LVG: the inside story

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Very interesting, sounds AVB-esque:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ted-news-dressing-room-meltdown-a7042316.html

Louis van Gaal: The inside story of Manchester United's dressing room meltdown
The Dutchman's heavy-handed style of management led to him losing the confidence of his players and, subsequently, his job, as Mark Ogden reveals

Louis van Gaal’s two-year reign at Manchester United has come to an end after the Dutchman lost the respect of the dressing-room with eccentric management that extended to brutal video dissection of players’ performances, critical emails to squad members and the imposition of ‘straitjacket’ football on the team.

Senior players have also grown exasperated by the ‘special treatment’ afforded to German midfielder Bastian Schweinsteiger, who has made just four appearances since suffering a knee injury against Sheffield United in the FA Cup in January.

Van Gaal, who led United to the FA Cup glory with Saturday’s 2-1 Wembley victory against Crystal Palace, is set to be replaced by Jose Mourinho at Old Trafford after failing to secure Champions League qualification this season.


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But The Independent has been made aware that such has been the breakdown of the relationship between Van Gaal and his players this season, the 64-year-old is unlikely to have survived in charge for the final year of his three-year contract – even if a top four finish had been achieved.

From the first week of Van Gaal’s spell in charge, when he succeeded the sacked David Moyes after guiding Holland to the semi-finals of the 2014 World Cup, United’s senior players have struggled to adapt to the rigid demands imposed by the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach.

Having inherited United’s summer tour of the United States from Moyes, Van Gaal was so angered by the arrangements in place – the Beverly Hills location of the team’s Los Angeles hotel in relation to the training camp and venue for the game against LA Galaxy – that a budget Holiday Inn was hired for the players to sleep close to the training ground in between morning and afternoon sessions.

One source close to the players claims that Van Gaal’s strict regime of ‘training at 8.30, sent to rooms for a couple hours rest, training after lunch, back for video meetings and tactics discussion, back to rooms, supper of toast and then bed at half ten - every day for 14 days’ left the squad shattered and ill-prepared for the start of the 2014-15 season, which saw United endure their worst opening to a campaign for 25 years.

But it has been Van Gaal’s refusal to alter his heavy-handed management style, honed at Ajax in the mid-1990s,that has led to his inability to foster unity behind his methods.

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Under Moyes and Sir Alex Ferguson, the first-team would regularly be given a day off on a Monday following a Sunday game, but Van Gaal has insisted on his players reporting for training on Mondays, when they would sit through a video replay of the previous game.

But such was the critical nature of the analysis – ‘he would crucify players in front of each other,’ according to one source – that captain Wayne Rooney and vice-captain Michael Carrick sought out Van Gaal to urge the manager to soften his approach in order to avoid breaking the confidence of his players.

Van Gaal accepted the advice and acted upon it by instead sending emails to players with clips and notes attached.

The majority of the players would not open the emails, however, knowing that inside lay a raft of criticisms, prompting a tracker to be attached to reveal when the emails had been opened.


The alleged 'special treatment' of Schweinsteiger has exasperated other squad members (Getty)
The players have since begun to open the files on their phones, ignoring the contents, but ensuring that the email shows up as having been read.

Van Gaal’s prescriptive approach to the game has also alienated his players, with one senior figure confirming the manager’s instruction, as revealed in The Independent in February, not to shoot at goal with their first touch.

Players regard Van Gaal’s football as too slow and methodical – ‘they are not allowed to think for themselves’ insisted one source close to the players – and the strikers have grown exasperated by seeing so little of the ball.

When Rooney was dropped for the game at Stoke City on Boxing Day, the United and England captain accepted his demotion, but only after making it clear to Van Gaal that he wanted to play his natural game when he returned to the team having lost his place after following the manager’s instructions on how to play.

Van Gaal, who has earned admiration in the boardroom for promoting youngsters such as Marcus Rashford, Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, Timothy Fosu-Mensah and FA Cup matchwinner Jesse Lingard, is also regarded within the dressing-room as having failed to control a group of different personalities.

Van Gaal is blamed by some players for allowing Schweinsteiger to ‘take the piss’ since his injury, with the former Bayern Munich midfielder’s regular absence from the club in between games becoming a source of annoyance to many.

