite pose to the bandwagon, but we have only played 9 home games this season. Championship, League One and League Two teams have mostly played 12.

So the other leagues have played 33% more games than us at home. Us being bottom of those tables isn't exactly okay, we all know we've been shit.

But wait, we've scored the same amount of home goals as Stoke and Watford. Aren't Stoke and Watford being lauded for their play this season?

Basically, one Premier League team will be bottom of this table every year. Today its us

 

[Sigma]

Not to deliberately strike an opposite pose to the bandwagon, but we have only played 9 home games this season. Championship, League One and League Two teams have mostly played 12.

So the other leagues have played 33% more games than us at home. Us being bottom of those tables isn't exactly okay, we all know we've been shit.

But wait, we've scored the same amount of home goals as Stoke and Watford. Aren't Stoke and Watford being lauded for their play this season?

Basically, one Premier League team will be bottom of this table every year. Today its us

By the same token if you add 33% of our total (13) you get 17.29 which still makes us last

 

[Tyrion]

I don't hate LVG but when he gets sacked, he can't complain. Our team isn't great but they're better than this.

By the same token if you add 33% of our total (13) you get 17.29 which still makes us last

Ffs, it's not even closed.

 

[Woodzy]

But we had a chance to score and we didn't take it...

 

[rcoobc]

By the same token if you add 33% of our total (13) you get 17.29 which still makes us last

True, but it's not something you want to be near the top of the table for anyway. Judging from that table, we've only conceded 3 home goals this season in the Prem.... the same amount as Chelsea after 9 games in their record-breaking season.

It's the goals scored column where we have been crap

 

[ivaldo]

Except we aren't, you can't just make stats up.

 

[spwd]

Except we aren't, you can't just make stats up.

Yet you show no proof we aren't , even if we're not bottom I'm betting were not far from it which is disgusting either way.

 

[Sigma]

True, but it's not something you want to be near the top of the table for anyway. Judging from that table, we've only conceded 3 home goals this season in the Prem.... the same amount as Chelsea after 9 games in their record-breaking season.

It's the goals scored column where we have been crap

Yeah I know. we're still 82nd in the goals scored

 

[ivaldo]

Yet you show no proof we aren't , even if we're not bottom I'm betting were not far from it which is disgusting either way.

If you looked at the link you'd know we aren't, if you read the previous posts you'd know we aren't, what more proof do you need?

 

[Danny_]

Spoilt fans, LvG needs time. Better than Moyes.

This. Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Where are we on home goals conceded? must be low we had 0 until a couple weeks ago

 

[Welsh Wonder]

I think we've also got the lowest home goals scored in Spain too with 0.

 

[Damien]

Not to deliberately strike an opposite pose to the bandwagon, but we have only played 9 home games this season. Championship, League One and League Two teams have mostly played 12.

So the other leagues have played 33% more games than us at home. Us being bottom of those tables isn't exactly okay, we all know we've been shit.

But wait, we've scored the same amount of home goals as Stoke and Watford. Aren't Stoke and Watford being lauded for their play this season?

Basically, one Premier League team will be bottom of this table every year. Today its us

Here's one for the number of goals scored by the home side at the first 9 home games played by every team so it is constant:

01. Manchester City (Premier League) - 25
02. Gillingham (League One) - 23
03. Coventry City (League One) - 22
04. Peterborough United (League One) - 20
05. Everton (Premier League) - 19
=. Sheffield United (League One) - 19
07. Accrington Stanley (League Two) - 18
=. Carlisle United (League Two) - 18
09. Burnley (Championship) - 17
=. Fleetwood Town (League One) - 17
=. Leyton Orient (League Two) - 17
=. Queens Park Rangers (Championship) - 17
13. Bury (League One) - 16
=. Fulham (Championship) - 16
=. Hull City (Championship) - 16
=. Leicester City (Premier League) - 16
=. Middlesbrough (Championship) - 16
=. Morecambe (League Two) - 16
=. Port Vale (League One) - 16
20. Arsenal (Premier League) - 15
=. Colchester United (League One) - 15
=. Derby County (Championship) - 15
=. Exeter City (League Two) - 15
=. Plymouth Argyle (League Two) - 15
=. Sheffield Wednesday (Championship) - 15
=. Tottenham Hotspur (Premier League) - 15
=. Wigan Athletic (League One) - 15
28. Barnet (League Two) - 14
=. Burton Albion (League One) - 14
=. Chesterfield (League One) - 14
=. Mansfield Town (League Two) - 14
=. Newcastle United (Premier League) - 14
=. Northampton Town (League Two) - 14
=. Notts County (League Two) - 14
=. West Ham United (Premier League) - 14
36. AFC Wimbledon (League Two) - 13
=. Chelsea (Premier League) - 13
=. Ipswich Town (Championship) - 13
=. Millwall (League One) - 13
=. Reading (Championship) - 13
=. Southampton (Premier League) - 13
=. Swindon Town (League One) - 13
=. Walsall (League One) - 13
=. Wycombe Wanderers (League Two) - 13
=. Yeovil Town (League Two) - 13
46. Brighton and Hove Albion (Championship) - 12
=. Cambridge United (League Two) - 12
=. Cardiff City (Championship) - 12
=. Crystal Palace (Premier League) - 12
=. Oxford United (League Two) - 12
=. Rochdale (League One) - 12
=. Rotherham United (Championship) - 12
=. York City (League Two) - 12
54. Bradford City (League One) - 11
=. Brentford (Championship) - 11
=. Bristol City (Championship) - 11
=. Charlton Athletic (Championship) - 11
=. Hartlepool United (League Two) - 11
=. Liverpool (Premier League) - 11
=. Luton Town (League Two) - 11
=. Norwich City (Premier League) - 11
=. Portsmouth (League Two) - 11
=. Shrewsbury Town (League One) - 11
=. West Bromwich Albion (Premier League) - 11
65. Barnsley (League One) - 10
=. Blackburn Rovers (Championship) - 10
=. Bournemouth (Premier League) - 10
=. Doncaster Rovers (League One) - 10
=. Huddersfield Town (Championship) - 10
=. Manchester United (Premier League) - 10
=. Nottingham Forest (Championship) - 10
=. Southend United (League One) - 10
=. Stoke City (Premier League) - 10
74. Birmingham City (Championship) - 9
=. Crawley Town (League Two) - 9
=. Crewe Alexandra (League One) - 9
=. Oldham Athletic (League One) - 9
=. Stevenage (League Two) - 9
=. Sunderland (Premier League) - 9
=. Watford (Premier League) - 9
=. Wolverhampton Wanderers (Championship) - 9
82. Blackpool (League One) - 8
=. Bristol Rovers (League Two) - 8
=. Milton Keynes Dons (Championship) - 8
=. Newport County (League Two) - 8
=. Scunthorpe United (League One) - 8
=. Swansea City (Premier League) - 8
88. Bolton Wanderers (Championship) - 7
=. Dagenham and Redbridge (League Two) - 7
90. Aston Villa (Premier League) - 6
=. Preston North End (Championship) - 6
92. Leeds United (Championship) - 5

Number of goals conceded by the home side at the first 9 home games:

01. Middlesbrough (Championship) - 2
02. Manchester United (Premier League) - 3
=. Wigan Athletic (League One) - 3
04. Brighton and Hove Albion (Championship) - 5
=. Burton Albion (League One) - 5
=. Hull City (Championship) - 5
=. Scunthorpe United (League One) - 5
08. Arsenal (Premier League) - 6
=. Cardiff Championship (Championship) - 6
=. Derby County (Championship) - 6
=. Oxford United (League Two) - 6
=. Reading (Championship) - 6
=. Watford (Premier League) - 6
14. Blackburn Rovers (Championship) - 7
=. Bolton Wanderers (Championship) - 7
=. Portsmouth (League Two) - 7
=. Tottenham Hotspur (Premier League) - 7
18. Barnet (League Two) - 8
=. Doncaster Rovers (League One) - 8
=. Fleetwood Town (League One) - 8
=. Gillingham (League One) - 8
=. Mansfield Town (League Two) - 8
=. Plymouth Argyle (League Two) - 8
=. Preston North End (Championship) - 8
25. Bradford City (League One) - 9
=. Burnley (Championship) - 9
=. Crystal Palace (Premier League) - 9
=. Ipswich Town (Championship) - 9
=. Leyton Orient (League Two) - 9
=. Luton Town (League Two) - 9
=. Northampton Town (League Two) - 9
=. Nottingham Forest (Championship) - 9
=. Sheffield Wednesday (Championship) - 9
=. Southend United (League One) - 9
=. Stoke City (Premier League) - 9
=. Walsall (League One) - 9
37. Barnsley (League One) - 10
=. Coventry City (League One) - 10
=. Crawley Town (League Two) - 10
=. Exeter City (League Two) - 10
=. Norwich City (Premier League) - 10
=. Port Vale (League One) - 10
=. Rochdale (League One) - 10
=. Shrewsbury Town (League One) - 10
=. Sunderland (Premier League) - 10
=. Wolverhampton Wanderers (Championship) - 10
47. Birmingham City (Championship) - 11
=. Leeds United (Championship) - 11
=. Liverpool (Premier League) - 11
=. Manchester City (Premier League) - 11
=. Milton Keynes Dons (Championship) - 11
=. Notts County (League Two) - 11
=. Queens Park Rangers (Championship) - 11
54. Blackpool (League One) - 12
=. Bristol Rovers (League Two) - 12
=. Chelsea (Premier League) - 12
=. Huddersfield Town (Championship) - 12
=. Swansea City (Premier League) - 12
=. West Ham United (Premier League) - 12
=. Wycombe Wanderers (League Two) - 12
61. AFC Wimbledon (League Two) - 13
=. Aston Villa (Premier League) - 13
=. Bournemouth (Premier League) - 13
=. Bury (League One) - 13
=. Leicester City (Premier League) - 13
=. Millwall (League One) - 13
=. Newcastle United (Premier League) - 13
=. Sheffield United (League One) - 13
=. Southampton (Premier League) - 13
70. Brentford (Championship) - 14
=. Colchester United (League One) - 14
=. Hartlepool United (League Two) - 14
=. Stevenage (League Two) - 14
74. Accrington Stanley (League Two) - 15
=. Dagenham and Redbridge (League Two) - 15
=. Everton (Premier League) - 15
=. Swindon Town (League One) - 15
78. Bristol City (Championship) - 16
=. Cambridge United (League Two) - 16
=. Carlisle United (League Two) - 16
=. Charlton Athletic (Championship) - 16
=. Fulham (Championship) - 16
=. Peterborough United (League One) - 16
=. West Bromwich Albion (Premier League) - 16
85. Chesterfield (League One) - 17
=. Newport County (League Two) - 17
=. Oldham Athletic (League One) - 17
=. York City (League Two) - 17
89. Rotherham United (Championship) - 18
=. Yeovil Town (League Two) - 18
91. Crewe Alexandra (League One) - 19
=. Morecambe (League Two) - 19

Number of points attained by the home side at the first 9 home games (max of 27 points):

