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Roman Reigns still manages to stink up the place even after a ridiculous Authority promo :lol:

Did they think keeping him off air for 2 weeks would get him a huge pop on his return?

Poor Neville that will keep him out for a while. Brilliant work from Jericho though he's been great lately, shame he and AJ have already had 3 matches I'm really not bothered about their Wrestkemania booking.
 

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I think it suits them as characters though or what we knew of them as E&C from late 90s. Im a fan of it because its so over the top and light.

Also its funny, its like they are sabotaging Reigns. They have him walk out of the Rumble after a beatdown (not even stretcher out). Then the next guy in is Owens, who had a match earlier on and his limping to the ring like a hero.
Then reigns is eliminated by HHH who plays like hes a face getting revenge.

Then they have him beaten up and out for 2 weeks (I know he had nose surgery but still). But a week later Ambrose gets the same beating but returns on SD a few days later :lol:

Then this week, he waits to return AFTER Triple Hs match. Not during when he could cost him against Dolph but after. ffs. Beatdown was still good though and showed the aggression hes needed and what got him cheered in the first place.
 

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I think it suits them as characters though or what we knew of them as E&C from late 90s. Im a fan of it because its so over the top and light.

Also its funny, its like they are sabotaging Reigns. They have him walk out of the Rumble after a beatdown (not even stretcher out). Then the next guy in is Owens, who had a match earlier on and his limping to the ring like a hero.
Then reigns is eliminated by HHH who plays like hes a face getting revenge.

Then they have him beaten up and out for 2 weeks (I know he had nose surgery but still). But a week later Ambrose gets the same beating but returns on SD a few days later :lol:

Then this week, he waits to return AFTER Triple Hs match. Not during when he could cost him against Dolph but after. ffs. Beatdown was still good though and showed the aggression hes needed and what got him cheered in the first place.
Roman Reigns attacked numerous officials whilst Triple H bravely fought back to recover several times despite being attacked by a much fresher man.

It's not questionable at this point, someone up there (Triple H himself is obviously part of it) really wants Roman to fail. Just as good a question is whether Shane has been brought back to be an exec as a powerplay to go up against Triple H and Steph.

And after all this Triple H is likely to come out at Wrestlemania to a Motorhead song with some kind of homage to the recently departed Lemmy. He's just can't let Roman get cheered in the main event.
 

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And after all this Triple H is likely to come out at Wrestlemania to a Motorhead song with some kind of homage to the recently departed Lemmy. He's just can't let Roman get cheered in the main event.
Oh damn, thats a really great point. Im kinda surprised they didnt induct Lemmy this year into the celeb wing.

But its just madness, unless they are thinking of having Reigns turn heel eg night after Raw which imo would maximise the reaction.
 

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Conspiracy theory, HHH runs NXT, adores the indy darlings, show rocks. Vince, set in his ways, eyes on Reigns. HHH sabotaging Reigns as much as he can so they can move on to the likes of Rollins, Ambrose and the NXT crowd.
 

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Oh damn, thats a really great point. Im kinda surprised they didnt induct Lemmy this year into the celeb wing.

But its just madness, unless they are thinking of having Reigns turn heel eg night after Raw which imo would maximise the reaction.
They already have their cover of Sympathy for The Devil as a theme for the show, not sure they'll get two, but then, it is HHH.
 

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It's not questionable at this point, someone up there (Triple H himself is obviously part of it) really wants Roman to fail. Just as good a question is whether Shane has been brought back to be an exec as a powerplay to go up against Triple H and Steph.
Two different issues.

Vince runs RAW and likes Reigns. Don't see how HHH could sabotage this. It may be that Vince is out of sync with the crowds in pushing Reigns as Cena v2, but it should have been obvious to a tree at this point.

The other issue is that HHH may be promoted from NXT to include SD and make it a distinct brand and this is a neat way to do it. Shane just stepped off from his corporate life and so they are using him to take over RAW (and Vince's interference).
 

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Two different issues.

Vince runs RAW and likes Reigns. Don't see how HHH could sabotage this. It may be that Vince is out of sync with the crowds in pushing Reigns as Cena v2, but it should have been obvious to a tree at this point.

The other issue is that HHH may be promoted from NXT to include SD and make it a distinct brand and this is a neat way to do it. Shane just stepped off from his corporate life and so they are using him to take over RAW (and Vince's interference).
Trips is the second in command, if anyone could sabotage it, it's him. Don't underplay his role with the main shows already. He tries to distance himself from actual booking of them because he wants this flawless NXT image to remain (despite the super obvious problems with NXT). Hell where has he been during the Vince/Steph/Shane promos in recent weeks? It's no coincidence that he isn't there. Nor is it coincidence he keeps doing babyface things in interactions with Roman.