And Memphis Depay, the £25m summer signing who was dropped from the FA Cup final squad, is regarded as being allowed to waste his talent due to Van Gaal’s mis-management.


Depay arriving for training last December in his Rolls-Royce (Getty)
The Dutch winger was dropped to the reserves after making a mistake in the draw with Chelsea in February, but then surprised many at the club by turning up at the second string game in a Rolls-Royce.

Despite being urged to leave the car at home by senior team-mate, who warned of the negative message it would send to supporters by projecting such an ostentatious image of wealth while the team were struggling, Depay nonetheless continued to drive the same car into training.

And while Rashford is regarded as a huge positive of Van Gaal’s spell in charge, with the 18-year-old viewed as a grounded character and a ‘good kid,’ the story of one player asking the club chef to cook him two hard-boiled eggs to take home as he did not know how to boil them himself underlines the sense within the squad that too much is now done for the younger element of the team.

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If Van Gaal’s departure is followed by that of Ryan Giggs, there will be sadness at the loss of the Welshman, however, who has the backing of many senior players to become the club’s manager.

Giggs has impressed the squad with his coaching and his tactical analysis of opponents – the specific job he has been assigned by Van Gaal.

There is a belief within the squad that Giggs has kept his own counsel on Van Gaal’s approach in order not to rock the boat, but he retains the respect and admiration of the players, many of whom feel that a major rebuilding job is required to make the team competitive again.

But that task will fall to Mourinho rather than Van Gaal and, after two years of attempting to grasp the Dutchman’s philosophy, the vast majority of the squad he leaves behind will not mourn his departure.
 

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So several papers with the same "inside info".

Sounds like someone at the club has been talking again.
 

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So several papers with the same "inside info".

Sounds like someone at the club has been talking again.
Probably one of the English contingent. Makes sense really - LVG is gone, don't see any wrong with this sort of stuff coming out now. It's cathartic.
 

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What did they want Memphis to do? Ride his bike to the game? What the heck has the boiled egg go to do with anything? Why does matter if Schweinsteiger is recovering in Germany? Nice to Giggs absolved of any blame though, fills me with confidence that does.
 

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There are some snakes in our squad that need to be sold as soon as possible, probably even played shite 90% of the time and opening their mouth like that.

The same ones have now reservations about Mourinho
 

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At least the under-performing twats didn't blame a lack of chips this time.
 

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What did they want Memphis to do? Ride his bike to the game? What the heck has the boiled egg go to do with anything? Why does matter if Schweinsteiger is recovering in Germany? Nice to Giggs absolved of any blame though, fills me with confidence that does.
Players wanting Giggs to takeover suggests they want an easy ride.
 

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All of the main paper are running with similar stories. They must have been fed the info.

My god was LVG stubborn! I will never feel sorry for him.
 

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Not surprised to hear any of it, but I'm sure someone will still say he's laid foundations :wenger:
 

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The problem with this is club is its veteran players and their self-interest, not yes-man Moyes or his polar opposite, the bombastic authoritarian van Gaal.
 

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Perhaps, but it highlights why he failed.

Seems more like an attempt to get Giggsy the job than anything else. Note how all the articles mention that "senior figures" prefer Giggs over Mourinho and all of them project him in a positive light.
 

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That's an excellent read.
Though, it is now history.
I want to think about positive things and what we can achieve with Mourinho.
I have been so negative in the last few months, it's been soul destroying and I want to get out of that mind-set.
 

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Note how all the articles mention that "senior figures" prefer Giggs over Mourinho ...
At the time that Moyes was hired, those senior figures had a big part to play in the decision making of managerial appointments.
Since then, those senior figures seem to have no relevance. I think Woodward and the Glazers aim to get the most qualified person for the role...which is exactly how it should be.
 

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What did they want Memphis to do? Ride his bike to the game? What the heck has the boiled egg go to do with anything? Why does matter if Schweinsteiger is recovering in Germany? Nice to Giggs absolved of any blame though, fills me with confidence that does.
He shouldve gone and bought a second hand Fiat like the rest of the reserves.
 

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Players wanting Giggs to takeover suggests they want an easy ride.
The senior players that have sent these articles to print have done exceptionally well in that reports intended to criticise the outgoing manager has managed to reflect just as poorly on them as it does Van Gaal.
 