01. Brighton and Hove Albion (Championship) - 23
=. Coventry City (League One) - 23
=. Gillingham (League One) - 23
04. Middlesbrough (Championship) - 22
05. Manchester City (Premier League) - 21
=. Wigan Athletic (League One) - 21
07. Arsenal (Premier League) - 20
=. Burnley (Championship) - 20
=. Burton Albion (League One) - 20
=. Hull City (Championship) - 20
11. Northampton Town (League Two) - 19
=. Plymouth Argyle (League Two) - 19
13. Cardiff City (Championship) - 18
=. Derby County (Championship) - 18
=. Leicester City (Premier League) - 18
=. Oxford United (League Two) - 18
=. Port Vale (League One) - 18
=. Sheffield Wednesday (Championship) - 18
19. Barnet (League Two) - 17
=. Leyton Orient (League Two) - 17
21. Bury (League One) - 16
=. Exeter City (League Two) - 16
=. Manchester United (Premier League) - 16
=. Notts County (League Two) - 16
=. Queens Park Rangers (Championship) - 16
=. Reading (Championship) - 16
=. Scunthorpe United (League One) - 16
=. Sheffield United (League One) - 16
=. Southend United (League One) - 16
=. Tottenham Hotspur (Premier League) - 16
31. Accrington Stanley (League Two) - 15
=. Bradford City (League One) - 15
=. Carlisle United (League Two) - 15
=. Liverpool (Premier League) - 15
=. Walsall (League One) - 15
36. AFC Wimbledon (League Two) - 14
=. Crawley Town (League Two) - 14
=. Ipswich Town (Championship) - 14
=. Peterborough United (League One) - 14
=. Rochdale (League One) - 14
=. Watford (Premier League) - 14
42. Brentford (Championship) - 13
=. Chelsea (Premier League) - 13
=. Colchester United (League One) - 13
=. Crystal Palace (Premier League) - 13
=. Doncaster Rovers (League One) - 13
=. Mansfield Town (League Two) - 13
=. Millwall (League One) - 13
=. Stoke City (Premier League) - 13
=. West Ham United (Premier League) - 13
51. Everton (Premier League) - 12
=. Fleetwood Town (League One) - 12
=. Fulham (Championship) - 12
=. Luton Town (League Two) - 12
=. Norwich City (Premier League) - 12
=. Nottingham Forest (Championship) - 12
=. Portsmouth (League Two) - 12
=. Wycombe Wanderers (League Two) - 12
59. Birmingham City (Championship) - 11
=. Blackburn Rovers (Championship) - 11
=. Blackpool (League One) - 11
=. Charlton Athletic (Championship) - 11
=. Hartlepool United (League Two) - 11
=. Southampton (Premier League) - 11
=. Stevenage (League Two) - 11
66. Barnsley (League One) - 10
=. Bolton Wanderers (Championship) - 10
=. Bournemouth (Premier League) - 10
=. Cambridge United (League Two) - 10
=. Milton Keynes Dons (Championship) - 10
=. Newcastle United (Premier League) - 10
=. Swansea City (Premier League) - 10
=. Wolverhampton Wanderers (Championship) - 10
74. Bristol City (Championship) - 9
=. Huddersfield Town (Championship) - 9
=. Morecambe (League Two) - 9
=. Shrewsbury Town (League One) - 9
78. Chesterfield (League One) - 8
=. Preston North End (Championship) - 8
=. Rotherham United (Championship) - 8
=. Sunderland (Premier League) - 8
=. Swindon Town (League One) - 8
=. West Bromwich Albion (Premier League) - 8
84. Bristol Rovers (League Two) - 7
85. Leeds United (Championship) - 6
=. Oldham Athletic (League One) - 6
=. Yeovil Town (League Two) - 6
=. York City (League Two) - 6
89. Crewe Alexandra (League One) - 5
90. Newport County (League Two) - 4
91. Aston Villa (Premier League) - 3
=. Dagenham and Redbridge (League Two) - 3

True, but it's not something you want to be near the top of the table for anyway. Judging from that table, we've only conceded 3 home goals this season in the Prem.... the same amount as Chelsea after 9 games in their record-breaking season.

It's the goals scored column where we have been crap

Yeah, the title is like something from Buzzfeed. Click on it thinking we've scored the fewest goals out of all 92 teams in the league, only for it to basically link to a page for people who decide to go to stadia purely based on how many goals are scored there by both teams. Yes, we're dire when it comes to scoring but at home we've got the second best defence in the country. The list on the Daily Mail would lead you to thinking that teams like Everton and Morecambe are doing excellently, but Morecambe are 17th in League Two with 19 goals conceded at home, and Everton are 11th in the Premier League with the worst home defence in the league with 19 goals conceded.

Those sorts of lists don't tell you much other than which stadia has the most games that are goalfests and which don't. Separating the stats like I've done above makes things clearer but also says what we already know anyway. We're one of the worst at scoring at home - but not the worst, we have one of the best defensive records at home and our points are middle ground.

 

[rcoobc]

Outstanding work Damien!

Although we have had some real problems, if we'd won half of the last 7 games (instead of none of them) we'd probably be (undeservedly) top of the league.

Our possession based defensive record was pretty good until recently