Triple H has shown himself many times to be a very smart man. Don't underestimate him.
 

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Reigns, Ambrose and Ziggler. Who else is left for HHH to try and bury?
That match clearly elevated Ziggler to be fair (giving a prominent role to a man who has been lost in the shuffle for years)... And you could argue that Ambrose is more over now then he was a month ago, or he's at least equal anyway, so don't think you can say he buried either.
 

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That match clearly elevated Ziggler to be fair (giving a prominent role to a man who has been lost in the shuffle for years)... And you could argue that Ambrose is more over now then he was a month ago, or he's at least equal anyway, so don't think you can say he buried either.
Hell, his match at Roadblock was the first time I can remember Ambrose showing his range of in ring skills off instead of just his insanity.
 

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That match clearly elevated Ziggler to be fair (giving a prominent role to a man who has been lost in the shuffle for years)... And you could argue that Ambrose is more over now then he was a month ago, or he's at least equal anyway, so don't think you can say he buried either.
Elevated? He had a good match, that's all.

It did nothing to the storyline or Ziggler's way forward. In fact Ziggler came across as a bit desperate and grasping at straws. He gave his best and came up short, era/age/popularity notwithstanding. I don't think taking a clean loss to HHH in a match of no consequence elevates anyone.

No WM card, no special feuds, nothing....he'll probably make up the numbers in Battle Royal.

And Ambrose is over because of the underdog effect and the prospect of Ambrose vs Reigns is just pure :drool:. HHH is the roadblock here.
 

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Elevated? He had a good match, that's all.

It did nothing to the storyline or Ziggler's way forward. In fact Ziggler came across as a bit desperate and grasping at straws. He gave his best and came up short, era/age/popularity notwithstanding. I don't think taking a clean loss to HHH in a match of no consequence elevates anyone.

No WM card, no special feuds, nothing....he'll probably make up the numbers in Battle Royal.

And Ambrose is over because of the underdog effect and the prospect of Ambrose vs Reigns is just pure :drool:. HHH is the roadblock here.
Aren't you the least bit interested on how Ziggler comes back from this and makes it onto Wrestlemania now? I can't remember the last time I had an even vague interest in what Dolph Ziggler is doing... but now I'm intrigued to see what they do with him next week.
 

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If they follow up with Dolph, then its fine. TBH, it did start last week with his tweet, that got deleted and then the interaction with Steph and Ziggler.

BUt then, Ziggler also beat Authority at Survivor Series a few years back and they just didnt follow up (although im pretty sure it would have been Reigns if he wasnt injured).

Shane's punches are cringeworthy as feck. The whole segment was piss poor.
Agreed, they look so sloppy and have always been sloppy.
 

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Just read that it's Shane vs Taker in a Hell in a Cell at Mania ? WTH ? Surely, that's not right ?! Is there more to it ?
 

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Just read that it's Shane vs Taker in a Hell in a Cell at Mania ? WTH ? Surely, that's not right ?! Is there more to it ?
It's for the European title.
 

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During the HHH/Reigns brawl on raw, when they hit the backstage area did anyone else see HHH accidentally hit that referees leg with the blue trunk? It was fricking hilarious!
 

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So after the confirmation of a few more matches, Mania will be:

Roman Reigns vs. HHH
Shane McMahon vs. Undertaker

Ambrose vs. Lesnar
Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles
Sasha vs. Charlotte vs. Becky
New Day & The Rock (I can dream) vs. League of Nations
Kevin Owens vs. Sami Zayn (vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Miz?)

7 matches on the main card, which is the same as the previous two years.

Hopefully The IC match will just be KO vs. Sami... but I can't see them running with that when there's a couple of guys who need to get on the main card, and I don't think they're going to devote enough time to build a singles feud at that level for Mania properly.

Even if it is a multi-man though, I'm way more interested in the undercard for Mania then the two big matches... though both of those do have a perverse appeal of sorts.

EDIT - Forgot about the Wyatt Family... they'll be in the Battle Royal won't they? Quite a fall from a propsed match against Lesnar...
 

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I'm looking forward to Mania, I've even booked the following day off work. If Ambrose was in the main event it could have been brilliant, the only thing I'm not looking forward too is RR winning the title.