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Seems more like an attempt to get Giggsy the job than anything else. Note how all the articles mention that "senior figures" prefer Giggs over Mourinho and all of them project him in a positive light.
They want the easy life and place-security. Any reasonably-knowledgeable football fan knew what LVG's approach was likely to be; why didn't these professionals know what to expect? Or was their reaction just the usual one from our senior staff: "I don't like change, being judged on merit, or hard work"?
 

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Now I've read the same exact story thrice from the Independent (Mark Ogden), Telegraph (Daniel Taylor and Paul Hayward), hard boiled eggs, e-mails, Schweinsteiger, Memphis etc. You gotta wonder who's leaking the news so well.
 

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Probably thinking too much into it. I'm probably being too cynical too but, I reckon Giggs has a hand in a lot of these leaks.

Every article always has to have something in it, about him being this great coach, who impresses everyone with his methods and that everyone wants him as manager. Every. Single. One.
"Ah yeah, the players hated LvG and his staff but, they loved Ryan. Even though he kept quiet during his tenure, he just didn't want to rock the boat" That doesn't sound like someone who the players want as manager to me

This whole situation has turned into a bit of a circus tbh. What's even more laughable is that it could have been handled easier, classier and earlier than this
 

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Whoever wrote this just CC'd every journalist in Britain into their email didn't they..
 

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I'm disgusted at this blatantly obvious, by-now standard technique employed by senior staff for deflecting from their poor performances. There's been a culture of complacency at United since SAF's last years and that, believe me, is not the fault of our younger players.
 

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These are very similar in tone to what came out after Moyes's sacking.

On that basis I'm guessing it's Carrick, Young or Giggs.

Both managers failed in their own ways but their cause can't have been helped by the type of egos who leak this kind of self-serving crap. The stuff about the young players and Schweini is truly pathetic.

I hope whoever is responsible is gone from the club asap or I see the same problems with Mourinho happening.
 

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Wayne "Oh fine drop me but, I'm going to play my own way from now on and there is feck all you can do about it" Rooney. :rolleyes:

If any of this is even remotely true, Mourinho needs to bin the majority. Players not fancying playing, Rooney thinking he's above the manager and coaches, the club insisting the players drive around in mini cars for corporate sponsors the day after a defeat.....Shameful stuff
 

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I'm disgusted at this blatantly obvious, by-now standard technique employed by senior staff for deflecting from their poor performances. There's been a culture of complacency at United since SAF's last years and that, believe me, is not the fault of our younger players.
You only have to read this place to know why they do it. It gets lapped up again and again and again.
 

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@.Rossi The paragraph making clear that the players still have the utmost respect for Giggs did immediately make me thing Giggs had written it. Probably unfair though. :lol:
 

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@.Rossi The paragraph making clear that the players still have the utmost respect for Giggs did immediately make me thing Giggs had written it. Probably unfair though. :lol:
I have no doubts about it. Every article, be it good or bad, about LvG, there is a similar piece about Giggs in it. The part about him staying quiet, not wanting to rock the boat but, the players still want him and respect him etc, that's absurd ffs :D

If I was a player, and I saw the assistant manager like that, I'd be thinking, "you're a fecking sheep."
 

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Wonder which player improved after telling Van Gaal he was going to play his own game? Also wonder why he wasn't immediately dropped when he did so.
 

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Probably thinking too much into it. I'm probably being too cynical too but, I reckon Giggs has a hand in a lot of these leaks.

Every article always has to have something in it, about him being this great coach, who impresses everyone with his methods and that everyone wants him as manager. Every. Single. One.
"Ah yeah, the players hated LvG and his staff but, they loved Ryan. Even though he kept quiet during his tenure, he just didn't want to rock the boat" That doesn't sound like someone who the players want as manager to me

This whole situation has turned into a bit of a circus tbh. What's even more laughable is that it could have been handled easier, classier and earlier than this
Sounds about right to me.
 

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That bit about players not being allowed to take shots first time....Martial and Mata both had instances where they did this throughout the season. I'm sure they got chastised for it. And now im certain Rooney's cock up against Spurs in the first game of the season was because of this.

It's a pretty mental instruction.